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Pablo 04-06-2025 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 18021809)
I've given up on MJ. I know many in here said they had to give him another chance and he's still young but he's got no use to me.

I gave up on him last year and was trying to be very very slightly optimistic about him coming into this year. But it’s obvious he’s trash that shouldn’t be on a mlb roster

poolboy 04-06-2025 05:20 PM

MJ is cannon fodder, any experts out there that have an outfield plan going forward?

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-06-2025 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 18021919)
Can we just switch our outfield out with Omaha's? Is that allowed?

It actually is.

BWillie 04-06-2025 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 18020972)
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The Future is bright

GabyKeepsMeWarm 04-06-2025 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18021925)
Mozzicato was just a stupid pick. I trashed it at the time, and it has just not worked out.

Don't take small, "projectable" pitchers from bad-weather states. It's pretty simple.

Not a pitcher, but Mike Trout would like to have a word….

And I could list dozens of pitchers from “bad weather” places that worked out.

Say what you want about Mozzicato, but you know as much as the rest of us. We’ve already got that one who sucks the penis KCC shitting on every thread with his knowledge, for the love of Christ, please don’t be that guy here.

And most of the 2021 draft was poop.

farmerchief 04-07-2025 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 18021809)
I've given up on MJ. I know many in here said they had to give him another chance and he's still young but he's got no use to me.

Hes had all off season and spring to work on his hitting. If he couldnt do it then, he cant do it now. A "Mendoza Line" hitter, which we already have in center field. I always figured a team could get by with 1 Mendoza line hitter in the lineup, but not 2, and we actually have 3, when Renfroe is in the lineup. Kind of frustrating.

Fansy the Famous Bard 04-07-2025 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by farmerchief (Post 18022285)
Hes had all off season and spring to work on his hitting. If he couldnt do it then, he cant do it now. A "Mendoza Line" hitter, which we already have in center field. I always figured a team could get by with 1 Mendoza line hitter in the lineup, but not 2, and we actually have 3, when Renfroe is in the lineup. Kind of frustrating.

We made the post season with that outfield, last year. Kind of amazing the more you think about it.

ChiTown 04-07-2025 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 18022296)
We made the post season with that outfield, last year. Kind of amazing the more you think about it.

We did a lot of that on the backs of GREAT starting pitching and with a bullpen (Erceg) that was really good at the end of the season. Banking on a repeat of that seems like a bad bet.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-07-2025 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 18022210)
Not a pitcher, but Mike Trout would like to have a word….

And I could list dozens of pitchers from “bad weather” places that worked out.

Say what you want about Mozzicato, but you know as much as the rest of us. We’ve already got that one who sucks the penis KCC shitting on every thread with his knowledge, for the love of Christ, please don’t be that guy here.

And most of the 2021 draft was poop.

Speaking of KCC, wonder how he's taking the 'breaking news' of Vlad signing his $500 million dollar deal to stay with the Jays, given his previous comments in the Royals thread for his 'love' of Vlad and all . . . . .

BWillie 04-07-2025 09:10 AM

Look at the Northwest Arkansas guys stats so far. I know it is only 3 games but good to see.

Cags
Nivens
Jensen
Cross

Could be 3 good sluggers out of that group.

duncan_idaho 04-07-2025 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 18022210)
Not a pitcher, but Mike Trout would like to have a word….

And I could list dozens of pitchers from “bad weather” places that worked out.

Say what you want about Mozzicato, but you know as much as the rest of us. We’ve already got that one who sucks the penis KCC shitting on every thread with his knowledge, for the love of Christ, please don’t be that guy here.

And most of the 2021 draft was poop.

I'm talking about HS pitchers. Which are the lowest hit-rate draft asset to chase, to begin with. When you start delving into guys who are "Projectable" (where you're projecting velocity adds as they mature and develop into men), the rate drops again. And it drops even lower when they're bad-weather state arms.

Mozzicato, at the time of his draft selection, was viewed as a late first/comp round/second round pick value. He had a good feel for spin and had been clocked into the low 90s, but usually sat 88-90.

The Royals took him because they clearly believed he'd add some good weight and increase his velocity.

That hasn't happened at all. He's stalled out at A+. Yes, still time for him to move forward, but the velocity has never jumped consistently. He's still sitting 87-90 for the most part.

Ben Kudrna has come along a little more than Mozzicato, but he also was already throwing quite a bit harder as a high school guy.

The hit rate on high school pitchers from bad-weather states (and short baseball seasons) is the worst you're going to find in a prospect bucket. Yes, there are exceptions. I think a guy KC drafted last year, David Shields, might be one of those (he also was only 17 when drafted and already sitting 92-94). But the risk is so high, KC should just NOT be using its 1st round pick on these types of pitchers.

You want to dabble with some guys in round 2-3? Go right ahead.

And I'm not shitting on the thread. I'm sharing my take on a guy (which IS informed by more than just reading stat lines, BTW). I haven't seen him in person yet because he hasn't made it to Northwest Arkansas or Omaha yet.

KC wasn't connected to Mozzicato at all prior to that pick. They were connected to Kumar Rocker, Brady House, Sal Frelick, and Matt McClain, though. And every single one of those guys would have been a much, much better pick.

Rocker had some injury concerns and signiability issues. But House and Frelick would have been very KC-like picks. McClain, too.

It's not as bad as Dayton Moore and staff (but mostly Dayton, I recently was told) put the kaibosh on drafting Chris Sale because "he's vulgar, and we already have great LHP depth, and we need a SS in the system" and taking Christian Colon instead, but it isn't good, either.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-07-2025 10:12 AM

Brady House would have been a nice pick.

Like what I've seen from him in the minors and the thought of pairing him with Witt on the left side of that infield would have been fun. Still just 21 and knocking on the Major League door this year . . . .

KC_Connection 04-07-2025 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 18022374)
Speaking of KCC, wonder how he's taking the 'breaking news' of Vlad signing his $500 million dollar deal to stay with the Jays, given his previous comments in the Royals thread for his 'love' of Vlad and all . . . . .

Not well. There's a 99% chance that deal ends up being the worst in baseball history.

dlphg9 04-07-2025 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GabyKeepsMeWarm (Post 18022210)
Not a pitcher, but Mike Trout would like to have a word….

And I could list dozens of pitchers from “bad weather” places that worked out.

Say what you want about Mozzicato, but you know as much as the rest of us. We’ve already got that one who sucks the penis KCC shitting on every thread with his knowledge, for the love of Christ, please don’t be that guy here.

And most of the 2021 draft was poop.

You obviously don't know who you are talking to.

Deberg_1990 04-07-2025 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 18022577)
Not well. There's a 99% chance that deal ends up being the worst in baseball history.

The Royals could use a 30-40 HR per year guy.


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