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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-19-2019 09:11 PM

I told you Spags was good juju. It's not his fault that lil' veachy let Uncle Pete bend him the **** right over on the Fidgity Frank deal( and **** your 2 games out of 11; don't EVEN bring that stupid shit to my door ).

Hammock Parties 11-19-2019 09:22 PM

you need to shut up and enjoy the golden age of chiefs football you well toned asshole

jerryaldini 11-19-2019 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14608196)

That's a lot of Sorenson on the field. Has Ivie done anything?

Imon Yourside 11-19-2019 10:56 PM

Spags is gonna get the defense on lockdown and that disco ball spinning extra fast, better hop on this freight train.

Hammock Parties 11-19-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14609837)
Spags is gonna get the defense on lockdown and that disco ball spinning extra fast, better hop on this freight train.

Frank is going to be shitting fire with a bye week to rest up and get even healthier.

Brady is seriously going to look old.

RunKC 11-19-2019 11:04 PM

I fear our LB’s will be our downfall. Hard not to give Spags credit bc this year looks like an improvement over last year, but he needs another offseason to get some LB’s.

That position is killing us

Chief Northman 11-19-2019 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14609849)
I fear our LB’s will be our downfall. Hard not to give Spags credit bc this year looks like an improvement over last year, but he needs another offseason to get some LB’s.

That position is killing us

Yup.
Not enough speed and they get exposed in coverage. The run fits have improved, but good offenses will get favourable matchups against this bunch.

Not suggesting he’s an answer, but how could O’Daniel be any worse than Niemann in coverage? I thought his arrow was pointing up heading into the season, but obviously the coaches see something lacking in his game that he is not getting utilized.

Hammock Parties 11-27-2019 01:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Plenty of responses to this claiming KC&#39;s defense hasn&#39;t improved drastically from last year.<br><br>My response is this: DVOA, EPA/play, yds/play, yds/drive, and pts/drive don&#39;t care about your feelings and I hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving. <a href="https://t.co/blFNPABKsY">https://t.co/blFNPABKsY</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1199764777679179780?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 11-27-2019 01:21 PM

Yeah, this current defense is plenty good enough if you have the offense of last year.

****ing injuries.

suzzer99 11-27-2019 02:05 PM

****ing Hunt. Just stay in the goddam room and let your boys handle it you moron. Also ****ing Hunt's boys. IDIOTS

crispystl 11-27-2019 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14607893)
I just don't think our Linebackers and Safeties are very good at recognizing RB's going out for screens and swing routes. Maybe they are just too worried about getting killed by the running game.

Hitchen and Sorenson are pretty bad in coverage, Mathieu seems too short to handle TEs.

Next year we need to strengthen our linebacking corp.



We need LB LB OL OL RB TE




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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 11-27-2019 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by crispystl420 (Post 14622124)
We need LB LB OL OL RB TE




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CB too since Breeland and Fuller are gone also WR since Hill Hardman and Pringle are only WR under contract

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-28-2019 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14622160)
also WR since Hill Hardman and Pringle are only WR under contract

Nope. I told you this day was coming. That right there with Kelce is as deep as the wealth goes from here on out, and it's a boatload of treasure compared to what most QBs get.

Hammock Parties 12-02-2019 11:09 AM

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KChiefs1 12-02-2019 11:29 AM

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Hammock Parties 12-02-2019 01:22 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mathieu also said the Chiefs could tell when Carr would take a deeper shot based on the formation the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> were in pre-snap...</p>&mdash; Paul Gutierrez (@PGutierrezESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/PGutierrezESPN/status/1201333128880635904?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 12-02-2019 04:20 PM

spags has a LOT of ****in chess pieces

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Something you may have missed yesterday was that Spags used Kendall Fuller at deep safety primarily, and kept Honey Badger in the slot<br><br>Why you may ask? I really don&#39;t know. But I find that idea fascinating<br><br>Maybe it&#39;s a one time thing, but I&#39;m really curious as to why tbh</p>&mdash; Nate Christensen (@NateCh479) <a href="https://twitter.com/NateCh479/status/1201518990146887680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 12-02-2019 04:21 PM

Hmmm that’s interesting. I’d love to hear Spag’s explanation for that.

Hammock Parties 12-02-2019 04:24 PM

probably something to do with fuller being a shitty tackler

putting badger in the slot gives you a little extra help down low if they run the ball

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-02-2019 04:37 PM

Fenton also left the game due to injury as well. Don’t read too much into this

Skyy God 12-02-2019 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14630626)
probably something to do with fuller being a shitty tackler

putting badger in the slot gives you a little extra help down low if they run the ball

Badger played a lot of slot at AZ.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-02-2019 05:41 PM

Honey badger takes what it wants

RunKC 12-08-2019 08:02 PM

Credit to Andy for hiring this guy. We’ve seen an enormous improvement from the defense and it’s only been 1 offseason.

I really like Spags coaching staff and his aggressive style.

Bowser 12-08-2019 08:18 PM

Huge ups to Spags today, holding Brady and his crew to 16 in their own house. He did it without Claiborne and Fenton, too.

Simply Red 12-08-2019 08:21 PM

#Gameball

Pasta Little Brioni 12-08-2019 08:23 PM

14 ppg the last 3 weeks. All 3 teams threw everything they had at us too...

Chris Meck 12-08-2019 08:41 PM

I'd just like to take this moment to point out that I was pleased with the Spags hire from day one.

staylor26 12-08-2019 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14644438)
I'd just like to take this moment to point out that I was pleased with the Spags hire from day one.

Few of us were, while many wanted to look at it glass half empty (focused on his recent failures).

Chris Meck 12-08-2019 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14644448)
Few of us were, while many wanted to look at it glass half empty (focused on his recent failures).



:thumb:

ThyKingdomCome15 12-08-2019 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14644438)
I'd just like to take this moment to point out that I was pleased with the Spags hire from day one.

My optimistic reasoning was "we gotta beat Brady. He's beaten the best team Brady ever had.

Spags deserves high praise for how this D is playing.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-08-2019 10:03 PM

I'll tell you who sucks. Anthony Hitchens.

Hammock Parties 12-08-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 14644821)
I'll tell you who sucks. Anthony Hitchens.

As good as the run D was, I'm not calling out the MLB tonight.

He probably does a dozen things per game presnap that fans have no appreciation for.

We haven't been caught with our pants down on D very much.

NJChiefsFan 12-08-2019 11:27 PM

Even when a drive doesn't end well at least it is starting to happen on our terms. That alone, beyond all the actual improvement, is enjoyable to watch.

TomBarndtsTwin 12-08-2019 11:31 PM

Give Spags some major props!

He knows how to scheme to shut down that Pats offense.


Hope we meet up with them again in the playoffs. In Fixborough or Arrowhead. Wherever.

Pitt Gorilla 12-08-2019 11:37 PM

Hitchens wasn't great, but, man, our linebackers flat-out played. That was awesome to see.

Imon Yourside 12-08-2019 11:38 PM

Spags knows how to do this, he doesn't even fall asleep during the games like our last D coordinator did.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-09-2019 12:02 AM

Spags takes pride in his defenses. Currently we are the 14th ranked overall defense. That is average!!! That’s actually better than average! If he can somehow contain Lamar in the AFCCG you build a statue outside of Arrowhead immediately after the game

Buehler445 12-09-2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14645068)
Spags takes pride in his defenses. Currently we are the 14th ranked overall defense. That is average!!! That’s actually better than average! If he can somehow contain Lamar in the AFCCG you build a statue outside of Arrowhead immediately after the game

How about we start with the Wild Card game.

Hammock Parties 12-09-2019 12:08 AM

Gunther's spirit is alive and well in Spags' body.

I feel like he is the best possible version of Gunther Cunningham, who was sometimes too aggressive for his own good.

-King- 12-09-2019 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14644438)
I'd just like to take this moment to point out that I was pleased with the Spags hire from day one.

I wasn't. Glad that its looking like I was wrong now. Hopefully the offense gets back on track because this isn't even the average defense we were looking for at the beginning of the year. They're playing like a top 10 defense.

If the offense gets back on track, we're by far the best team in the league IMO.

Tribal Warfare 12-09-2019 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14645077)
How about we start with the Wild Card game.

I'm looking for the 1st round bye

Imon Yourside 12-09-2019 12:30 AM

Deion Hatin' on the Defense

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Buehler445 12-09-2019 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 14645095)
I'm looking for the 1st round bye

Then we should start with the Cheating ****ing Donko Bitch****s.

Hammock Parties 12-09-2019 12:35 AM

Deion's a ****ing moron who thought Alex Smith was the MVP

Imon Yourside 12-09-2019 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14645102)
Deion's a ****ing moron who thought Alex Smith was the MVP

I know that but just for effect I kinda think it's hilarious.

ARROW2 12-09-2019 12:37 AM

[QUOTE=Imon Yourside;14645096]Deion Hatin' on the Defense

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**** YOU DEION!!!!

ARROW2 12-09-2019 12:37 AM

Chief hatin piece of shit......Loved you as a corner but damn man.....never even once gave Mahomes the call, even during his MVP season...

Megatron96 12-09-2019 12:39 AM

Steve Spagnuolo should get a medal. He took a defense composed of 6 new starters,

new to the team as well as to himself,

installed his version of the 4-3,

lacking a shut down DB,

a new safety and a rookie safety,

no legit top-tier MLB,

and a bunch of cast-off DTs/DEs from other teams as well as our own scrapheap (Okafor/Ogbah/KPass/etc.),

and turned them into a defense that held TB12 to 16 points.

And while I'm at it, I have to admit I was wrong. I said before the season started that Spags would be working miracles if he could get this unit to be a 20th ranked defense. He's far exceeded my expectations. With hat over heart, thank you Mr. Spagnuolo.

Now please reduce Drew Lock as efficiently as you did Joe Flacco. That is all.

Wallcrawler 12-09-2019 12:40 AM

This defense has now hand delivered two victories for this team because the offense can't stop shitting itself to death.

This defense plays last year, were hoisting the Lombardi. Holding teams in check on the scoreboard, forcing takeaways/turnover on downs, and big plays in the endzone to end the game.

In true Chiefs fashion, when one side of the ball starts to look good, the other side has to go to shit.

ARROW2 12-09-2019 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14645111)
This defense has now hand delivered two victories for this team because the offense can't stop shitting itself to death.

This defense plays last year, were hoisting the Lombardi. Holding teams in check on the scoreboard, forcing takeaways/turnover on downs, and big plays in the endzone to end the game.

In true Chiefs fashion, when one side of the ball starts to look good, the other side has to go to shit.

:facepalm: We'll be fine. It wasn't too long ago, some were complaining that we were scoring too much and too fast, thus wearing the defense out..

Hammock Parties 12-09-2019 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14645111)
This defense has now hand delivered two victories for this team because the offense can't stop shitting itself to death.

How many Ravens games have you watched?

Their defense had to "bail them out" again today, too.

There are no perfect teams.

Football is a team game, just be glad the Chiefs have a team now instead of an offense and no defense.

ARROW2 12-09-2019 12:59 AM

Exactly, 23 points and 280 yards passing is an explosion for Alex Smith, but I digress...

Megatron96 12-09-2019 01:00 AM

In the two meetings between the Chiefs and Patriots last year, the Patriots scored 43 and 37 points. 80 points. When we were the league-leading sack producing team (52).

Tonight, the Patriots managed just 16.

Dwell on that . . .

ARROW2 12-09-2019 01:09 AM

We won...………...IN Fixboro…….everybody marinate on that.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-09-2019 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14644438)
I'd just like to take this moment to point out that I was pleased with the Spags hire from day one.

Yep, yet another 4 Ace hand and call at the ol' CP. Ah, this must be what Trump feels like every day.

Hey Billay, post me some more Sutton stats you big goober head.
LMAO

CasselGotPeedOn 12-09-2019 01:34 AM

**** Deion

Chargem 12-09-2019 01:52 AM

Doesn't the thought of next year, with the group more experienced in the system together, plus maybe another FA and another high draft pick just make you salivate?

Cosmos 12-09-2019 02:10 AM

This team actually has a blitz package...one where they are disciplined enough to hold their water to the snap.

Saw the front four execute twists and combinations....:clap:

Who would have thought?

Hammock Parties 12-09-2019 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 14645162)
Doesn't the thought of next year, with the group more experienced in the system together, plus maybe another FA and another high draft pick just make you salivate?

if veach hits on two linebackers.....look the **** out

top 10 potential

ChiefsFanatic 12-09-2019 03:28 AM

The defense has been much better the last 3 games, but the opposing teams have had a lot of near misses that had nothing to do with our defense.

Is it just me, or do our outside corners seem to never turn their heads to locate the ball when they are running down field with a receiver? It seems like we are often right with the receiver, but we never look back to try and locate the ball, which results in too many DPI penalties.

I remember watching Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Dale Carter, James Hasty, etc. play CB, and in my memories they would turn their heads so they could make a play on the ball.

I also remembered William Bartee and his inability to turn his head, and getting burnt like toast game after game.

Does this coaching staff teach the DBs to focus on the receiver, instead of playing the ball?

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Chris Meck 12-09-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 14645189)
The defense has been much better the last 3 games, but the opposing teams have had a lot of near misses that had nothing to do with our defense.

Is it just me, or do our outside corners seem to never turn their heads to locate the ball when they are running down field with a receiver? It seems like we are often right with the receiver, but we never look back to try and locate the ball, which results in too many DPI penalties.

I remember watching Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Dale Carter, James Hasty, etc. play CB, and in my memories they would turn their heads so they could make a play on the ball.

I also remembered William Bartee and his inability to turn his head, and getting burnt like toast game after game.

Does this coaching staff teach the DBs to focus on the receiver, instead of playing the ball?

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well, you're right of course.

But, to be fair, some of that is the change in PI rules. Those guys could run into receivers and it wasn't a penalty, it was 'incidental contact'...and they'd do it on purpose sometimes and claim it was an accident to disrupt the play.

You get called on that now, so you kind of have to keep your eyes on the reciever when you're in man until the last second and then try to locate the ball.

It's tougher to play CB in this NFL than those guys' version.

Still, yeah, definitely room for improvement although they're all better than Steven Nelson. :)

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-09-2019 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14645171)
if veach hits on two linebackers.....look the **** out

top 10 potential

We are already the 14th ranked defense....

Chris Meck 12-09-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14645303)
We are already the 14th ranked defense....

against the toughest schedule in the NFL.


I'll take it.

Red Dawg 12-09-2019 07:37 AM

Guys are buying in to Spags and finally understand where they need to be especially at LB. They look like a totally new group these days. Sutton never got them to play better as the year went on. Spags has done that.

stevieray 12-09-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14645304)
against the toughest schedule in the NFL.


I'll take it.

:rockon:

stevieray 12-09-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14645111)
This defense has now hand delivered two victories for this team because



Sometimes that's how it works.

and you're bitching about it?

damn, dude.

PAChiefsGuy 12-09-2019 08:13 AM

D did a great job. Those blitzes were killer. Spags is killing it these past couple games

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-09-2019 08:16 AM

Here’s a couple fun stats. In the first half the Chiefs pressures Brady on 10 of 20 drop backs. That’s 50% of the time Spags brought pressure

Remember how we couldn’t cover running backs. We just held the best receiving RB in James White to 5 catches for 27 yards

cmh6476 12-09-2019 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 14645189)
The defense has been much better the last 3 games, but the opposing teams have had a lot of near misses that had nothing to do with our defense.

Is it just me, or do our outside corners seem to never turn their heads to locate the ball when they are running down field with a receiver? It seems like we are often right with the receiver, but we never look back to try and locate the ball, which results in too many DPI penalties.

I remember watching Albert Lewis, Kevin Ross, Dale Carter, James Hasty, etc. play CB, and in my memories they would turn their heads so they could make a play on the ball.

I also remembered William Bartee and his inability to turn his head, and getting burnt like toast game after game.

Does this coaching staff teach the DBs to focus on the receiver, instead of playing the ball?

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now we get picks because a corner is out of position and looks up cause he knows he's beat and the ball unexpectedly lands in his hands.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-09-2019 08:43 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New story. The Chiefs’ defensive stars reveled in boasting about beating Tom Brady. In the unit’s biggest statement yet, Chris Jones made quite the declaration.<br><br>“We don’t need the offense to win games for us.” <a href="https://t.co/h0lJBN1YWW">https://t.co/h0lJBN1YWW</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1204047269743468544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Love Jones

RunKC 12-09-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14574865)
Remember watching the Ravens give our offense fits last year at Arrowhead and envying their aggressive approach. Was hoping Spags would do the same thing they did and goddamn have they.

Love the ballsy blitz packages. Love that they are now trying to dictate what the offense does instead of sitting back and reacting.

We keep stopping the run and play like this, we are going to fist the Patriots.

Thinking about this again last night. This defense looks exactly like the Ravens and I love it.

I just heard that we blitzed on first down 4X LMAO

Wanna run the ball? **** You we’re blitzing those gaps.
Wanna do that quick strike shit? **** you we’re blitzing and jamming your receivers

Goddamn guys I think we got ourselves a DC. Spags and Pat might actually get Andy to the SB.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-09-2019 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14645303)
We are already the 14th ranked defense....

God DAMN I'm a ****ing genius calling this defense based solely on a hire!

Chris Meck 12-09-2019 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14645599)
Thinking about this again last night. This defense looks exactly like the Ravens and I love it.

I just heard that we blitzed on first down 4X LMAO

Wanna run the ball? **** You we’re blitzing those gaps.
Wanna do that quick strike shit? **** you we’re blitzing and jamming your receivers

Goddamn guys I think we got ourselves a DC. Spags and Pat might actually get Andy to the SB.

somewhere way back there in the early posts, I said they'd finish top ten.


I ****ing double down right now.

staylor26 12-10-2019 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 14070956)
People always view this stuff with homer glasses. One week ago, all the talk around here was how the Chiefs' defense was actually good at home. Rather than looking at what QBs they had faced at home (almost all shit), they ignored the warning signs.

Steve Spagnuolo is a guy that had a couple of good defenses a decade ago when he had DE's like Strahan (HOF'er) Tuck, Osi Umenyiora, and JPP.

In 2007, his three best DE's combined for over 300 career sacks.
In 2011, his three best DE's combined for over 210 career sacks.

No shit he had good defenses back then. Christ, Greg Robinson could have coordinated a great unit with that talent.

The best thing you can say about him is that when he had the best DL of the last generation he didn't **** it up, but that's damning with faint praise.

Even in 2016 he had two good-great ends and three All-Pro DBs. No one could **** that up.

This ****ing moron shit on the Spags hire from day 1 while also saying John ****ing Pagano would’ve been on his short list.

TLO 12-10-2019 06:12 PM

Wish he was here last year. :(

Titty Meat 12-10-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14649090)
This ****ing moron shit on the Spags hire from day 1 while also saying John ****ing Pagano would’ve been on his short list.

Hes not wrong and goodness u are an angry fella

-King- 12-10-2019 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14649090)
This ****ing moron shit on the Spags hire from day 1 while also saying John ****ing Pagano would’ve been on his short list.

You take so much pride in being right/wrong on a message board LMAO LMAO

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-10-2019 06:37 PM

We are more of a defensive team than a offensive...

ThyKingdomCome15 12-10-2019 06:38 PM

Great addition

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 12-10-2019 06:41 PM

He’s made Anthony ****ing Hitchens into competent, he’s made a special teams player from Dallas be our best LB, he’s gotten the most out of Ragland and Sorenson, our pass defense is a complete 180 from last year, we lost Houston and Ford last year and our line has gotten even better. Spags is everything we have ever wanted. I have full faith in this defense to get a stop when we need one.


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