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ptlyon 06-10-2013 02:01 PM

Oh we're talking about Jim Johnson, not Chad Johnson

duncan_idaho 06-10-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 9741543)
Come on, you know strikeouts don't matter.

Yes, why would you want a late-inning reliever to be good at striking guys out?

It's not like they frequently need to strand runners or be able to pitch out of jams to preserve a lead...

Prison Bitch 06-10-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 9741486)
Do you like talking out of your ass?

Most of our players suck ass. The reason you're getting blasted is because Holland ISN'T ONE OF THEM!

Is that easy enough for you to understand or do I need to dumb it down for you more?

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duncan_idaho 06-10-2013 02:26 PM

Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.

Walrus 06-10-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9741453)
Not getting into this with you. Just a heads up Johnson not a SO pitcher so i really don't care about that stat.Most GM in baseball would take Johnson over Holland. Gotta love Royal fans got the best player at every position yet every year still 15 to 20 games under .500.

Link?

Walrus 06-10-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9741631)
Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.

He's another Frenchy. PASS

Tytanium 06-10-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9741631)
Let's change directions...

So Grady Sizemore is beginning baseball activities this week and could be ready to play again soon.

How much would you be willing to spend on a Sizemore flyer? In all likelihood, he is never again close to the player he was, but on the off chance he is...

I'd be fine with seeing KC offer $3-5 million for Sizemore and taking a chance on him regaining his form. Assuming he's healthy NOW, of course.

With Dyson coming back, you have insurance. And can give Sizemore a lot of rest when needed.

No. His injury history just doesn't justify the risk, and his knees and back are problematic at best. .224/.285/.422 in 71 games back in 2011 and with his knees his speed element is most likely toast. I'd much rather cut ties with Frenchy and keep Lough as a swing guy, although we have a really lefty heavy outfield already.

duncan_idaho 06-10-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 9741657)
He's another Frenchy. PASS

Not sure what you mean.

Sizemore in no way resembles Francoeur as a player. He's patient, takes walks, and posted 4 seasons that were better than Francoeur's best by the time he was 26.

Sizemore, when healthy, was a complete hitter who worked counts, got on base, and punished mistakes. He also played a very solid CF and could easily handle RF. Oh, and he was a much better baserunner than Francoeur, stealing bases at a 76 percent clip (compared to Francoeur, who is successful just under 60 percent of the time).

siberian khatru 06-10-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Walrus (Post 9741643)
Link?

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Tytanium 06-10-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9741685)
Not sure what you mean.

Sizemore in no way resembles Francoeur as a player. He's patient, takes walks, and posted 4 seasons that were better than Francoeur's best by the time he was 26.

Sizemore, when healthy, was a complete hitter who worked counts, got on base, and punished mistakes. He also played a very solid CF and could easily handle RF. Oh, and he was a much better baserunner than Francoeur, stealing bases at a 76 percent clip (compared to Francoeur, who is successful just under 60 percent of the time).

Only if he's healthy. Which he isn't.

duncan_idaho 06-10-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tytanium (Post 9741667)
No. His injury history just doesn't justify the risk, and his knees and back are problematic at best. .224/.285/.422 in 71 games back in 2011 and with his knees his speed element is most likely toast. I'd much rather cut ties with Frenchy and keep Lough as a swing guy, although we have a really lefty heavy outfield already.

Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?

BigCatDaddy 06-10-2013 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9741698)
Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?

I gave you 10 million a year for a left fielder, 7 million for a right fielder and you got a CF back as part of the trade for my Cy Young pitcher. NOW you need 4 million more.... WHY?/ David Glass

Walrus 06-10-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 9741698)
Even if the speed element is gone, I think there's a chance he's still capable of being a .280/.350/.450 hitter.

That would be a pretty nice element to add to the Royals' offense.

I wouldn't put all eggs in that basket, but if he's willing to come back for a few million dollars and you can sign him, what's the harm?

Hasn't played in 2 years and when he did he put up a sub .300 OBP(Limited games) And hes 30 now. You really think he can put up those numbers? I don't.

DeezNutz 06-10-2013 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 9741712)
I gave you 10 million a year for a left fielder, 7 million for a right fielder and you got a CF back as part of the trade for my Cy Young pitcher. NOW you need 4 million more.... WHY?/ David Glass

The Frenchy contract is even harder to explain now than it was the moment it was offered, which is pretty damn sad, since most everyone knew how stupid the deal was in the first place.

Tytanium 06-10-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9741737)
The Frenchy contract is even harder to explain now than it was the moment it was offered, which is pretty damn sad, since most everyone knew how stupid the deal was in the first place.

It makes a little more sense now that it's pretty obvious Frenchy and Melky were juicing in 2011 and one of them stopped after they got a fat contract.


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