ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   NFL Draft So lets talk some legit options for our pick. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=330486)

OKchiefs 04-14-2020 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14907828)
Opposite of Frank Clark?

Terrell Suggs And Kpass, with talks of both being cap cuts.

Having Suggs on the other side is really what helped the defense later in the year

Finding his replacement could be just as big.

Are you forgetting Okafor? And talks of cutting Kpass? LMAO you're making shit up.

Could we use another rotation option at DE? Sure, but we already have over $40 million and numerous draft picks invested in the DL, and they did pretty well last year. It's a bit of a hyperbole to call it a serious concern.

Pitt Gorilla 04-14-2020 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14907828)
Opposite of Frank Clark?

Terrell Suggs And Kpass, with talks of both being cap cuts.

Having Suggs on the other side is really what helped the defense later in the year

Finding his replacement could be just as big.

KPass isn't going anywhere.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-14-2020 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolboy (Post 14907511)
Grant Delpit should find a starting role early in his career as a versatile safety with big nickel potential. Could be a good move at 32-40

Say goodbye to Dirty Dan and get some cap space

EVERY ****ING OFFSEASON ITS ALWAYS CUT DIRTY DAN!!!

OKchiefs 04-14-2020 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14907875)
EVERY ****ING OFFSEASON ITS ALWAYS CUT DIRTY DAN!!!

Pretty sure this is the last year on his contract, he's likely gone in 2021 anyways.

ForeverChiefs58 04-14-2020 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14907864)
Are you forgetting Okafor? And talks of cutting Kpass? LMAO you're making shit up.

Could we use another rotation option at DE? Sure, but we already have over $40 million and numerous draft picks invested in the DL, and they did pretty well last year. It's a bit of a hyperbole to call it a serious concern.

Okafor is hurt every year of his career. Coming off yet another injury he is a question mark. He is best as a backup role player, not a reliable starter.

Kpass is a backup role player, not a starting impact player.

And I have no idea if they would cut him after drafting his replacement, but it was an option discussed on the internet.

Suggs was such a big improvement on defense, I can’t imagine them not wanting to upgrade his replacement.

OKchiefs 04-15-2020 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14907954)
Okafor is hurt every year of his career. Coming off yet another injury he is a question mark. He is best as a backup role player, not a reliable starter.

Kpass is a backup role player, not a starting impact player.

And I have no idea if they would cut him after drafting his replacement, but it was an option discussed on the internet.

Suggs was such a big improvement on defense, I can’t imagine them not wanting to upgrade his replacement.

Where to begin...

Whether you or I believe Okafor is not dependable or not, the Chiefs are keeping him on the roster at $7.2 million this year. A cap number that large isn't being kept around for someone who isn't seeing a significant role.

Kpass is a backup, yes, but he put up 4 sacks in a limited role as a backup which isn't bad. I don't know where you see this "conversation" that there's talk of him being cut, but I guarantee it's BS. He's making $1.3 million this year and there are far bigger cap hits that could be gotten rid of to free up salary.

Saying Suggs was such a big improvement is a huge stretch. We were already trending up on defense at that point and we only added Suggs after Ogbah was out for the season. He did alright.

Again, I'm sure it would be nice to find another DE at some point. But that player is most likely a backup/rotational player. And DT is almost assuredly set, unless Jones is traded. So calling DL an area of major concern, or however you worded it, is incorrect.

OKchiefs 04-15-2020 01:04 AM

And while I absolutely despise him as a player and the draft pick that was wasted on him, Breeland Speaks is going to get one last chance to prove he's not a worthless fat ass. So there's another body at the position.

ForeverChiefs58 04-15-2020 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14907983)
Where to begin...

Whether you or I believe Okafor is not dependable or not, the Chiefs are keeping him on the roster at $7.2 million this year. A cap number that large isn't being kept around for someone who isn't seeing a significant role.

Kpass is a backup, yes, but he put up 4 sacks in a limited role as a backup which isn't bad. I don't know where you see this "conversation" that there's talk of him being cut, but I guarantee it's BS. He's making $1.3 million this year and there are far bigger cap hits that could be gotten rid of to free up salary.

Saying Suggs was such a big improvement is a huge stretch. We were already trending up on defense at that point and we only added Suggs after Ogbah was out for the season. He did alright.

Again, I'm sure it would be nice to find another DE at some point. But that player is most likely a backup/rotational player. And DT is almost assuredly set, unless Jones is traded. So calling DL an area of major concern, or however you worded it, is incorrect.

Okafor is a broke dick and can only be counted on limited production his entire career with 3 different teams.

He has been in the NFL 7 years and only played a full season 1 time.
He is coming off yet another injury.

Kpass is trash. He has been here for 3 years and was a healthy scratch the last few games of the Super Bowl season.

“Unfortunately for the Chiefs there is evidence to wonder whether that day will ever come. After playing in all 16 games last season, Kpassagnon played in only 13 games his season. Even worse, he was a healthy inactive down the stretch. At a time where he could have been earning key reps and growing into his third offseason, Kpassagnon was left behind by a team that couldn’t afford for him to still figure things out.”

That’s why Adam Teicher also recently offered up Kpassagnon as the Chiefs player who could most use a change of scenery. He writes:

He appears unlikely to fulfill the potential the Chiefs believed he had when they drafted him in the second round in 2017. Last year, the Chiefs felt compelled to trade up to draft Breeland Speaks, who plays the same position. He was a healthy scratch for two of the final three games in the regular season and one in the playoffs.”

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/02/...cenery-chiefs/

It makes sense the Chiefs would draft a replacement starter

Coogs 04-15-2020 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14908090)
Okafor is a broke dick and can only be counted on limited production his entire career with 3 different teams.

He has been in the NFL 7 years and only played a full season 1 time.
He is coming off yet another injury.

Kpass is trash. He has been here for 3 years and was a healthy scratch the last few games of the Super Bowl season.

“Unfortunately for the Chiefs there is evidence to wonder whether that day will ever come. After playing in all 16 games last season, Kpassagnon played in only 13 games his season. Even worse, he was a healthy inactive down the stretch. At a time where he could have been earning key reps and growing into his third offseason, Kpassagnon was left behind by a team that couldn’t afford for him to still figure things out.”

That’s why Adam Teicher also recently offered up Kpassagnon as the Chiefs player who could most use a change of scenery. He writes:

He appears unlikely to fulfill the potential the Chiefs believed he had when they drafted him in the second round in 2017. Last year, the Chiefs felt compelled to trade up to draft Breeland Speaks, who plays the same position. He was a healthy scratch for two of the final three games in the regular season and one in the playoffs.”

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/02/...cenery-chiefs/

It makes sense the Chiefs would draft a replacement starter

That article is from last year. He was a healthy scratch for Sutton. Not this past season with Spags.

Here are his game logs for last season from pro football reference:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2019/

He was on the field for roughly 80% of the snaps for most of the second half of the season and the playoffs.

Mecca 04-15-2020 07:05 AM

For the love of Christ, that's super uninformed.

Clark
Okafar
Kpass
Harris
Ward
Speaks whos probably an end/tackle tweener

Are the guys under contract, something to take into account, the Chiefs carried Tim Ward and a LB, Darius Harris who were rookies all year on IR last year so they will likely be given legit chances to make the team.

ForeverChiefs58 04-15-2020 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 14908094)
That article is from last year. He was a healthy scratch for Sutton. Not this past season with Spags.

Here are his game logs for last season from pro football reference:

https://www.pro-football-reference.c.../gamelog/2019/

He was on the field for 80-85% of the snaps for most of the second half of the season and the playoffs.

He sucks. That shouldn’t even be an argument.

He was a second round pick who didn’t ever do shit, and production from a player in their third year should be a standard recognized by anyone.

duncan_idaho 04-15-2020 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14908090)
Okafor is a broke dick and can only be counted on limited production his entire career with 3 different teams.

He has been in the NFL 7 years and only played a full season 1 time.
He is coming off yet another injury.

Kpass is trash. He has been here for 3 years and was a healthy scratch the last few games of the Super Bowl season.

“Unfortunately for the Chiefs there is evidence to wonder whether that day will ever come. After playing in all 16 games last season, Kpassagnon played in only 13 games his season. Even worse, he was a healthy inactive down the stretch. At a time where he could have been earning key reps and growing into his third offseason, Kpassagnon was left behind by a team that couldn’t afford for him to still figure things out.”

That’s why Adam Teicher also recently offered up Kpassagnon as the Chiefs player who could most use a change of scenery. He writes:

He appears unlikely to fulfill the potential the Chiefs believed he had when they drafted him in the second round in 2017. Last year, the Chiefs felt compelled to trade up to draft Breeland Speaks, who plays the same position. He was a healthy scratch for two of the final three games in the regular season and one in the playoffs.”

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2019/02/...cenery-chiefs/

It makes sense the Chiefs would draft a replacement starter


I don’t know who wrote that or what they’re looking at. It’s wrong. Kpassagnon played every game after the bye. He also saw snaps in every playoff game.

He was a productive role player in this system last year. Might not be a star but was productive. Holding two seasons in which Bob Sutton tried to use him as a Standup OLB against him is silly.

Mecca 04-15-2020 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14908105)
He sucks. That shouldn’t even be an argument.

He was a second round pick who didn’t ever do shit, and production from a player in their third year should be a standard recognized by anyone.

Were you high when you watched the games? He wasn't good for Sutton cause he was out of position, he was a good player last year.

Coogs 04-15-2020 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 14908105)
He sucks. That shouldn’t even be an argument.

He was a second round pick who didn’t ever do shit, and production from a player in their third year should be a standard recognized by anyone.

Watch the Super Bowl. First drive for the 49ers of each half stalls when the backups on the D-line take the field and results in two field goals. Difference in the game. He does not suck. That's what you want. A great D-line rotation and we have that right now.

Coogs 04-15-2020 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14908107)
I don’t know who wrote that or what they’re looking at. It’s wrong. Kpassagnon played every game after the bye. He also saw snaps in every playoff game.

He was a productive role player in this system last year. Might not be a star but was productive. Holding two seasons in which Bob Sutton tried to use him as a Standup OLB against him is silly.

He played every game last season duncan, not just after the bye. That article is a year old.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:00 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.