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staylor26 04-06-2022 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16236396)
This is where I’m at. I think they’d like to trade up for a DE but I’m skeptical the board will play out that way. If they end up trading up for a WR, I’ll say in advance it’s probably the wrong thing to do but if it looks like they’re being aggressive to get the guy they want rather than acting as a panic move, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t excited for Mahomes to have an elite rookie WR as an option.

Gonna be one really interesting draft. There’s no running or hiding for Veach here.

As I’ve said before, I have no problem with them reading up for a WR, but they HAVE to be right.

It’s really that simple.

Ideally, if they trade up, it’s for an EDGE.

In58men 04-06-2022 10:29 PM

FWIW Deebo unfollowed 49ers Instagram page.

Buehler445 04-06-2022 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16236399)
As I’ve said before, I have no problem with them reading up for a WR, but they HAVE to be right.

It’s really that simple.

Ideally, if they trade up, it’s for an EDGE.

Yeah, but you can probably say the same thing if we don't trade up. I know more picks give you more wiggle room, but a straight bust at any 1-3 round draft slot is going to be a bitter pill to swallow regardless of what moves are made.

It's go time for the personnel department. There isn't much slack either way.

smithandrew051 04-06-2022 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16236409)
FWIW Deebo unfollowed 49ers Instagram page.

Paging Brandon Vasher!!!!

BossChief 04-06-2022 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16236409)
FWIW Deebo unfollowed 49ers Instagram page.

I’d love him in KC and he’s the kind of FA I could see Veach making a move for (age, production and still unrealized upside) but I’d rather us keep the pick and draft a guy like Skyy, Austin or Dotson to help balance the cap while adding a young playmaker on a rookie contract.

Deebo would be a monster in this offense, though.

JPH83 04-07-2022 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 16236276)
Lol precisely this! What more do you want on film? Jameson Williams is as sudden and explosive of a receiver as I can remember coming out. If not for the ACL tear he was a top 5 pick.

Im not saying give up the bulk of the draft capital we received for Tyreek to jump into the Top 10 but gosh dang some people refuse to acknowledge it might very well be worth it to go after him if he slides into the mid to late teens.

I realise he'll be gone earlier but in the unlikely scenario he falls to 20 i can't see why people are so dead set against it. I'm completely unconvinced Karlaftis or Jermaine Johnson are more impactful players, or at least not so much more i'd totally disregard Wiliams.

TwistedChief 04-07-2022 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16236448)
I realise he'll be gone earlier but in the unlikely scenario he falls to 20 i can't see why people are so dead set against it. I'm completely unconvinced Karlaftis or Jermaine Johnson are more impactful players, or at least not so much more i'd totally disregard Wiliams.

It's not so much that they're more impactful players. It's that we can find substitutes at WR who might give us 2/3 of the his production while at DE those substitutes only replicate 1/2 of the production.

Our DL was the highest paid in the NFL last year and one of the absolute worst. Veach tagged it as the main issue to address this offseason and the only thing we've done is resign the guy all of us were convinced would be off the team. The team would benefit hugely from a year one impact player at that position and unfortunately it's harder to find those guys beyond 20 in the first round.

That's just not the case with WR as we've seen time and time again. Not to mention the fact that Mahomes should all else equal be able to elevate the production of any individual WR while the current personnel on our DL probably do the exact opposite for any individual DE.

htismaqe 04-07-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16236448)
I realise he'll be gone earlier but in the unlikely scenario he falls to 20 i can't see why people are so dead set against it. I'm completely unconvinced Karlaftis or Jermaine Johnson are more impactful players, or at least not so much more i'd totally disregard Wiliams.

Because he is hurt.

Because there's not a ton of separation amongst the top 6-8 WR's.

I could go on but let's not pretend that Williams is some can't miss prospect.

htismaqe 04-07-2022 05:34 AM

And I'll be perfectly honest here:

I was against trading up for Williams from the beginning. But the constant salivating over him and some of the ridiculous trade up scenarios just strengthened my resolve.

I'm just sick of hearing about Jameson Williams. It's like Aaron Curry all over again.

Coochie liquor 04-07-2022 08:41 AM

Deebo would be the best case scenario with this offense.

Woogieman 04-07-2022 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16236484)
And I'll be perfectly honest here:

I was against trading up for Williams from the beginning. But the constant salivating over him and some of the ridiculous trade up scenarios just strengthened my resolve.

I'm just sick of hearing about Jameson Williams. It's like Aaron Curry all over again.

Wasn't he the 3rd best at Ohio State (which is why he transferred to 'Bama)? And isn't Njigba even better than both seniors? I am in the camp of "only trade up if you can get J Johnson or equivalent" if he should happen to slide, which I don't expect. WRs can produce in a number of ways besides speed: length and high-pointing, route running, communications with the QB, having great hands. If the "Avg plays per TD" goes from 7 to 9, does it matter? It's still 7. If a 6'5" receiver comes down with a long pass in double coverage, is it worse than a 5'8" receiver breaking a tackle on a crossing route and going to the house? It will look different than we are used to, but it will still be good enough to win a SB (Brady 2020) with a stout, fast D that has no gaping holes.

Dunerdr 04-07-2022 09:09 AM

I'd rather take Pickens at 30 than trade up for anything but an edge.

Woogieman 04-07-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16236746)
I'd rather take Pickens at 30 than trade up for anything but an edge.

Don't hate that, but I'd rather have Watson at 50 than Pickens at 30!

OKchiefs 04-07-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16236399)
As I’ve said before, I have no problem with them reading up for a WR, but they HAVE to be right.

It’s really that simple.

Ideally, if they trade up, it’s for an EDGE.

Don’t they HAVE to be right regardless of who they trade up for, edge or WR?

The Franchise 04-07-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 16236751)
Don’t they HAVE to be right regardless of who they trade up for, edge or WR?

If they don't trade up? In theory...yes. But it's magnified more if they trade up and miss because they've given up more chances at being right.


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