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Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 10344437)
I used to think you were a coward...no you are just a ****ing moron
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Marcellus 01-05-2014 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10346092)
No its mine too. Good news is your young and still have time to get smarter.

FringeNC 01-05-2014 02:19 PM
Alex Smith may put up big numbers the next few years being a coach on the field in Reid's offense as long as the O-line doesn't regress. He had a pretty good 2nd half of the year with less than a stellar receiving corps.

I think there will be a lot of turnover on the roster with the exception of QB.

Mav 01-05-2014 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10346125)
Alex Smith may put up big numbers the next few years being a coach on the field in Reid's offense as long as the O-line doesn't regress. He had a pretty good 2nd half of the year with less than a stellar receiving corps.

I think there will be a lot of turnover on the roster with the exception of QB.
I think there is a lot of truth to what you just said.

I think we can also drop the Game Manager label from Alex Smith as well.

Jakemall 01-05-2014 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10344341)
Generally, I read through the entire thread before responding, but I just have to stop here.

You are not wrong.
Losing a 28 point lead is a failure on the part of both the offense and the defense.

But is the failure on offense Smith's fault or Reid's?

I look at the playcalling, and while he didn't run the ball, he did become extremely conservative in the passing game, effectively playing not to lose, and in essense tying Smith's hands, who had made play after play, after play to build that lead.

Smith should have won this game.
Reid and the defense lost it.
Losing Charles, Davis and Avery probably had little impact on the offense's ability to score. :thumb:

Not to say that the rest of what you said isn't true...but scoring and play calling don't live in a vacuum.

Sorter 01-05-2014 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10344341)
Generally, I read through the entire thread before responding, but I just have to stop here.

You are not wrong.
Losing a 28 point lead is a failure on the part of both the offense and the defense.

But is the failure on offense Smith's fault or Reid's?

I look at the playcalling, and while he didn't run the ball, he did become extremely conservative in the passing game, effectively playing not to lose, and in essense tying Smith's hands, who had made play after play, after play to build that lead.

Smith should have won this game.
Reid and the defense lost it.
This.

Pablo 01-05-2014 02:23 PM
I haven't read this thread; but I'm imagine it's a nice back and forth of Smith bashing/defending.

Alex Smith did everything you want a QB to do to win a game yesterday. I never thought I'd see him elevate him game that much, especially on such a big stage. He had two hiccups, but was perfect otherwise.

I've changed my stance based on that game. I'm going to stop being so hard on the guy, because he showed that with anything other than the worst abortion of a defense ever to step on a field, we could be playoff contenders.

ROYC75 01-05-2014 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10344385)
Actually, I'm not sure I wouldn't give Jenkins a real opportunity to compete for that 3rd receiver position with McCluster.

We saw on 2 different 3rd down plays what real speed there can do.
I am with you on this one.

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10346100)
No it's mine too. Good news is your young and still have time to get smarter.
I got smart enough to learn that the Chiefs aren't worth any sort of investment -be it time or money.

ROYC75 01-05-2014 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10338144)
Just an amazing job in this first half of football to weather the storm of losing Charles and stepping his game up to a level many of us thought we would never see.

Worth every penny of 2 second round picks.

If they give him an extension next week, I'm ok with it.

PLAYMAKER


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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10346136)
I think there is a lot of truth to what you just said.

I think we can also drop the Game Manager label from Alex Smith as well.
Ugh, Nope. He is what he is, a very good game manager.Alex has never been considered a gunslinger, one who can strap a team on his back and will or pull a team through on his own ability ( arm ). Alex is a system QB that needs excellent talent around him to run the system and win.

He will win a few games now and then and somebody will jump up and declare him a saint, a winner.

Alex now is what Trent was, a system QB with good talent around him, on a team with no defense!

I'm not bashing Alex here, just setting the record straight. As good as Alex was yesterday, he is still a system QB, a game manager that will fail more often than win with marginal talent around him, when the game is on the line.

Mav 01-05-2014 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10346246)
Ugh, Nope. He is what he is, a very good game manager.Alex has never been considered a gunslinger, one who can strap a team on his back and will or pull a team through on his own ability ( arm ). Alex is a system QB that needs excellent talent around him to run the system and win.

He will win a few games now and then and somebody will jump up and declare him a saint, a winner.

Alex now is what Trent was, a system QB with good talent around him, on a team with no defense!

I'm not bashing Alex here, just setting the record straight. As good as Alex was yesterday, he is still a system QB, a game manager that will fail more often than win with marginal talent around him, when the game is on the line.
He needs excellent talent around him?

Well, lets have this discussion when he gets EXCELLENT talent around him.

He has one excellent talent, (jamal) and one good, (bowe), and that excellent lasted 6 plays, and he threw for 378 yards and 4 tds.

Your argument, is a straw argument at best.

If anything, Alex Smith proved yesterday that with excellent talent around him, he could be down right FILTHY.

TripleThreat 01-05-2014 02:39 PM
U know whats stupid? We score 44 points and all these other supposevly big offensive minded teams arent even putting over 30. F THIS LEAGUE

Sandy Vagina 01-05-2014 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10346271)
If anything, Alex Smith proved yesterday that with excellent talent around him, he could be down right FILTHY.
yep.. and just wait to see the benefits of year 2 in this offense.. plus an upgrade at WR. Chiefs offense is going to be good for a while... just need the D to not totally suck hairy balls.. :)

chiefquarterback10 01-05-2014 02:48 PM
Smith proved a lot of things, he was worth it, he plays clutch in big games with 9 td's and 0 int's now in playoff games. it was a brady like performance using lesser talent and getting the most out of them, while running too. I honestly never thought I'd see him play that well. I can't wait for his second year in the offense with hopefully an improved group of "weapons"

Easy 6 01-05-2014 02:49 PM
Dude was sooo money yesterday, throwing it, running it, he did it all.

He deserved to be the victor.


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