Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16236750)

Don't hate that, but I'd rather have Watson at 50 than Pickens at 30!

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16236751)

Don’t they HAVE to be right regardless of who they trade up for, edge or WR?

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16236760)

Christian Watson?

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 16236780)

No, Tom Watson.

He's old, but he's can still find seams in a zone with the best of them.

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16236733)

Wasn't he the 3rd best at Ohio State (which is why he transferred to 'Bama)? And isn't Njigba even better than both seniors? I am in the camp of "only trade up if you can get J Johnson or equivalent" if he should happen to slide, which I don't expect. WRs can produce in a number of ways besides speed: length and high-pointing, route running, communications with the QB, having great hands. If the "Avg plays per TD" goes from 7 to 9, does it matter? It's still 7. If a 6'5" receiver comes down with a long pass in double coverage, is it worse than a 5'8" receiver breaking a tackle on a crossing route and going to the house? It will look different than we are used to, but it will still be good enough to win a SB (Brady 2020) with a stout, fast D that has no gaping holes.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16236800)

It IS kind of funny that in a post where we talk about Jameson Williams "not being able to beat out" guys at Ohio State...

That we then advocate trading up for Jermaine Johnson II.

You're aware of WHY he was at Florida State, right? It's because he "Couldn't beat out guys at Georgia" for a more prominent role.

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16236760)

Christian Watson?

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16236751)

Don’t they HAVE to be right regardless of who they trade up for, edge or WR?

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16236800)

It IS kind of funny that in a post where we talk about Jameson Williams "not being able to beat out" guys at Ohio State...

That we then advocate trading up for Jermaine Johnson II.

You're aware of WHY he was at Florida State, right? It's because he "Couldn't beat out guys at Georgia" for a more prominent role.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16236800)

It IS kind of funny that in a post where we talk about Jameson Williams "not being able to beat out" guys at Ohio State...

That we then advocate trading up for Jermaine Johnson II.

You're aware of WHY he was at Florida State, right? It's because he "Couldn't beat out guys at Georgia" for a more prominent role.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16236815)

He had 5 sacks in 2020...his last year at Georgia.

Williams had 152 yards and 2 TDs his last year at Ohio State.

They also had Jermaine listed as a LB and playing at 240 lbs. So he may have transferred because they were playing him out of position.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16236800)

It IS kind of funny that in a post where we talk about Jameson Williams "not being able to beat out" guys at Ohio State...

That we then advocate trading up for Jermaine Johnson II.

You're aware of WHY he was at Florida State, right? It's because he "Couldn't beat out guys at Georgia" for a more prominent role.

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16236750)

Don't hate that, but I'd rather have Watson at 50 than Pickens at 30!

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16236836)

Yeah, I know. My main point is ... I don't find the "but he transferred because..." element to be particularly meaningful in any of these instances. I think it's a weak thing to use against Jameson Williams (as someone who does not advocate drafting him unless he falls to you at 29 or 30).

Sometimes coaches are dumb. Sometimes the system dictates their college production to a certain degree. Etc.