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DaKCMan AP 06-14-2010 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6819773)
I'm not saying its a football power.

The original point was brought up because I said I'd be happy with going to the Pac-10 and continue a winning basketball tradition. The original statement was said jokingly.

Then it got turned into "We'll were Florida. We compete in EVERYTHING"

Then I said I thought it was impressive what Kansas (and Kansas St) has been able to do while splitting a state of 2 million or so and Florida has it's pick of a state of 18 million.

No one is saying that KU is a football power.

But the fact that no one around here ever gives KU football any credit whatsoever is annoying, that's all.

That's not what I said. I said I prefer to compete in every sport. It's all about expectations.

sedated 06-14-2010 10:07 AM

not to distract from bickering between schools, ESPN reporting Texas is headed to Pac-10, while Chip Brown is still tweeting that Texas is trying to sustain the Big 12 (10).

DJ's left nut 06-14-2010 10:07 AM

I officially don't give a **** what happens.

Just give me some real news.

Rooster 06-14-2010 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6819783)
Espn is reporting the UT's departure is imminant

Espn is also reporting that UT has decided to stay in the Big-12(10)

ROFL

:spock:

Are they sure about that? :D

Bambi 06-14-2010 10:07 AM

Guy on 810 right now says there's no way a 16 team conference could get 20 million each from a TV deal..

Bambi 06-14-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6819787)
That's not what I said. I said I prefer to compete in every sport. It's all about expectations.

understood

kepp 06-14-2010 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6819791)
Guy on 810 right now says there's no way a 16 team conference could get 20 million each from a TV deal..

He can't just say that as a blanket statement. I would think that it totally depends on which teams are involved.

DaKCMan AP 06-14-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6819754)
You didn't, but you did write this. And I'm still not sure what your point is or why you are even comparing Florida to Kansas in the first place.



It seems to me that KU does a great job in major athletics for the size of its state, no?

Kansas is a larger state than Hawaii, Nebraska, West Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho and Utah. It's about the same size as Arkansas, Mississippi and Iowa.

KU finished behind (and mostly well behind) Hawaii, New Mexico, Utah, West Virginia, Boise State, BYU, Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, Mississippi, and Iowa State in the Director's Cup.

I'm not trying to bash Kansas. You asked, so I'll answer. Obviously KU has an outstanding basketball program and has had some productive football seasons.

KC_Connection 06-14-2010 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6819787)
That's not what I said. I said I prefer to compete in every sport. It's all about expectations.

Everyone does. But that isn't entirely realistic for most schools in this country.

KC_Connection 06-14-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6819800)
Kansas is a larger state than Hawaii, Nebraska, West Virginia, New Mexico, Nevada, Idaho and Utah. It's about the same size as Arkansas, Mississippi and Iowa.

KU finished behind (and mostly well behind) Hawaii, New Mexico, Utah, West Virginia, Boise State, BYU, Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, Mississippi, and Iowa State in the Director's Cup.

Forgive my ignorance, but WTF is the Director's Cup and why should I care?

DaKCMan AP 06-14-2010 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 6819806)
Forgive my ignorance, but WTF is the Director's Cup and why should I care?

http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/na...ectorscup.html

It's a measure of the all-around athletic performance of a university.

ChiTown 06-14-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 6819773)

No one is saying that KU is a football power.

But the fact that no one around here ever gives KU football any credit whatsoever is annoying, that's all.

What credit are you seeking? I'm curious, because I'm not sure exactly what credit KU Football really deserves over the last 20 years. You had 1 phenomenal season in the last 20 years (in which they didn't even win the North Div) - how much credit does that deserve?

Your 2007 season reminds me a little of KSU when we went 11-1 in 1999, didn't go to a BCS Bowl and their only loss was to NU - who finished the year #2 in the Country. The major difference was, we had 11 wins the two years prior and were number 1 heading into the B12 CG in 98, and won 11 games 3 of the 4 years after that, including a B12 Championship. That deserves some credit for consistency. What KU did deserves a footnote for being an outlier in a 20 year period that was predominately mediocre to bad. You had 7 seasons out of 20 where you broke .500, and of the 7, only 4 had 8 or more wins, and only 2 had 10 or more wins. Again, congrats for hitting the lottery in 2007-08.

KC_Connection 06-14-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 6819809)
http://www.nacda.com/directorscup/na...ectorscup.html

It's a measure of the all-around athletic performance of a university.

So it's a measure of performance in all the sports that nobody cares about? No wonder I didn't know what it was.

I said major athletics, by the way, not all-around athletics.

Saulbadguy 06-14-2010 10:19 AM

:ksu: EMAW :ksu:

DenverChief 06-14-2010 10:19 AM

**** ESPN

Quote:

The rumors of the death of the Big 12 may have been greatly exaggerated. Texas will commit to staying in the conference, according to Orangebloods.com.

School officials could announce their decision as early as Monday. The other nine teams remaining after the departure of Colorado and Nebraska could also stay to create a 10-team league.
ESPN contradicted the report, saying Texas was on the verge of leaving for the Pac-10.

A smaller league actually could be an incentive to stay. In a story by the Kansas City Star, the revenue from a new television contract being touted by commissioner Dan Beebe could produce "significantly more" than $17 million for each of the 10 remaining Big 12 schools.

In a concession to Texas, schools get an unequal distribution of television revenue and have the opportunity to develop its own network.
The lone question is whether Texas A&M will choose to keep its affiliation with the Big 12 or opt to join the SEC. That would be the final piece to saving the Big 12.

Should the Aggies leave the conference, then it is likely Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State would join the Pac-10.
"As (athletic director) Bill Byrne and I have said on several occasions, our desire was for the Big 12 Conference to continue," Texas A&M R. Bowen Loftin said in a statement Sunday evening. "With the departure of two universities from the conference last week, the Big 12 is certainly not what it was.
"We are aggressively exploring our options, one of which is for the Big 12 to continue in some form. We have also had extensive discussions with other conferences over the past two days. We continue to evaluate our options in a deliberate manner as we work toward a decision that is in the best long-term interests of Texas A&M."



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