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keg in kc 06-22-2005 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75
I don't think anybody here has questioned Mitchells ability, it's what's upstairs that was lacking.I hope Gun has it worked out for the Chiefs sake.

Yeah, I don't think there's any question that the best thing that can happen for us is for Mitchell to become a good linebacker. We don't need jobs decided by injury, and we don't need anybody getting a starting nod by attrition the way that Calvin Pickering "beat out" Ken Harvey in Royals spring training. Mitchell needs to come out in a month and prove why it's his job, and then Grigsby and Scanlon both need to play their asses off. Elevate everyone's play at MLB and the team will be that much better.
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I have said it before and will say it again, It's Mitchells job to lose, I don't think Rich can come back from NFLE & grab it away unless Mitchell totally sucks or has an TC injury.Although Rich did get to practice it ( scheme)some last year, it's different than playing 12 games ( like Mitchell ) and having the off season to fine tune the scheme.
I think that's a fair statement. And Mitchell has to find a way to stay healthy this year, that's maybe his biggest hurdle. The whole team does, for that matter. Let's hope the Battle injury is the exception and not the rule this year.

Eleazar 06-22-2005 09:17 PM

Due to all the Scanlon hype I saw on the board, I always took note of him in the NFLE games I saw parts of on TV. I just wasn't that impressed with him. He's a Chief, I hope he's the second coming of Dick Butkus obviously, but I didn't really see anything amazing from him. I don't remember him blowing up running plays behind the line or making fearsome hits or anything.

Mostly he reminded me of Maslowski.. a guy who might be allright with other players around him but is never going to set the world on fire. Remember Maz lead a crappy defense in tackles without ever really being that impressive of a player.

If Scanlon can help us, I'll be the happiest guy in the world, I just don't see it. He seems to be more of an effort guy who plays without the natural instinct or talent you would find in an NFL linebacker. Yeah we've turned projects into great players before a la Waters, Richardson, etc. but I won't hold my breath. Hope I'm wrong, I'd be glad to eat crow if he were to somehow start and put up 100 tackles.

LiL stumppy 06-22-2005 09:34 PM

I think he is alot better then people give him credit for.And another year with Gunther and better LB's can't make him any worse than last year.

buddha 06-22-2005 10:46 PM

I'm with Laz...who cares who ends up playing as long as they are the best we have at that position???

Tribal Warfare 06-23-2005 12:30 AM

Booooooomer! Booooooooomer! Booooooomer!

that is all :D

royr17 06-23-2005 02:37 AM

Well Im glad Gun has finally got the point acrossed to him, but Kawika better watch out, cause Rich will be awaiting in the shadows if he fuks up and be ready to step in and contribute.

He's had too many chances to shine and the time is now to get it together or get out.

Im a chiefs fan so I wanna see every chief succeed on the team even if it is Kawika.

beer bacon 06-23-2005 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by royr17
Well Im glad Gun has finally got the point acrossed to him, but Kawika better watch out, cause Rich will be awaiting in the shadows if he fuks up and be ready to step in and contribute.

He's had too many chances to shine and the time is now to get it together or get out.

Im a chiefs fan so I wanna see every chief succeed on the team even if it is Kawika.

I have been wondering about this for a while, and you seem like a fellow that would have the answer to my question. Is Scanlon Batman?

the Talking Can 06-23-2005 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon
I have been wondering about this for a while, and you seem like a fellow that would have the answer to my question. Is Scanlon Batman?

ROFL

htismaqe 06-23-2005 08:13 AM

Of course, this is all about personal wishes and draft pick politics.

That's why Mike Maslowski is still on the team.

ct 06-23-2005 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc
The biggest comment I've heard when specific 'why' is given to him looking better: he's in place to make plays now, where he's supposed to be because he's (finally) reading plays correctly. He wasn't even close in that regard a year ago, as I recall. I think it's more of a "light coming on upstairs" thing than it is an athletic guy making plays he's always made. We'll see, though, none of it's full speed yet.

And mentioning maz in the same sentence will Bell is kind of weird. Bell is very athletic, not someone who has to overcome physicial deficiencies like mike. I remember some plays when Bell was at his best 2 and 3 years ago, and he could get around the corner in a flash. He's very quick/fast in about a 10-yard range, probably a better initial burst than Johnson, even, he just doesn't have the same top-end speed (but he's not slow), that final gear that Johnson has (not many players do...).

He also looked pretty good on Saturday, along with Fox, Johnson and Mitchell. We had 4 LBs who looked like they could all be all over the field in the fall; I'd never seen anything like that here before. Thinking wistfully of Lew Bush and Marvcus Patton I was not. If that translates into full speed play when the pads are on, it's gonna be a lot of fun to watch. I can't wait to see the preseason.

:clap: :clap:

Well said!!

REP

BigChiefFan 06-23-2005 10:49 AM

Mitchell elevated his game at the end of the year and looked good in practice. I think Gunther can get the most out of Mitchell this year. He's athletic and has the skills necessary to make a contribution. If he can hone in on his leadership skills and the playbook, I expect big things out of Mitchell this year.

StcChief 06-23-2005 12:18 PM

Mitchell/Scanlon/Grigsby pretty decent future IMHO for the position.

Chiefnj 06-23-2005 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe
Of course, this is all about personal wishes and draft pick politics.

That's why Mike Maslowski is still on the team.

Maslowski is still on the team because even with his mutilated knees he's still a better tackler than all of the other MLB's and he can still probably diagnose a play quicker than all of them.

Bob Dole 06-23-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SideWinder
He's probably lost a step since, not only because of the injury, but he's getting older also.

Unlike Gopher, who actually gets younger with each passing day.

Chris Meck 06-23-2005 12:33 PM

I think Mazlowski will make a fine coach one day. Probably sooner than later.

Chris


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