Think, Brian Westbrook in their receiving game. That is what comes to my mind.

One thing I give McCluster more than anyone for guys his size, he probably picks up more yards per touch in effort alone, than anyone else. I can't count how many times I've seen this kid propel himself from the opponents knee height, and get an extra 4-5 yards before he was touched.ROFL

I can't really argue with that assessment given the circumstances that happened this year with Breston, Baldwin, and the team as a whole. I think with Breaston, Baldwin, and Bowe healthy and active and wanting to play this game, I think you are right. McCluster is eating up a roster spot.

However, I think when the situation comes where you need a guy to play his ass off for that extra yard, McCluster blows everyone out of the water except for Bowe, and I think that is why he gets his shot at that roster spot.

He is the Danny Woodhead of the Chiefs, no more, no less. I'd honestly wager a lifetime ban bet with anyone who disagrees with me here, but I'd go as far to say that if we had a WCO guy like Reid here, with a QB that doesn't eat feces for breakfast, McCluster could be more productive here than Woodhead in New England. That doesn't say a whole hell of a lot because neither are throwing up big stats, but they both come up big when you need them to.

Primarily on stretch plays and toss-sweeps. He really doesn't do that in the middle of the field, which is where ideally he should be doing it.

This was a great thread until the last two pages of complete horseshit.

Danny is a better route-runner, faster, runner on inside zone plays and power plays, and a more competent pass protector. Additionally, he is quite larger than DMC, which allows him to chip and release in packages.

I could be seriously mistaken, but the majority of the snaps I've seen McCluster being the primary target, he isn't primarily going inside, and if he does, by the time he gets the ball he's outside of the hash marks give or take. He's more of a perimeter screen receiver type.

I'm drawing a blank but there used to be a lions receiver in the mid 90s who was utilized in their offense in that exact fashion. Very productive guy, but wasn't a solid #1 or #2 receiver.

Unfortunately, a common phenomenon when Mr. BlackBob is in attendance.

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He said Reid is very overrated.

Actually it is turning around, we're talking about McCluster in a Reid/Geno offense, hop on board or get off the train.
I know Woodhead is about two tenths of a second faster in the combine in terms of raw speed, but I'd argue that Dexter is faster at going from Catch to full speed than Woodhead, and more patient in the screen game.

I watch a LOT of Patriots tape because they are my #2 team and I love the way both Woodhead and McCluster are utilized in both offenses, I just wish we had the HOF QB to plug into our own.

McCluster shouldn't even be with the team after this year.

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Why?

He's our #2 receiver in catches, has a higher YPCar/YPCat than Charles this last year.

NOT THAT I AM SAYING MCCLUSTER IS A BETTER RB BECAUSE I AM NOT

Just saying the guy can be productive when used right.

Think we will hear any news tomorrow boys?

Danny ran a 4.33 and DMC ran a 2.56 IIRC. I'm being a prick here but there is quite significant difference, especially when one compares their weight 20/10yd dash times.

Charles Missed 15 games last season.

ROFL

Which accounts for his impressive comparative production.

FAX

15*

You have to admit.

When Mr. BlackBob is right, he's right.

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I'm betting we either get a serious update by 2 Eastern, or by 5:30 Central. Using my crystal ball now.

WOO, I wish Dexter was that fast!

But yes, you are right, however, I believe Dexter as faster at getting up to speed once he is set and goes, which makes up for quite a bit of the difference when we aren't talking about an open field 40 yard dash.

See if you can find some tape on McCluster and the screen game and I'll give you some Woodhead footage to use. You'll get an idea of what I'm saying.

Teicher: Chiefs interview Reid; Koetter is out
 

Chiefs interview Reid; Koetter is out
Atlanta special-teams coach Armstrong is still in the running for Kansas City job.
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star
One of the NFL’s most accomplished head coaches hit the job market this week when Andy Reid was fired by the Philadelphia Eagles.

But is he the right fit for Kansas City? The Chiefs interviewed Reid on Wednesday in Philadelphia to find out.

Another candidate to replace Crennel, Atlanta offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter, took himself out of the running Wednesday by saying he would remain with the Falcons. The other reported candidate for the job is Atlanta special-teams coach Keith Armstrong.

Reid was also scheduled to meet this week with the Cardinals in Arizona about their vacant head-coaching position.

Reid, 55, was with the Eagles 14 years, making him the NFL’s longest-tenured head coach at the time of his firing on Monday. He won 130 regular-season games, making him by far the coach with the most victories in the Eagles’ long history.

“He had the love and respect of every individual in this organization,” Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said Monday. “This man is amazing to work with, smart and dedicated, and the record will speak for itself.”

Under Reid, the Eagles won six division championships in the competitive NFC East and advanced to five NFC title games. They reached the Super Bowl only once, though, losing 24-21 to New England after the 2004 season.

Things ended badly for Reid in Philly. The Eagles invested heavily in free-agency before the 2011 season, to the point where they were referred to as the NFL’s dream team. But they finished the season at 8-8. Their 4-12 finish this season gave them a last-place finish in their division.

“I think Andy is an outstanding football coach,” Lurie said. “That’s what Andy wants to do. He doesn’t want to transition to other aspects of football operations. He’s a football coach. He wants to coach right now. He was very excited about the future of this team and this franchise. He wanted to stay.”

In an interview this week after firing head coach Romeo Crennel, Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt said the new coach would report to him and not general manager Scott Pioli. That represents a change in how the Chiefs do business.

Hunt also said he would lead the search for Crennel’s replacement. Pioli was responsible for hiring the two previous head coaches, Todd Haley and Crennel. Hunt has said the Chiefs would consider candidates who have been head coaches, are working as coordinators and coaches who are working in the college ranks.

Hunt, Pioli and president Mark Donovan were reported to be among the Chiefs’ officials who sat in on the interview with Reid. Pioli also was said to have been in Atlanta on Tuesday when Hunt talked to Koetter and Armstrong.

Hunt hopes to have a new coach hired and a decision on whether Pioli will remain as GM by February but this week declined to reveal how the Chiefs would go about interviewing candidates.

“I’m not going to go into the dynamics of the search process,” Hunt said. “I will say I have the appropriate resources available to help me. We’re very well-organized. We want to be thorough, but we also want to be efficient as well.

“I’m not going to go into the resources, but leave it said we’re well-organized. We’ve got the appropriate people lined up to help.”

Really? Pretty sure he Finished #1 in rushing in the AFC, must have been one hell of a single game.

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I know you guys are trying hard to argue, but "this last season" uses a very important qualifier in that statement. It means the last season we played, which was this season, the one we just finished finished, the one where Charles was the number 1 rusher in the AFC.

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This is what DMC should have been.

Not with Cassel and a lack of receiving corps in KC unfortunately. There is still hope in the WCO with Geno and Reid though.

Oh come on dont be a smart ass. Its obvious Im talking about 2011

ANd it should be obvious I've been talking about 2012.......:spock:

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What was our record in THIS LAST SEASON?

2-14. Keyword, "this"

Now go back and read my statement, did I not say "this" in that quote when I said "This last year"?

This.

:spock:

This season does not become last season until March.

As it turns out, I said this last YEAR, not Season.


So, I'm still right.

Not that, "This last year" implies 2012 baby ROFL

Yep. The phrase "this last year" definitely does not contain the word, "this".

Moving on, however, a new invention has come on the market which is a helium-filled balloon in the shape of a fish. It comes in bass, rainbow trout, and salmon variations ... mainly sporting fish, apparently. They come with a hand-held remote that operates their tail fin thereby allowing the user to navigate the little fellas in any direction they choose. This seems ready-made for the SOC movement in that, rather than hiring an expensive airplane to haul a giant banner around, each Chiefs fan can have their own banner fish and fly that little sucker wherever and whenever they choose. I predict complete anarchy in the coming season.

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I don't even know why we're arguing about my qualifier that clearly implies 2012, the point I made is still right and you guys need to accept that and move on. McCluster did more per touch out of the backfield in the running and receiving game than Charles in 2012.

Period.

Please stop.

Aww hell yeah! Mine is going to read "THIS :spock::spock::spock::spock:"

I was correcting my mistake. Quit being an asshole.

It was clear from the start that I was referring to 2012 production, you are just being an assclown to derail the thread.:grr:

Yeah. At least you never did that. ANDY REID.

It isn't my fault people make assumptions out of my comments rather than take them at their literal worth.

I did find a picture of a Walrus though.

http://images.nationalgeographic.com...50_600x450.jpg

You derailed the thread jackass.

It does concern me given the fact that countless thousands of Chiefs fans will be flying their own, custom-made banners each containing a demand that is, essentially, a personal opinion. I fear that poor Clark will be confused as hell as to what to do.

We may wind up firing everybody and converting the squad into a gospel choir.

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Prove it.

Literal worth = nothing

So when I say McCluster has out produced Charles in terms of Yards per touch, that means nothing?

Edit: In 2012 before you douches go postal

absolutely

Why? It proves my point that you guys argued against, pulling the thread off track............

Yet I am to blame?

Why?

Again......
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I have not seen trolling this good since the Honky Tonk Man.

I'm not about to be called a Honky Tonk Man multi am I?

Because I swear to god I'll quit, I'm not a multi!

In other news, Andy Reid rumors are starting to pick up steam on twitter again. Makes me think we might even get an early morning update on what the Walrus ate for breakfast.

Good! Back to what we're meant to be talking about!

Based on the fact they play different positions and have vastly different # of touches, I'd say yes, without including other factors.

Im not discrediting DMC but its dumb to compare him to Charles.

Eh, that first one is arguable. He's a running back by nature but can be utilized as a wide receiver, and we do. And they do get a number of touches, but the point is Charles is honestly one of the best EVER in terms of production per touch. And this year, McCluster was right there with him (higher) in production numbers. You can't honestly sit here and tell me McCluster is bad.

I'll accept that he was a reach in the 2nd round, and that for his pick #, he could be considered a bust. But you can't tell me the guy isn't good at what he does, and doesn't produce.

Just like how it would be dumb to compare him to actual receivers, which is what others were doing to try to discredit my point?

Can't have it both ways, because McCluster is unique on this team, as he fulfills both roles as a Running Back and Receiver.

On topic, the chatter this morning is so drab. All the talk about Reid is about how "Well" the meeting went, so much so that I feel like people are overusing the word. And also a little talk about how Clark has "shown" his hand by going so aggressively at Reid by flying TO Philly.

Stop polluting this thread with talk of dexter mccluster. Lmao.

The Dexter McCluster experiment has to end.

Would rather see more of Newsome or hell even Copper than to see Dexter at the WR spot.

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Exoterbob has been banned from the thread for trolling dumb****ery the whole time I was asleep. And no, I don't know if he's a blackbob mult and am way too ****ing lazy to find out.

Remember GoChiefs video? People started pollution. People can end pollution. Well I just did my part. You're welcome.

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Reppity rep rep.

ROFL

I'm not sure how well the whole idea of dictating behavior or directing conversation is going to go over around here.

But while we're at it, I'd like to see some discussion on the subject of crushing toasted macaroons on chocolate ice cream which is then spread liberally on a nice lady's left tittah so that the niplet serves as a sort of condiment.

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ROFL You guys must've really wanted him gone. I felt like the Pope after going to my rep page.

From this thread anyway LMAO

NO, just gone from existence on this site.

610 replaying the Fox 29 report right now.

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If anything changed overnight between the <s style="text-decoration: initial; color: rgb(187, 102, 102);">#</s>Chiefs and HC Andy Reid, I'd be shocked. I'm Told $$$'s in place! Match made in Heaven for KC!

Be very careful posting Nick Athan's stuff here. It will get your shit pushed in. Fair warning...

Oh yea. Thanks, wont post any more WPI.

Is the deal done yet?

Anything of significance said on 610?

That guy is unreliable as all hell man.

Ya, sorry about that.

I dont know about you flopnuts, but im ****ing taking cover..


GET DOWN!! in my arnold schwarzenegger

No worries bro. You're just posting news. You haven't been around long enough to know Athan's history here. You're good.