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They don't have much of it.

They basically have James Loney and Evan Longoria, and I doubt the Rays get rid of Longoria anytime soon. Loney is a first basemen who hits for average, but not much power if I am correct.

The real trade target for teams from the Rays is David Price. Price doesn't look to be himself this year, 3.97 ERA. From an article I just read on MLBTR, it looks like the Rays want nothing less than 3 top prospects for Price. From that same article it mentions that Price's velocity is down and that there is no guarantee he resigns with the team he is traded to after the season is over. Highly doubt the Rays are going to get what they want for David Price.

C3HIEF3S

06-11-2014 10:16 PM

I mean hell, the Rays just ended a 31 inning scoreless streak today.

BigCatDaddy

06-11-2014 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10685707)

I mean hell, the Rays just ended a 31 inning scoreless streak today.

What about bringing Dejesus back home? He seems like he'd be a nice piece to get some at bats at RF or DH? Both places we are under performing at.

Prison Bitch

06-11-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10685472)

If your theory is that Chisenhall has been better handled than Moustakas, I might agree with you.

Moustakas should have been demoted sometime in May, around the time Francoeur was cut loose. You were calling for it 3 weeks into the season, which I still think was too early to make that move. But when it got well into May and his two week surge collapsed into pathetic performance, yes, I think it would have done him some good to be demoted for a while to work through things.

But if you look at what the Indians got from their 3B spot when Chisenhall was down (from Aviles and Reynolds), it's actually worse performance than Chisenhall was giving. So it actually did not help the team to demote him LAST year.

We keep grousing (fairly I might add) about player development and its exhausting watching guys who are universally loved by scouts flop up in KC. My theory is DM is too patient and lax with young players but that's just my theory. I'm looking for other ideas.

Watching Chisenhall blow by Moose is nauseating to me. In my 2011 BBAmerica handbook all three guys (Callis, Lingo, Manuel) had Moose higher. Lingo had hm #3 overall. Behind Harper and Trout. Moose had 20HR as a 23 year old his first full season then shit the bed. We have a problem whatever it is

tk13	06-11-2014 10:27 PM

Yeah the Rays are in deep. At this point they're going to have to go 65-30 or something like that to even have a shot.

There are only 5 teams in the AL with a positive run differential. The A's are +124 and the next best team is +37. Detroit's one of the five and they're only +2.

Prison Bitch

06-11-2014 10:37 PM

Infante now has a 68 OPS+. Getz was 55. Infante has a 0.0 bWAR while Getz was at 0.2. Infante has 178ab and we only gave Getz 209 before we cast him down to Hades.

Infante has been a massive turd and I can't imagine what he'll be in years 3+4 of that bad contract.

BigCatDaddy

06-11-2014 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10685752)

I wonder how much that shot to the face really ****ed him up mentally at the plate. It seemed like he was putting up good numbers until then.

duncan_idaho

06-12-2014 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10685720)

Agree that some of the issues with player development involve coddling the players too much and being too lax with them. Promotions come fairly easily.

Moustakas probably didn't REALLY earn his way out of Wilmington after his 2009 season there, but he then followed that up by hitting 36 bombs and posting a .999 OPS over AA and AAA the next year.

The coddling issues with him didn't really start until he was in the big leagues.

Hosmer is kind of the same story, although they had him repeat Wilmington after a disastrous debut there and he went off on that league.

duncan_idaho

06-12-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10685771)

I wonder how much that shot to the face really ****ed him up mentally at the plate. It seemed like he was putting up good numbers until then.

He was .270/.325/.392 at the time of the injury.

He is .160/.185/.213 since returning.

Clearly is not 100 percent. But, since Moustakas and Hosmer have been so bad, they really had little choice but to bring him back. He isn't this bad, but it's time to drop him in the lineup if he doesn't get hot soon.

AndChiefs

06-12-2014 07:26 AM

I know a lot of you don't care about fantasy but I thought this trade offer I just got was hilarious.

Trevor Plouffe/Drew Hutchison for Michael Wacha. Keep in mind, this is also a keeper league so it's not even just Wacha's services this year.

duncan_idaho

06-12-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AndChiefs (Post 10685983)

That sounds worthy of an even more ridiculous return offer.

AndChiefs

06-12-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10685997)

That sounds worthy of an even more ridiculous return offer.

Shane Victorino/Tony Cingrani for Jose Bautista?

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