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Marcellus 04-26-2025 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046659)
I think sometimes a kid starts sliding and all 32 teams start getting paranoid that everyone else knows something they don't.

Especially if they were already iffy on their evaluation.

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046659)
I think sometimes a kid starts sliding and all 32 teams start getting paranoid that everyone else knows something they don't.

I also think that maybe some red flag shows up that no one wants to mention, so it never gets to the media. Maybe the guy has a really annoying personality or is dumb as a rock.

That anonymous comment about how bad Shadeur Sanders' interview was is a good example. The media apparently didn't know about this, but everyone in the league did.

Chris Meck 04-26-2025 03:18 PM

Brashard Smith is a compulsive masturbator.


You mean like that?

BWillie 04-26-2025 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046641)
I would say almost a zero chance. He will still be in recovery mode. And they signed a vet for it.

He's already almost fully recovered now. It happened in October. It is almost May. Then by the time training camp is here he will be ready to roll. Patellar Tendon recovery is around 6 months and Simmons by most sources only had a partial tear. A milder form of the injury than many others who were permanently inhibited.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-26-2025 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046659)
I think sometimes a kid starts sliding and all 32 teams start getting paranoid that everyone else knows something they don't.

It’s the Bo Callahan situation all over again!

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046664)
Brashard Smith is a compulsive masturbator.


You mean like that?


Yeah. But maybe with car exhaust pipes or something.

Anyong Bluth 04-26-2025 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 18046650)
Did Josh Jacobs turn the Raiders into a contender? How many playoff wins did Ezekiel Elliott get for the Cowturds? Was Barkley the right pick for the Giants? I could go on and on. The Eagles did better by grabbing Barkley as a free agent after his rookie deal. I can't think of a single team in recent history that has made their team a contender by wasting a high pick on a running back. I would have been fine drafting a running back at 95 or later. But Simmons,if healthy, has the potential to do much more for the Chiefs that any running back that was available for them

That's the luxury when you are basically the only team in decades to draft one of the top 2 LTs in the NFL with a 7th round pick.

Pat affords us a lot more draft flexibility purely because he outplays his contract and there are 15 other teams that pay roughly the same amount and maybe 2 or 3 match that, but the majority of teams have to make up that impact / production / talent in their roster.

If they get an elite LT out of Simmons at the end of the 1st it will again give the Chiefs an epic advantage in shoring up the 2 hardest positions to fill and with an elite player on top of it.

No different from guys getting paid similar money to Jones, but not capable of the impact CJ actually has.

Net positive players are how make the cap larger in theory.

Chris Meck 04-26-2025 03:20 PM

I'm going to need some more super hawt german girls to announce the next 40 picks or I'm going to fall asleep waiting.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18046648)
Not according to Andy/Veach who said that he’ll be ready to go by training camp.

Amazing how many people here claim to know more about Simmons’ injury/recovery than Veach/Andy/Burkholder.

Ready to go means ready to practice. We’ve seen guys who are “ready to go” like Thuney last year not get cleared for contact until the pre season. You’re hearing what you want to hear.

Easy 6 04-26-2025 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 18046646)
I don't think they were gunshy, it just the board fell the way it did and they saw better value elsewhere.

Agreed

To be clear I'm not at all saying we should've went with a back at #1 this year because that guy wasn't available in the entire class

But consistently drafting the position in the sixth or seventh round and filling in the rest with scrap heap vets keeps this offense from reaching its zenith IMO... shit man just gimme a 3rd round swing like Charles or Hunt were, that didn't turn out too bad right?

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18046665)
He's already almost fully recovered now. It happened in October. It is almost May. Then by the time training camp is here he will be ready to roll. Patellar Tendon recovery is around 6 months and Simmons by most sources only had a partial tear. A milder form of the injury than many others who were permanently inhibited.

Source on the partial tear? Have not seen that anywhere reliable.

BWillie 04-26-2025 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046671)
Ready to go means ready to practice. We’ve seen guys who are “ready to go” like Thuney last year not get cleared for contact until the pre season. You’re hearing what you want to hear.

There is absolutely no reason he won't be 100% by the season opener. None.

He's almost fully recovered now.

BWillie 04-26-2025 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046673)
Source on the partial tear? Have not seen that anywhere reliable.

Ryan Tracy.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18046675)
There is absolutely no reason he won't be 100% by the season opener. None.

He's almost fully recovered now.

If he’s squatting 225 today hes not even 50% recovered. I know lifting isn’t the entire process. I’m rooting for the kids but think you guys 100% have homer glasses on right now.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18046677)
Ryan Tracy.

What’s his source? Dudes consistently wrong and dug in on his own evaluations.

Couch-Potato 04-26-2025 03:25 PM

My top targets for the 7th

OT Brown
CB Bryant
RB Smith
DE Ivey
WR Bond

BWillie 04-26-2025 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046679)
What’s his source? Dudes consistently wrong and dug in on his own evaluations.

Yeah **** that Rick Burkholder and Andy Reid guy too. They have no idea what they are talking about.

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:29 PM

Oh damn. I didnt pay a lot of attention to Restrepos measurables.

How on earth did he only run a 4.83? Seems like he plays much faster than that time.
His mom was also a Trex because his arms are under 30”.

No way he’s on our board with those measurables.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:30 PM

I’m just saying 99% of us thought he had an acl until a month ago. His agent kept that on the DL until it started coming out post combine. There’s absolutely zero info anywhere saying it’s a partial tear. If there was any reason for optimism like that his agent would put it on ****ing billboards. And AI over view says 6 months to a year recovery. He’s a 300lb man. Smart money leans to the later.

Mecca 04-26-2025 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18046683)
Oh damn. I didnt pay a lot of attention to Restrepos measurables.

How on earth did he only run a 4.83? Seems like he plays much faster than that time.
His mom was also a Trex because his arms are under 30”.

No way he’s on our board with those measurables.

He claims he ran with a tight hamstring.

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:34 PM

Wow. Who was the moron that announced the broncos' pick? That guy was a train wreck of wannabe humor that was unfunny and rude.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18046686)
He claims he ran with a tight hamstring.

My tight hammys take me from the 4.6 I should run to about a 7.3. Checks out.

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 18046686)
He claims he ran with a tight hamstring.

That makes sense because id have guessed he’d be a low 4.4 guy.

ReynardMuldrake 04-26-2025 03:34 PM

All that hype just to draft a punter?

....okay

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18046689)
Wow. Who was the moron that announced the broncos' pick? That guy was a train wreck of wannabe humor that was unfunny and rude.

The terelle Davis part was funny. The rest was too forced.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:36 PM

They need to cut rounds 5-7 down to 3 minutes per pick, 2-4 to 5 minutes and Round 1 should be 7 tops. This shit drags on way too long.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18046612)
Graham Mertz to Houston.

Mertz is horrific.


Not NFL material, bad pick.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046697)
They need to cut rounds 5-7 down to 3 minutes per pick, 2-4 to 5 minutes and Round 1 should be 7 tops. This shit drags on way too long.

They want to drag it and get those advertising dollars. They know experts like us will tough it out.

FloridaMan88 04-26-2025 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046671)
Ready to go means ready to practice. We’ve seen guys who are “ready to go” like Thuney last year not get cleared for contact until the pre season. You’re hearing what you want to hear.

You are apparently hearing what you want to hear to fit your own narrative.

If a player is a full go to start training camp, there is every expectation that he’ll be ready by game one of the regular season.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18046702)
You are apparently hearing what you want to hear to fit your own narrative.

If a player is a full go to start training camp, there is every expectation that he’ll be ready by game one of the regular season.

Did they say ready or did they say full go?

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046695)
The terelle Davis part was funny. The rest was too forced.

I think anytime someone mentions elway in a positive manner, I immediately conclude that they're too dumb to warrant any positive reaction.

ReynardMuldrake 04-26-2025 03:40 PM

Why do the guest announcers for every team all wear #24? Does the league give them those jerseys?

FloridaMan88 04-26-2025 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046705)
Did they say ready or did they say full go?

Andy’s exact wording…

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-training-camp

Quote:

“He’ll definitely be ready for training camp, yeah,” Reid added. “But he’ll be able to do some stuff up until then, before that.”
If you want to interpret that to mean that he won’t be ready by week one of the regular season… go for it.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046701)
They want to drag it and get those advertising dollars. They know experts like us will tough it out.

Seems they are already talking about dropping Round 1 down to 7 minutes. Should drop it all the way around though.

Chris Meck 04-26-2025 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046697)
They need to cut rounds 5-7 down to 3 minutes per pick, 2-4 to 5 minutes and Round 1 should be 7 tops. This shit drags on way too long.

If they're going to do this shit, they need to at least have the hot german girls announce all of the picks.

MOAR FINE FRAULEINS!

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:42 PM

It makes me laugh to see all of the guys in the draft room hugging each other after making a pick. It seems so silly.

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046713)
If they're going to do this shit, they need to at least have the hot german girls announce all of the picks.

MOAR FINE FRAULEINS!


And maybe remove one item of clothing per round to keep interest high on Day 3.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046713)
If they're going to do this shit, they need to at least have the hot german girls announce all of the picks.

MOAR FINE FRAULEINS!

What do you mean? The old lady with skin that looks like an old leather couch doesn't get you all hot and bothered?

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046705)
Did they say ready or did they say full go?

https://www.chiefs.com/video/andy-re...ess-conference

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18046711)
Andy’s exact wording…

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-training-camp



If you want to interpret that to mean that he won’t be ready by week one of the regular season… go for it.

I said won’t be the day one starter to start this discussion. I expect hi
To red shirt.

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046712)
Seems they are already talking about dropping Round 1 down to 7 minutes. Should drop it all the way around though.

That’s better for the viewers, but tougher to work trades as a GM. Would probably lead to less trades.

smithandrew051 04-26-2025 03:46 PM

Still some good players out there.

I’d like Logan Brown and or Cobee Bryant with a running back.

LadyChief 04-26-2025 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046597)
I'm sure they had plans, it just worked out this way. Can't always get what you want.


I do wonder what RB’s they had high on their board and the decision they had to make.

I really wish that Franchise show would show that stuff.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:46 PM

I think expecting a guy that hasn't gone full speed (by camp) for nearly a year and will be eased into it again would be incredibly optimistic.

Would be very concerning as that would mean Moore sucks balls.

RunKC 04-26-2025 03:47 PM

Damien Martinez gone

Marcellus 04-26-2025 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18046711)
Andy’s exact wording…

Link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...-training-camp



If you want to interpret that to mean that he won’t be ready by week one of the regular season… go for it.

This is why I'm confused about all the people saying dude likely wont even play this season.

Marcellus 04-26-2025 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046731)
I think expecting a guy that hasn't gone full speed (by camp) for nearly a year and will be eased into it again would be incredibly optimistic.

Would be very concerning as that would mean Moore sucks balls.

You act like players hurt in October don't start the next September every single year in the NFL.

JPH83 04-26-2025 03:48 PM

Martinez gone, ah well, we need speed more than power at RB I guess.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18046726)
That’s better for the viewers, but tougher to work trades as a GM. Would probably lead to less trades.

I don't think there's any hard evidence of that but there could be a point (3 mins) where it could end up being too short.

It seems a lot of teams preset these trades. They will have to get rid of some of these stage walks and long drawn out guest picks and shit. Oh no.

Iconic 04-26-2025 03:49 PM

**** you seahags piece of shits

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:49 PM

Damien Martinez to Seattle.

BWillie 04-26-2025 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 18046725)
I said won’t be the day one starter to start this discussion. I expect hi
To red shirt.

He won't be red shirting, this much I assure you.

Now I don't actually think he will start day one due to optics and the staff being overly careful but if you put a gun to my head I think he is our LT playoff starter.

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18046737)
You act like players hurt in October don't start the next September every single year in the NFL.

Uh, do you know that he's a rookie? Being limited in these camps is kinda a big deal along with the severity of the injury.

He has to learn NFL technique, gel with the others, get conditioning back and learn to trust that knee again.

Dante84 04-26-2025 03:51 PM

25 to go

Marcellus 04-26-2025 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046747)
Uh, do you know that he's a rookie? Being limited in these camps is kinda a big deal along with the severity of the injury.

You are aware Reid said he would be good to go full by TC right? He's a LT he isn't running route trees.

And he can likely do most everything they do in OTA's, its not like they go padded practice or something.

Yo Murphy. 04-26-2025 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18046714)
It makes me laugh to see all of the guys in the draft room hugging each other after making a pick. It seems so silly.

It does look odd. Im going to have to reconsider high-fiving everyone in the room after negotiating better rates on my insurance policies.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 18046745)
He won't be red shirting, this much I assure you.

Now I don't actually think he will start day one due to optics and the staff being overly careful but if you put a gun to my head I think he is our LT playoff starter.

I hope you’re right. But with Andy’s stubbornness with re arranging a line he probably doesn’t see the field without an injury to Moore.

Tribal Warfare 04-26-2025 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 18046744)
Damien Martinez to Seattle.

Veach ****ed around too much deciding to grab a Special Teamer instead

LadyChief 04-26-2025 03:53 PM

Chiefs have two picks left.

Double up at RB?

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18046749)
You are aware Reid said he would be good to go full by TC right? He's a LT he isn't running route trees.

There's more than just training camp. He's not going to be a Week 1 starting LT barring a catastrophic injury to a starter.

Couch-Potato 04-26-2025 03:53 PM

RB Brashard Smith…let’s go!!!

Dude’s perfect for Andy!

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:54 PM

Maybe it’s because he’s a seahag now but Martinez looks slow as **** now in these highlights.

Rain Man 04-26-2025 03:54 PM

The initial reported crowd was 125,000, and it was probably 50,000. Today the crowd is down to about 2,000, most of whom are selling illicit Polish Sausages.

UChieffyBugger 04-26-2025 03:55 PM

RB's Montrell Johnson, Lequint Allen and Brashard Smith still on the board. All have speed, good agility and can catch the ball.

Dunerdr 04-26-2025 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 18046763)
The initial reported crowd was 125,000, and it was probably 50,000. Today the crowd is down to about 2,000, most of whom are selling illicit Polish Sausages.

I went to the draft in KC. After two days of hanging out and Kelce Jam we couldn’t get motivated at all for day 3. Don’t blame them. They’re probably out finding the milk maids and checking out their cheese curds.

Marcellus 04-26-2025 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 18046759)
There's more than just training camp. He's not going to be a Week 1 starting LT barring a catastrophic injury to a starter.

Sure thing Nostradamus.

Dante84 04-26-2025 03:56 PM

KC traded up!!! Let's goooo

Please:
Brashard Smith
Jacory Croskey Merrit
Montrell Johnson Jr

BryanBusby 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 18046767)
Sure thing Nostradamus.

Sorry you seem shaken up about that concept.

UChieffyBugger 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 18046755)
Veach ****ed around too much deciding to grab a Special Teamer instead

Bullshit. Bassa is a damn good pick fgs.

LadyChief 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

Hold it. Do the Chiefs have three picks left?

Chris Meck 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChief (Post 18046758)
Chiefs have two picks left.

Double up at RB?

that's like throwing away one pick. Both can't make the squad.

Dante84 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

We traded up guys

staylor26 04-26-2025 03:57 PM

Chiefs traded up?

Come on Brashard Smith.

LadyChief 04-26-2025 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 18046768)
KC traded up!!! Let's goooo

Please:
Brashard Smith
Jacory Croskey Merrit
Montrell Johnson Jr


Ok they must have traded one of both of their 7th rounders.

Has to be a RB.

BossChief 04-26-2025 03:58 PM

We’re on the clock at 228

staylor26 04-26-2025 03:58 PM

I will take Jacory too.

Chris Meck 04-26-2025 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChief (Post 18046776)
Ok they must have traded one of both of their 7th rounders.

Has to be a RB.

BRASHARD SMITH PLEASE

LadyChief 04-26-2025 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18046772)
that's like throwing away one pick. Both can't make the squad.


Cut Crocy J

Mecca 04-26-2025 03:59 PM

LeQuint Allen is basically a pure 3rd down RB.

TribalElder 04-26-2025 03:59 PM

traded up


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