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Dante84 03-18-2022 03:04 PM

Gunslingiest says we're chasing Ingram / Zadarious

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feeling better? They’re on these DL - both edge and interior. They want to add one before the draft.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504917032952864768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zadarius, Ingram are top options right now</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504917878272929800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Titty Meat 03-18-2022 03:06 PM

Smith AND Ingram or is it Smith or Ingram?

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16200037)
Smith AND Ingram or is it Smith or Ingram?

I think it's Smith OR Ingram. That's the way I read it.

Iconic 03-18-2022 03:08 PM

so far veach has attacked free agency like an absolute killer. just really good precision and efficiency in getting the right guys and things done.

we are slowly setting up to avoid an ugly reach in the draft.

OnTheWarpath15 03-18-2022 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16199957)
Didn't overpay, Didn't commit longterm and addressed a need and yet people still bitch LMAO

Honestly, if you're going to do this, I'd rather they commit to 2-3 years with some outs to protect yourself instead of just one.

If he does what you're hoping he does, then his rate goes up 50%+ and you're bidding against other teams, while also trying to pay Tyreek.

Ultimately, here's what I like - dude catches the balls thrown to him, plays physical and (hopefully) can take some attention away from 10/87.

What I don't - (and likely why he was only given 1 year) who the **** are we actually getting? Dude's career has been all over the place statistically - and you can't blame Ben when the other WR's there have produced.

I'm sure the usual suspects will try to twist this all up - but whatever. He's a warm body at a position of desperate need. If he plays like 2018 JJSS, he'll be a fan favorite but it's going to be a challenge to retain him. If he doesn't, we're only out $10M. Just a weird spot.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-18-2022 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16200021)
Gunslingiest says we're chasing Ingram / Zadarious

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Feeling better? They’re on these DL - both edge and interior. They want to add one before the draft.</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504917032952864768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Zadarius, Ingram are top options right now</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504917878272929800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did he say when were signing Metcalf? Any day now right

Titty Meat 03-18-2022 03:11 PM

Really want Dunlap for a year dude is pretty damn consistent

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16200050)
Honestly, if you're going to do this, I'd rather they commit to 2-3 years with some outs to protect yourself instead of just one.

If he does what you're hoping he does, then his rate goes up 50%+ and you're bidding against other teams, while also trying to pay Tyreek.

Ultimately, here's what I like - dude catches the balls thrown to him, plays physical and (hopefully) can take some attention away from 10/87.

What I don't - (and likely why he was only given 1 year) who the **** are we actually getting? Dude's career has been all over the place statistically - and you can't blame Ben when the other WR's there have produced.

I'm sure the usual suspects will try to twist this all up - but whatever. He's a warm body at a position of desperate need. If he plays like 2018 JJSS, he'll be a fan favorite but it's going to be a challenge to retain him. If he doesn't, we're only out $10M. Just a weird spot.

Honestly....Hill is probably getting his new contract. Don't know what the cost but I'd say the odds of him getting one are probably good.

What this does is allow us to draft a WR and not expect him to step in day one and light up the NFL. Juju is gone after this season and we replace him with the rookie. I would expect Hardman to be gone as well.

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16200057)
Really want Dunlap for a year dude is pretty damn consistent

I'd be okay with that.

smithandrew051 03-18-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16200057)
Really want Dunlap for a year dude is pretty damn consistent

I agree. You could pencil him in for 6-9 sacks

Dante84 03-18-2022 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16200051)
Did he say when were signing Metcalf? Any day now right

uh, i think you got your guys mixed up

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16200067)
I agree. You could pencil him in for 6-9 sacks

Tape him together with Frank Clark and we have our 12 sack guy!

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-18-2022 03:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Corvette Corvette&quot; It was all part of the plan! <a href="https://t.co/9L2snrpCc7">pic.twitter.com/9L2snrpCc7</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jones (@StoneColdJones) <a href="https://twitter.com/StoneColdJones/status/1504922791992340487?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:15 PM

Never change, KC Star.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL writer doesn’t think it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs could ponder trading Tyreek Hill. <a href="https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle">https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle</a></p>&mdash; Sports Daily KC (@SportsDailyKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsDailyKC/status/1504866226350301190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 03-18-2022 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200071)
Tape him together with Frank Clark and we have our 12 sack guy!

Maybe the refs will let us play 12 players on defense to compensate for Clark’s pay!

OnTheWarpath15 03-18-2022 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200059)
Honestly....Hill is probably getting his new contract. Don't know what the cost but I'd say the odds of him getting one are probably good.

What this does is allow us to draft a WR and not expect him to step in day one and light up the NFL. Juju is gone after this season and we replace him with the rookie. I would expect Hardman to be gone as well.

Part of the reason I think 1 year is a mistake - man, Kelce can't play forever. I'm not saying they should have signed JJSS to a 6 year deal, but if you believe in the dude, control his rights for 2-3 years.

This team seriously needs to start transitioning from a TE-centric offense to a WR-centric offense, IMO. WR's typically take 3 years to break out, especially those drafted where we're picking in rounds.

We weren't drafting in a position to acquire a day-one WR starter anyway - JJSS doesn't change that.

FloridaMan88 03-18-2022 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200076)
Never change, KC Star.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL writer doesn’t think it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs could ponder trading Tyreek Hill. <a href="https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle">https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle</a></p>&mdash; Sports Daily KC (@SportsDailyKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsDailyKC/status/1504866226350301190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The KC Star pimping Jeff Chadiha in a collaboration of epic click bait whores.

UChieffyBugger 03-18-2022 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16199299)
And your point is?

He’s a broke dick whose only available to play on average in like 10 games a season because he is constantly injured.

Also pretty sure the Chiefs don’t have a Myles Garrett-caliber pass rusher whose presence and command of constant multiple blockers helped inflate Clowney’s sack #’s.

What a load if garbage ROFL the man got more sacks than Clark and Ingram COMBINED and this fool is calling him a "broke dick"?? Smh you're clueless :harumph:

The Franchise 03-18-2022 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16200088)
Part of the reason I think 1 year is a mistake - man, Kelce can't play forever. I'm not saying they should have signed JJSS to a 6 year deal, but if you believe in the dude, control his rights for 2-3 years.

This team seriously needs to start transitioning from a TE-centric offense to a WR-centric offense, IMO. WR's typically take 3 years to break out, especially those drafted where we're picking in rounds.

We weren't drafting in a position to acquire a day-one WR starter anyway - JJSS doesn't change that.

Juju might just want a one year deal. He wasn’t able to prove himself his last year.

Iconic 03-18-2022 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200126)
Juju might just want a one year deal. He wasn’t able to prove himself his last year.

This is where I'm at. Everyone is pissed Veach didn't get something longer done but I'd say odds are high JuJu wasn't even interested in one. He came here because he knew it was his best shot of getting the stats needed to get a REAL payday.

staylor26 03-18-2022 03:38 PM

JuJu is a guy that never got that big 2nd contract, so of course he’s going to sign 1 year prove it deals while he’s still young. He’s betting on himself.

Chief3188 03-18-2022 03:48 PM

With Juju and Mecole in a contract year I hope they give us some good play.

The Franchise 03-18-2022 04:04 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>&#39; deal for WR JuJu Smith-Schuster comes in around $3 million on the base value with the rest of the $10.75 million max value <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> reported coming in the form of incentives, sources say.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1504940830297145346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Balto 03-18-2022 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200247)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>&#39; deal for WR JuJu Smith-Schuster comes in around $3 million on the base value with the rest of the $10.75 million max value <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> reported coming in the form of incentives, sources say.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1504940830297145346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OHHHH even better!!!

scho63 03-18-2022 04:09 PM

What good D players are left that could benefit KC ?

staylor26 03-18-2022 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200247)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>&#39; deal for WR JuJu Smith-Schuster comes in around $3 million on the base value with the rest of the $10.75 million max value <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RapSheet</a> reported coming in the form of incentives, sources say.</p>&mdash; Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1504940830297145346?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What’s not to like about this move?

Dunerdr 03-18-2022 04:33 PM

Damn I would like to see jjss here longer but you can’t not like that deal.

scho63 03-18-2022 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16200290)
What’s not to like about this move?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16200357)
Damn I would like to see jjss here longer but you can’t not like that deal.

Agree, yet some reruns are bitching like Santa gave them a lump of coal on Xmas.

ILChief 03-18-2022 05:16 PM

I’m surprised Matthieu hasn’t signed anywhere. I thought he’d go quick

Red Dawg 03-18-2022 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 16200486)
I’m surprised Matthieu hasn’t signed anywhere. I thought he’d go quick

He must want too much money.

Dunerdr 03-18-2022 05:53 PM

BRAD PEACH NAILS THE OFF-SEASON WE WIN THE WEST FOR SURE

Dante84 03-18-2022 06:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just so you all know La’el isn’t happening</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504976207426773000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BossChief 03-18-2022 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 16200486)
I’m surprised Matthieu hasn’t signed anywhere. I thought he’d go quick

I still think there’s a chance he comes back to KC on a 1 year deal.

Veach never made an offer, but he did talk with Tyranns agent at the combine and that’s when tweets happened saying Tyrann would hit FA. I’d be willing to bet the number Veach had in his head for Tyrann at that time is similar to the amount of interest he’s gotten elsewhere.

I’d be happy with him back on a 1-2 year deal for 5-7m base and a lot of incentives.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-18-2022 06:28 PM

Anyone read Drew Lock's statement after being traded to SEA? 'Best fans and loudest stadium in the NFL' he wrote. C'mon man...

Titty Meat 03-18-2022 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16200647)
I still think there’s a chance he comes back to KC on a 1 year deal.

Veach never made an offer, but he did talk with Tyranns agent at the combine and that’s when tweets happened saying Tyrann would hit FA. I’d be willing to bet the number Veach had in his head for Tyrann at that time is similar to the amount of interest he’s gotten elsewhere.

I’d be happy with him back on a 1-2 year deal for 5-7m base and a lot of incentives.

That would be a disaster

kgrund 03-18-2022 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16200651)
That would be a disaster

Agree

The Franchise 03-18-2022 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16200641)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just so you all know La’el isn’t happening</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1504976207426773000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Well yeah….obviously.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-18-2022 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200076)
Never change, KC Star.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL writer doesn’t think it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs could ponder trading Tyreek Hill. <a href="https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle">https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle</a></p>&mdash; Sports Daily KC (@SportsDailyKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsDailyKC/status/1504866226350301190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:Lin:

Red Dawg 03-18-2022 06:42 PM

Trade Hill? Why would we do that? We couldn't draft or get back another better than him just cheaper.

BossChief 03-18-2022 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16200076)
Never change, KC Star.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL writer doesn’t think it’s a stretch to think the Chiefs could ponder trading Tyreek Hill. <a href="https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle">https://t.co/PtKVjX4Mle</a></p>&mdash; Sports Daily KC (@SportsDailyKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsDailyKC/status/1504866226350301190?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It’s almost like CP was talking about this the night before the Star runs with it.

Coogs 03-18-2022 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16198588)
It was probably that fossil Gil Brandt who hasn’t said anything intelligent, insightful or accurate in 20 years.

Jim Miller and Pat Kerwin do Moving the Chains.

Coogs 03-18-2022 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16198598)
What the hell would weight have anything to do with it? You just need good backs. Jamaal Charles was 210 on his fattest day and if you gave him the defenses the chiefs are seeing today, he would average 7 yards a carry. And I'm only barely exaggerating.

No one is going to care about CEH when even if you give up the best blocking and biggest lane ever, he'll only "rip" off a 15 yard run.

Because defenses are being built smaller and quicker to defend the fast, explosive teams. Those smaller defenders are making business decisions after being punished by the bigger backs. And they had some stats to back up the discussion.

poolboy 03-18-2022 07:12 PM

Browns giving up 3 first round picks for Watson? bizarro world

Coogs 03-18-2022 07:12 PM

https://www.nfl.com/stats/player-sta...hingyards/desc

7 of the top 9 are 220+

ThyKingdomCome15 03-18-2022 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16200683)
Trade Hill? Why would we do that? We couldn't draft or get back another better than him just cheaper.

Because the Star hates him. Always has and always will.

Iconic 03-18-2022 07:26 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cowboys?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cowboys</a> signing pass rusher Dante Fowler, per <a href="https://twitter.com/toddarcher?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@toddarcher</a></p>&mdash; JPA Football  (@jpafootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/jpafootball/status/1504968468948570128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

and they kept armstrong... **** you cowgirls

irafreak 03-18-2022 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16200650)
Anyone read Drew Lock's statement after being traded to SEA? 'Best fans and loudest stadium in the NFL' he wrote. C'mon man...

The grapes are sour with this one

The Franchise 03-18-2022 08:18 PM

Bears signed DE Al-Quadin Muhammad, formerly of the Colts, to a two-year, $10 million contract.

Muhammad, 27 later this month, heads to Chicago to reunite with ex-DC and new coach Matt Eberflus. The former sixth-round pick started all 17 games for the Colts last season, playing a career-high 73% of the snaps, and registered a career-best six sacks. Muhammad will help replace Khalil Mack off the edge for the Bears.

Iconic 03-18-2022 08:23 PM

****. feels like the 2nd wave is starting on DEs

-King- 03-18-2022 08:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Davante Adams’ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> Contract<br>(h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a>)<br>- 5 yrs, $140M<br>- $22.75M guaranteed at sign<br>- $42.9M more in 2023<br>- 3 yrs, $67.5M practical<br><br>Cap Hits<br>2022: $8.2M<br>2023: $30.4M<br>2024: $21.3M<br>2025: $40M<br>2026: $40M<br><br>51% of this is fluff<br><br>Full Breakdown: <a href="https://t.co/gPhvwIBkNU">https://t.co/gPhvwIBkNU</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1504984655682019334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not bad at all when you remove the fluff. These will be numbers Veach and Tyreek agent negotiate around.

TEX 03-18-2022 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16200746)
Browns giving up 3 first round picks for Watson? bizarro world

They still have plenty of picks and got to keep all of their young talent. I'd have done it too. It's the salary that's bizzaro to me.

FloridaMan88 03-18-2022 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 16200746)
Browns giving up 3 first round picks for Watson? bizarro world

Maybe they’ll get a first rounder back by trading Baker?

KChiefs1 03-18-2022 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16200927)
Maybe they’ll get a first rounder back by trading Baker?


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duncan_idaho 03-18-2022 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16200918)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Davante Adams’ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> Contract<br>(h/t <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ProFootballTalk</a>)<br>- 5 yrs, $140M<br>- $22.75M guaranteed at sign<br>- $42.9M more in 2023<br>- 3 yrs, $67.5M practical<br><br>Cap Hits<br>2022: $8.2M<br>2023: $30.4M<br>2024: $21.3M<br>2025: $40M<br>2026: $40M<br><br>51% of this is fluff<br><br>Full Breakdown: <a href="https://t.co/gPhvwIBkNU">https://t.co/gPhvwIBkNU</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1504984655682019334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Not bad at all when you remove the fluff. These will be numbers Veach and Tyreek agent negotiate around.

Well, that is relieving. Makes negotiations with Hill much more reasonable and keeps them in line with what reasonable territory sounded like before the contract was announced.

BryanBusby 03-19-2022 07:33 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sources: Free agent safety Tyrann Mathieu expected to sign with the Panthers today. The move pairs Matheiu with recently acquired Xavier Woods on the back end, allowing Jeremy Chinn to move down and play in the box.</p>&mdash; Todd Hampton (@ToddHamptonIII) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToddHamptonIII/status/1504902180121239559?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like the tweet was from yesterday, so we'll see

Dante84 03-19-2022 07:37 AM

That dude is getting toasted in the replies, I guess Carolina fans don’t buy it.

This is from yesterday so they are calling BS:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Panthers are not signing Tyrann Mathieu, per source. Team feels like it has its safeties in Jeremy Chinn and just-acquired Xavier Woods.</p>&mdash; Joe Person (@josephperson) <a href="https://twitter.com/josephperson/status/1504940995984736260?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 18, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BryanBusby 03-19-2022 07:47 AM

Oh well then nevermind!

Dante84 03-19-2022 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 16201232)
Oh well then nevermind!

Would def prefer him in the NFC though!

For some reason I feel like he will end up in our division…

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:01 AM

ESPN's Todd McShay Mock 3/19/22

30. Kansas City Chiefs
Daxton Hill, S, Michigan

Kansas City allowed 5.9 yards per play in 2021 (30th) and 7.3 yards per pass attempt (24th), and safety Tyrann Mathieu is a free agent. Pass rush, wide receiver and offensive line are all units that could use another contributor, but this one just made too much sense. Hill is a fast riser after a great combine showing (4.38-second 40-yard dash), and he's a rangy defensive back with versatility. He has the free safety traits to match slot receivers in man coverage and the physicality to support the run like a strong safety. Hill would help contain the vertical passing games of division-mates Justin Herbert and Russell Wilson.

Also noteworthy he has ATL trading back into the 1st ahead of us with MIA...

MOCK TRADE: Atlanta jumps for another first-round pick
With four picks left in Round 1, only two quarterbacks have been selected. That means teams could be eyeing a move to grab one and secure the fifth-year option as they develop him. The Falcons -- who drafted receiver Drake London earlier -- take the leap here, sending one of their second-rounders (No. 43), a third-rounder and a fifth-rounder to the Dolphins for the No. 29 slot. Miami, which originally acquired this pick from the 49ers as part of last year's trade involving San Francisco's eventual selection of Trey Lance, can still find offensive line help early in the second round. Look for the Dolphins to consider Central Michigan's Bernhard Raimann or Washington State's Abraham Lucas on Day 2. As for Atlanta ...


29. Atlanta Falcons (via mock trade with MIA/SF)
Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

Quarterback Matt Ryan has two years left on his deal, but the Falcons could get out of his contract with a much lighter dead-cap hit next offseason ($15.6 million). In the meantime, why not draft a quarterback with upside and let him learn from Ryan for a full season? Corral didn't workout at the combine as he recovers from an ankle injury sustained in Ole Miss' bowl game, but he brings a quick release, a good arm and plenty of mobility to the table. Atlanta's passing game needs a total revamp, and this pick could be a home run if Corral takes the next step under Ryan's tutelage.

Chargem 03-19-2022 08:15 AM

I feel like the rest of FA for the Chiefs now is shoring up some holes and going into the draft being able to add talent at whatever position it falls to you.

Add on one year deals:
Kyle Fuller
Calais Campbell
Carlos Dunlap

Hardly exciting, but you're hoping most of the talent now comes from the higher picks in the draft?

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:16 AM

Would we be willing to trade down from #30 with ATL for a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th?

smithandrew051 03-19-2022 08:25 AM

Ojabo tore his Achilles at his pro day. Assuming he falls, what round would you be comfortable taking him?

Chargem 03-19-2022 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16201263)
Would we be willing to trade with ATL for a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th?

I don't understand what you're asking

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16201278)
I don't understand what you're asking

Also noteworthy he has ATL trading back into the 1st ahead of us with MIA...

MOCK TRADE: Atlanta jumps for another first-round pick
With four picks left in Round 1, only two quarterbacks have been selected. That means teams could be eyeing a move to grab one and secure the fifth-year option as they develop him. The Falcons -- who drafted receiver Drake London earlier -- take the leap here, sending one of their second-rounders (No. 43), a third-rounder and a fifth-rounder to the Dolphins for the No. 29 slot. Miami, which originally acquired this pick from the 49ers as part of last year's trade involving San Francisco's eventual selection of Trey Lance, can still find offensive line help early in the second round. Look for the Dolphins to consider Central Michigan's Bernhard Raimann or Washington State's Abraham Lucas on Day 2. As for Atlanta ...


29. Atlanta Falcons (via mock trade with MIA/SF)
Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

Quarterback Matt Ryan has two years left on his deal, but the Falcons could get out of his contract with a much lighter dead-cap hit next offseason ($15.6 million). In the meantime, why not draft a quarterback with upside and let him learn from Ryan for a full season? Corral didn't workout at the combine as he recovers from an ankle injury sustained in Ole Miss' bowl game, but he brings a quick release, a good arm and plenty of mobility to the table. Atlanta's passing game needs a total revamp, and this pick could be a home run if Corral takes the next step under Ryan's tutelage.

Chargem 03-19-2022 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16201281)
Also noteworthy he has ATL trading back into the 1st ahead of us with MIA...

MOCK TRADE: Atlanta jumps for another first-round pick
With four picks left in Round 1, only two quarterbacks have been selected. That means teams could be eyeing a move to grab one and secure the fifth-year option as they develop him. The Falcons -- who drafted receiver Drake London earlier -- take the leap here, sending one of their second-rounders (No. 43), a third-rounder and a fifth-rounder to the Dolphins for the No. 29 slot. Miami, which originally acquired this pick from the 49ers as part of last year's trade involving San Francisco's eventual selection of Trey Lance, can still find offensive line help early in the second round. Look for the Dolphins to consider Central Michigan's Bernhard Raimann or Washington State's Abraham Lucas on Day 2. As for Atlanta ...


29. Atlanta Falcons (via mock trade with MIA/SF)
Matt Corral, QB, Ole Miss

Quarterback Matt Ryan has two years left on his deal, but the Falcons could get out of his contract with a much lighter dead-cap hit next offseason ($15.6 million). In the meantime, why not draft a quarterback with upside and let him learn from Ryan for a full season? Corral didn't workout at the combine as he recovers from an ankle injury sustained in Ole Miss' bowl game, but he brings a quick release, a good arm and plenty of mobility to the table. Atlanta's passing game needs a total revamp, and this pick could be a home run if Corral takes the next step under Ryan's tutelage.

Now I get you! depends exactly how the board falls, but I would trade back for those picks pretty sure.

duncan_idaho 03-19-2022 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16201276)
Ojabo tore his Achilles at his pro day. Assuming he falls, what round would you be comfortable taking him?

Don't think I can at that point. He was already a raw prospect being drafted high based on his incredible athleticism, who needed development. Now that development gets put on hold for all of this year? Rough.

He would have to fall to round 4 or later for me to pull the trigger for KC, and I doubt that these teams rebuilding, with huge numbers of picks, let that happen.

Red Dawg 03-19-2022 08:42 AM

A safety in the 1st? Thats stupid as hell considering our DL bullshit.

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16201283)
Now I get you! depends exactly how the board falls, but I would trade back for those picks pretty sure.

Agreed. If D Wyatt and J Williams are gone I'd be inclined to take this offer.

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16201288)
Don't think I can at that point. He was already a raw prospect being drafted high based on his incredible athleticism, who needed development. Now that development gets put on hold for all of this year? Rough.

He would have to fall to round 4 or later for me to pull the trigger for KC, and I doubt that these teams rebuilding, with huge numbers of picks, let that happen.

Same, but I'd take him in the 2nd.

TTUMahomes5 03-19-2022 08:45 AM

You take Ojabo no later than the 2nd round. These athletes are coming back faster from these big injuries.

Couch-Potato 03-19-2022 08:46 AM

1st RD Wyatt
2nd RD Ojabo

Wouldn't hate it.

duncan_idaho 03-19-2022 08:51 AM

I just don't think it's wise or really in line with where the Chiefs are to take a guy in round 2 you know you're getting absolutely nothing from this year (best-case, he can practice in December, I guess) in a really deep draft.

Especially when that guy was ALREADY raw and in need of development.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-19-2022 08:53 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings’ DE Danielle Hunter has an $18 million roster bonus due today and, barring an unforeseen change, Minnesota plans to pay it and tie the two-time Pro Bowl selection to its team for the remaining two years on his contract, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1505192034981670918?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chargem 03-19-2022 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16201302)
I just don't think it's wise or really in line with where the Chiefs are to take a guy in round 2 you know you're getting absolutely nothing from this year (best-case, he can practice in December, I guess) in a really deep draft.

Especially when that guy was ALREADY raw and in need of development.

I agree with you I wouldn't love it in the 2nd, but I wouldn't hate it - with Mahomes I am always thinking long term dynasty builidng at this point, so him missing a year not as much of a concern for me.

3rd onwards would feel like a steal, but no way he lasts that long, wouldn't be surprised if someone takes in the first.

staylor26 03-19-2022 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16201305)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vikings’ DE Danielle Hunter has an $18 million roster bonus due today and, barring an unforeseen change, Minnesota plans to pay it and tie the two-time Pro Bowl selection to its team for the remaining two years on his contract, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1505192034981670918?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Welp, might as well sign Melvin Ingram and draft 2 edge rushers.

This pretty much locks edge rusher in with one of our first 2 picks, and likely in the 1st.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-19-2022 09:10 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It’s a 1-year, $14M deal for Cox. Smart solution for both sides to bring him back. <a href="https://t.co/ph4PgbC2qq">https://t.co/ph4PgbC2qq</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1505198130781954052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chargem 03-19-2022 09:15 AM

I wonder if ZaDarius is obtainable... the kind of money he almost signed with the Ravens for would be a pretty good deal

The Franchise 03-19-2022 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 16201329)
I wonder if ZaDarius is obtainable... the kind of money he almost signed with the Ravens for would be a pretty good deal

The problem is….is why did he back out of that deal? If it was because of money then he won’t be signing with us. If it was because of contract language…then maybe.

RunKC 03-19-2022 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16201320)
Welp, might as well sign Melvin Ingram and draft 2 edge rushers.

This pretty much locks edge rusher in with one of our first 2 picks, and likely in the 1st.

I think that’s a great plan but I would also entertain Lorenzo Carter on top of that.

I think we go DE and corner with our first 2 picks

louie aguiar 03-19-2022 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16201297)
1st RD Wyatt
2nd RD Ojabo

Wouldn't hate it.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tests confirmed that LB David Ojabo tore his Achilles, per a Michigan source. Doctors expect a full and complete recovery.<br><br>Rams’ RB Cam Akers tore his Achilles last summer and was back in about six months, and doctors expect Ojabo to be on the same timeline.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1505178354361765888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I would take Ojabo in the second. He will be back practicing in six months. It’s hard to find premium talent at this pass rusher when you’re always picking late.


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