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htismaqe 04-05-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16234162)
It's possible they think once you get past that top tier it drops into a large pool of guys.

Say after what...20 or so there isn't much difference player wise in what you coudl get in the 2nd etc.

Those end of the first round picks are just god damn hard to make.

I'm willing to bet that's exactly how the Chiefs view it since many of us see it that way and we're just amateur draftniks.

This draft class is REALLY deep. However, it's pretty shallow at the top.

Dunerdr 04-05-2022 02:19 PM

I was thinking about the "move around in the draft" thing. What if they traded a lot to be higher in the 2nd and third and really attack that level of guys. You could likely land several high floor creed/bolton type guys and have less 4/6/7 round flyer guys.

Basically why not use as much ammo as possible to land top 100 guys? And fewer glorified priority free agents.

The Franchise 04-05-2022 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16234191)
I'm willing to bet that's exactly how the Chiefs view it since many of us see it that way and we're just amateur draftniks.

This draft class is REALLY deep. However, it's pretty shallow at the top.

You've got guys like Sam Williams, Boye Mafe and Cameron Thomas but I'm not 100% sold that they're immediate starters right off the bat. Maybe in our defense but they wouldn't be lighting it up.

Now...if you could get Jermaine Johnson and Cameron Thomas in the first two rounds? That goes along way to improving this defensive line from day 1.

staylor26 04-05-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16234171)
The #Chiefs have signed former #Saints and #Colts DT Taylor Stallworth, per his agent @TesslerSports. He was in for a visit today. Some added depth up front for KC.

Soooo…

Jones
Nnadi
Stallworth
Saunders
Wharton

I don’t think they plan on drafting a DT early.

The Franchise 04-05-2022 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16234229)
Soooo…

Jones
Nnadi
Stallworth
Saunders
Wharton

I don’t think they plan on drafting a DT early.

Or they're going to draft one high, trade Jones and then watch the fans go nuclear. LMAO

JPH83 04-05-2022 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16234197)
You've got guys like Sam Williams, Boye Mafe and Cameron Thomas but I'm not 100% sold that they're immediate starters right off the bat. Maybe in our defense but they wouldn't be lighting it up.

Now...if you could get Jermaine Johnson and Cameron Thomas in the first two rounds? That goes along way to improving this defensive line from day 1.

Kinda my view of them and the situation. I think they're all possible starters because we're so light at DE, but I don't know they're immediate impact players. I just don't get Mafe as a R1 value. How would you feel about a Jermain Johnson followed by Travis Jones or other DT in R2?

htismaqe 04-05-2022 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16234236)
Kinda my view of them and the situation. I think they're all possible starters because we're so light at DE, but I don't know they're immediate impact players. I just don't get Mafe as a R1 value. How would you feel about a Jermain Johnson followed by Travis Jones or other DT in R2?

I'm not sure Mafe is even a fit for our defense. He's not really "on my board" right now.

O.city 04-05-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16234177)
The Chiefs could see the DEs as 5 guys in the first tier. Hutchinson, Thibodeaux, Walker, Johnson and Karlaftis.

In their mind, they need to come away with one of them. The first three are pretty unreachable but those last two could depending on how far they fall.

Do you think Karlaftis is in that?

poolboy 04-05-2022 02:37 PM

go get your first round DE, sign Clowney and/or Ingram and call it a day on the edge position

htismaqe 04-05-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16234255)
Do you think Karlaftis is in that?

I do. He's a Clowney type. Might not ever be a 15-sack guy but can consistently get to 8-10 year in and year out.

suzzer99 04-05-2022 02:37 PM

If Armani Watts goes on to be a solid starting or even dime/nickel safety, I'm going to lose a lot of faith in Spags for refusing to ever give him a chance over Dan freaking Sorenson.

htismaqe 04-05-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16234262)
If Armani Watts goes on to be a solid starting or even dime/nickel safety I'm going to lose a lot of faith in Spags.

Watts is trash.

In58men 04-05-2022 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16234235)
Or they're going to draft one high, trade Jones and then watch the fans go nuclear. LMAO

Trade Jones + 2nd round to Commanders for Terry McLaurin.

Draft DE

It’s that simple :D

O.city 04-05-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16234197)
You've got guys like Sam Williams, Boye Mafe and Cameron Thomas but I'm not 100% sold that they're immediate starters right off the bat. Maybe in our defense but they wouldn't be lighting it up.

Now...if you could get Jermaine Johnson and Cameron Thomas in the first two rounds? That goes along way to improving this defensive line from day 1.

They may see guys like Williams and Thomas good players but not necessarily guys that develop into every down type guys or "starters" etc.

htismaqe 04-05-2022 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16234265)
Trade Jones + 2nd round to Commanders for Terry McLaurin.

Draft DE

It’s that simple :D

Washington is already trying to shed salary because they're paying so much for their DL. They don't want Chris Jones.


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