That's tought to call as well. Some guys become a bloody mess easy and faces will appear more damaged than others. Roy Nelson could get hit in the face with a sledge hammer and still look the same.

What's wrong with the scoring they used in Pride fights over seas?

Nothing.

Won't happen in the U.S. though.

Man, I must be losing it. I thought there was a 10 minute round followed by a 5 minute round. The rules there talk about 3 rounds. What am I thinking of?

Those are the fun U.S. rounds.

The punch count they showed was like 36 to 16- not sure if that counted all the kicks to the head GSP landed.

Johnny got him the temple that stunned him for a second but to say GSP was hurt and should not get the round because of one lucky punch that finally got through. Johnny has more power for sure and should have done a lot more than dance around and act like he won. Fact is GSP rocked him on several occassions as well, he was just was better at smiling and pretending it didn't hurt.

Johnny should have closed the fight out and he didn't GSP won the last round hands down. He only has himslef to blame for a correct judges call.

10-8 is usually if someone gets a point deducted or is close to being knocked out but saved by the bell. Clearly that didn't happen in this fight. Johnny didn't look bad because GSP didn't get his elbow shots in that could have cut him.

Johhny was over confident and let up the 5th round-he only has himself to blame. If GSP was sooo hurt he wouldn't have dominated johnny in the 5th round with 2-0 on takedowns- 10-0 kicks to the face and twice the strikes landed. Maybe he should have spent less time trash talking and more time wathing film on GSP and how he outpoints his opponents and get victories.

GSP had a pretty close submission attempt as well to Johnnies 0 tries.

So, back in UFC headquarters, Dana White was giving a presentation to some of his rank-and-file UFC employees and apparently gave them all a dry, detailed, and reasoned account of the company's plan for 2014.

NSFW

He needs to get some heavy weights that can fight. Be ready for Santos/Cain 4,5,6and 7 coming soon.

This is the only part that makes sense to me.

Won't matter for me, I'm now hopelessly addicted. I'll even watch Bellator, lol

Cormier should have been in the mix, but if he won't fight Cain it's kind of pointless. Barnett is solid, but I have to watch Roy Nelson one more time on a PPV I might gauge my eyes out. Werdum is also interesting and I still think Overeem is a guy nobody wants to fight. It's not as horrible as you make it seem.

Overeem has no chin and can't adjust to MMA gloves.

Cormier is at 205 now.

Barnett is old and can't be relied on as a future selling point.

Werdum is the only guy that is truly intriguing and is a threat to Cain. Everyone else (Nelson, Browne, Silva, Overeem, etc.) is in the same tier.

Right, but he could very well be the best HW on the planet as well. I would have loved to have seen him and JDS go just to get a feel for how good he really is.

He'd be stopped by JDS and Cain, IMO

This season of TUF would have sucked without the girls!

Glad Julianna Pena won, she was easily the best all season. Will be interesting to see how she does in the UFC.

Diaz put it on him.

Anyone else watching this Mark Hunt vs Bigfoot Silva fight on foxsports?

HELLUVA FIGHT, i wanna see that malformed mongoloid ****ing brazilian GO DOWN HARD... too many of those guys rub me the wrong way with their incredible arrogance.

there is a hell of a good boxing match on NBC sports network right now

Hunt vs Silva was one of the best fights I've ever seen.

Its also the first time I've ever seen a fight end in a draw and went "hmmm, yeah I'm OK with that"

I probably would have went with Hunt, but a draw was fine.

Yep, great fight, two giants swinging for the fences, both a bloody mess and throw in plenty of ground and pound... i would've given the decision to Hunt, even though it was pretty close overall, i think he landed more standing shots and held Silva down longer.

One of the best HWT flights ever. Was hoping Hunt would finish that freakazoid off, but I gained new found respect for the neanderthal. Hopefully those 2 don't start talking like Riddick Bowe.

FS1 is going to replay last night's main card tonight at 7pm Central

The neanderthal gene in him is veeery strong, there was definite inter-breeding in his familys distant past.

Just so's i don't come off totally unreasonable about these ****ing brazilians... my disdain for most of them goes way back to the beginning, all the way back to the very first events with Royce Gracie, the guy was Infamous for not letting go of a submission attempt long after the ref tried to stop things... they'd have to push, pull and threaten the guy just to make him let go.

It started in one of the very first events with Keith Hackney and carried over into pretty much everyone one of his wins, he did it to Kimo atleast twice and countless other guys along the way, trying to drive home his message of "how dare you enter here with me"... i just HATED that kind of poor sportsmanship, it was arrogant and dirty.

Then you get into more modern day guys like Rusamir (sp?) Palhares, Bigfoot, Anderson Silva (his disrespectful clowning is legendary) and many, many others... just constantly being showoffs, poor sports, arrogant, dirty, pick an ugly word and they love to do it, too many of them really views themselves as superior people... Palhares for instance, just got kicked out of UFC for breaking a guys arm long after the ref jumped in, just wouldn't let go in true Royce Gracie style.

Take this Bigfoot vs Hunt matchup, it ends in a draw and that big mongoloid mfer wants to get up there later and say...

"Dahhh bahhh yahhh, i jus wanna erraone to know i hurta ma back ina twainin yahhh (as the aussie crowd boo's their guts out) wisha ahhh coulda gibben u daaa win"

Making excuses for not winning, its just typical of too many of those guys... in the final analysis, yep... i hate most brazilians, people who think Americans are arrogant need to take a good look at these extremely unsportsmanlike people.

Not all are though, just one prime example is Wanderlei Silva, i used to hate that guy, but then i watched an interview where you really got a feel for the guy... humble, Christian and shy... much like a guy like Hines Ward, he's an animal on the playing field but a retiring gentleman off it, he changed my tune on him for sure.

But too many of those mfers are terribly poor sports, arrogant to the roof... almost anytime i watch, i'll root for ANY nationality besides those guys.

I too find myself rooting against the Brazilians too. Many are dirty. The only Brazilian fighter I like is JDS. He's proven to be a hell of a nice guy. I guess I'm mostly sick of them because they're all over in racing as well. I'm sure Brazilian fans feel the same about US fighters.

I think Palhares might be mildly reeruned. He's infamous for ruining guys' careers by shredding their knees. He was doing it back in amateur ranks and he's still doing it today. That heelhook that destroyed Mike Pierce's career along with his knee is just the latest example. There's definitely something a little off with that guy upstairs.

Most Brazilians are good sports actually and there's no reason to hate them. Anderson Silva only does his antics in the octagon in order to get into his opponents' heads. They usually lose their shit when starts doing that and become that much easier to catch with his already deadly strikes.

By all accounts, Anderson is a very humble and respectful person outside the octagon.

I wonder how many Brazilians you know.

I've never met one, but i certainly don't believe they're all, as a nation, somehow "dirty".... i hold a sporting grudge, not a broader negative view.

This has spun upon itself, unfortunately.

That's fine.

I'm usually a big fan of their womens beach volleyball teams.

I didn't have to know Hitler to know his gas bill was pretty high.

Cat Zingano's husband has unexpectedly died. No details yet on how.

update: suicide. He hanged himself, no one knows why.

Don't forget the Muzzufar Abdurakhmanov match :cuss:

Also, GSP is a twat

That is so sad. :(

Clearly he needed more choke defense.

I hope the next guy is not just a Kizer flunkie

Probably will be.

Bendo or the punk?

This thread is dying!

UFC on Fox now! Main event should be good.

So is UFC

Oh wow, this is interesting. I think Thomson won the first 2 rounds, but his right hand is broken, and he's got 3 rounds to go.

Thomson won't finish Benson. he's got to figure out a way to win one of the last 2 rounds, and survive to a decision.

oh my god, Thomson might have won that 4th round!

I think Thompson stole 4. He should win this barring a stoppage.

If it goes to a decision it will be VERY interesting. I have it 3-1 Thomson, but 2 of those rounds were close enough that I wouldn't be shocked if he lost.

As of right now, 3 of these rounds are up in the air. I have no damned clue what the judges will do.

I'm OK with either of these guys getting the decision. I'm amazed that Thomson has a legit chance despite breaking his right hand in the 2nd round.

split decision, 2 judges went with Bendo. Too bad Josh broke his hand, or he probably would have had it.

I saw it as the last 3 went to Benson. I'm not sure how one judge had it 4-1 as the first two I thought were clearly went to Thompson

Very good fight. I really thought Thompson won but it wasn't a terrible decision

so they are saying that wanderlei silva and chael sonnen threw down during the taping of TUF.

and supposedly one of silva's guys sucker punched sonnen during the breaking up of it.


LMAO, serves the loudmouth ****er right IMO

Faber got screwed, that Varner v Trujillo fight was sick

They need to do a rematch on Fox since Herb ruined the main event. I buy every ppv and that was the first time I felt ripped off. Of course I'm easier to please than most and don't feel cheated over close decisions not going my guys way or expect the fight of the year on every ppv.

I've still got a little happy dance going for Mir's schelacking.

I can't afford to buy every PPV, and decided to skip this one. Really glad I didn't buy this fight.

Anyone else watching UFC 170 tonight? I'm actually excited about this main card, it looks pretty well-balanced to me. Couple fights that will probably be on the ground, couple fights that will probably be mostly strikes, finishing off with Rousey and McMann.

McMann is wearing THE cutest fight gear ever.

I like her. I hope her arm doesn't break.

anyone have the link for stream??

what stream? I bought the fight. Go to a bar.

Right away, we get an impressive knockout. I'm satisfied with UFC 170 so far.

Aww - how cute.

10-9 mullet

Wily old vet

20-18 mullet. Young guy has to finish the 3rd round.

Maia vs. MacDonald next. This should be good.

For those looking for a stream there's always http://gofirstrow.eu/sport/boxing-wwe-ufc.html

Great card so far. I'm not expecting much out of the co-main but thats fine, the first 3 were all good.

DC is gonna murder this mouthy fool.

haha, g'bye you dumb barista.

Kind of a weak stoppage, but Ronda did drop her, so McMann wasn't robbed.

Second screwed up stoppage by Dean on the card. He let the other one go too long.

Meh. I've never been impressed with any of the women's fights. Not worthy of a headliner.

liver shot and it was over. lol

The first one by Dean (too long) was a really bad one, but this stoppage was fine, I guess.

I'm never gonna outright say its a bad stop when someone just crumples like that, even though we all know she was probably gonna recover, but when you just collapse like that the ref is gonna go into "oh crap" mode, and look to stop it.

that and the fact she did nothing but put one hand to the side of her head and went intot he Matt Cassel position. It means im done.

I don't agree, unless you classify impressive as only fights that end in a bloody knockout, which the women probably are not capable of. (In that case, stop watching MMA, and start watching Boxing) Rousey vs Tate was a really awesome fight.

Here's the end. I really can't fault Herb for stopping this, you can't just go down so helplessly like that if you don't want the fight stopped. Not that I'm blaming McMann because liver shots suck, but thats the way it is.

http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Ronda_Ro...a_McMann_1.gif

I'm guessing that right after he stopped the fight, when he saw McMann stand up so easily, he was thinking "oh, God damnit." and the boos probably didn't help.

He had a rough day, after he let a guy get beat half to death he may have over-corrected a bit.

The only women's fight I'd be remotely interested in would be Cris Cyborg and Rousey.
And no, I'm not some inbred hick that requires a bloody knockout to enjoy a good fight. I just don't feel the women are nearly close in calibre.
Rousey/Tate was hardly an "awesome" fight. If we had two no-name fighters carrying out a fight like that, you'd never hear a word about it.

It was a good stoppage. When a fighter goes down and starts holding their liver while getting punched you have to step in. The Faber one was horrible but this was fine. Although getting Herb out of the main events for a bit isn't a bad idea.

yeah she looked done for a second, and a second is all it takes to get really ****ed up

Rousey is going to kill someone.