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Saul Good 10-20-2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 8012042)
That Baylor coach Kim Mulkey is 100% correct.

Correct about a marriage, just a gushing vag when it comes to business decisions.

I don't give a shit if we never play again. KU needs the game more than Mizzou. We'll have to expand our stadium because 71,000 seats won't be enough. KU's most valuable game is the Border War at Arrowhead. There will be no compelling matchups on their schedule. Hell, they can't fill a 50,000 seat stadium when Oklahoma comes to town.

DJ's left nut 10-20-2011 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8012247)
Why do MU fans care whether KU fans care or not? If I was an MU fan I wouldn't really give a **** whether KU fan was angry or whether he didn't care.

But maybe I'm just different from other people.

Have you read the thread?

We really don't. Or at least I don't. Just like I don't believe Nebraska fans gave a shit about the rest of the IIX fans when they left.

But I'm really damn tired of listening to KK trying to claim objectivity here and then hide behind that 'objectivity' to cloak himself in credibility and blast the University of Missouri. He's not objective, not at all. And if he'd just admit that when he's launching shot across MU's bow, I wouldn't care. But for him to try to claim to be an objective journalist and then absolutely blister Mizzou to a massive audience is completely unacceptable to me.

(And there he goes again "I have no dog in this race, blah blah blah")

And Wickedson, well he's just a yammering douche and it's appropriate to point out when he's being a yammering douche that can't keep his argument straight.

Saul Good 10-20-2011 01:42 PM

Kietzman keeps talking about $X million per year lost because of the loss of the Big XII tournament. Last time I checked, it wasn't in KC every year to begin with.

eazyb81 10-20-2011 01:43 PM

Amazingly detailed interview with A&M President Loftin on the inner workings of realignment. It is impossible for anyone to come away from reading this and still think Mizzou started this.

A few interesting nuggets:

- Rumors of UT talking to PAC as early as Fall 2009
- UT was ready to bring it and five other Big 12 schools to the PAC
- Larry Scott actively called A&M on his own in April 2010 to sway them to come to the PAC
- Four Big 12 schools refused to say they were committed to the Big 12 in June 2010
- UT did not even tell the PAC they were starting their own network before Larry Scott had draft invitation letters for the schools

http://www.12thmanfoundation.com/mem...d-article.aspx

Los Pollos Hermanos 10-20-2011 01:45 PM

Why do you guys keep listening?

Saul Good 10-20-2011 01:46 PM

I love Kietzman's idea for the tournament in Wichita. Lots to do in that town. That sure beats P&L.

Pants 10-20-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8012315)
Have you read the thread?

KK is a troll, who cares what he says? LOL

And yeah, I've read the thread, I see you and a bunch of other MU fans trying to prove how much the KU fans care about MU leaving (be it jealousy or bitterness or what have you).

DJ's left nut 10-20-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8012330)
Kietzman keeps talking about $X million per year lost because of the loss of the Big XII tournament. Last time I checked, it wasn't in KC every year to begin with.

$20 million/yr.

He is ignoring the massive amount of revenue that will come from the loads of SEC fans hauling themselves to Columbia off-setting part of that.

More critically, he's just ignoring economic reality. The economics of one-shot athletic events are notoriously sketchy. He's claiming that the $20 million that doesn't go into Missouri because of the loss of the IIX tournament will now be gone from Missouri altogether. He just completely ignores that sporting events are fungible luxury goods. Most of the people that would have come to that event were local (as he admitted when he said that 1/2 the crowd was an MU crowd that now won't come). Those same people will simply reallocate their entertainment dollars to the Royals or Chiefs, etc...

The panic over these kinds of losses has proven to be unfounded in the past by numerous economic studies. Most places that have lost events like this have felt it to some degree, but ultimately it's been off-set through other businesses. It may impact an individual business here and there, but the impact it will have on Kansas City is nominal (and the impact it has on Missouri is simply non-existent).

It's just Kietzman trying to drum up more irritability in the area. Grind grind grind that axe, Kevin.

Saul Good 10-20-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 8012368)
Why do you guys keep listening?

His tears taste like candy.

mikeyis4dcats. 10-20-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8012248)
Correct about a marriage, just a gushing vag when it comes to business decisions.

I don't give a shit if we never play again. KU needs the game more than Mizzou. We'll have to expand our stadium because 71,000 seats won't be enough. KU's most valuable game is the Border War at Arrowhead. There will be no compelling matchups on their schedule. Hell, they can't fill a 50,000 seat stadium when Oklahoma comes to town.

how are tickets selling for Saturday?

Pants 10-20-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8012401)
$20 million/yr.

He is ignoring the massive amount of revenue that will come from the loads of SEC fans hauling themselves to Columbia off-setting part of that.

More critically, he's just ignoring economic reality. The economics of one-shot athletic events are notoriously sketchy. He's claiming that the $20 million that doesn't go into Missouri because of the loss of the IIX tournament will now be gone from Missouri altogether. He just completely ignores that sporting events are fungible luxury goods. Most of the people that would have come to that event were local (as he admitted when he said that 1/2 the crowd was an MU crowd that now won't come). Those same people will simply reallocate their entertainment dollars to the Royals or Chiefs, etc...

The panic over these kinds of losses has proven to be unfounded in the past by numerous economic studies. Most places that have lost events like this have felt it to some degree, but ultimately it's been off-set through other businesses. It may impact an individual business here and there, but the impact it will have on Kansas City is nominal (and the impact it has on Missouri is simply non-existent).

It's just Kietzman trying to drum up more irritability in the area. Grind grind grind that axe, Kevin.

Dude, it's not a question in anyone's mind (the rational ones, anyway) that it's a good move for MU at this point.

There's really no reason for you to justify the move to rival fans to begin with.

eazyb81 10-20-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 8012405)
how are tickets selling for Saturday?

Expecting close to 70,000. When's the last time that many came to watch the fightin snyders?

DJ's left nut 10-20-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants (Post 8012397)
KK is a troll, who cares what he says? LOL

And yeah, I've read the thread, I see you and a bunch of other MU fans trying to prove how much the KU fans care about MU leaving (be it jealousy or bitterness or what have you).

Present it.

Where have I tried to 'prove' anything, except in response to you fellas making sure to take a shot at Mizzou?

I'm going to continue to defend Mizzou and their decision. And yeah, when you guys can't present a reasoned argument in response to anything, I'm going to point out that your carping comes from little more than sour grapes.

Saul Good 10-20-2011 01:52 PM

I did a little digging, and it turns out that The University of Missouri was not established with the expressed purpose of enriching bar owners in Kansas City. I found that interesting.

eazyb81 10-20-2011 01:54 PM

I heard Mizzou going to the SEC caused the housing market to plummet.


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