I'm turning this one off. Enjoy, guys!

You’re gonna miss bill giving Flory some time when we’re down 20 though

Another 6.5 minutes this half with no Flory and no adjustments at all from Self as he watches us get torched over and over and over again defensively

Does he care more about playing KJ than trying to win?

****ing mayo with numbers ends up in a strip and foul. Pathetic

This guy might be worthless unless he's shooting and making 3s.

What is also bizarre is how Self gives that guy a free pass when he makes plays like that all the time and loses his man regularly defensively

I know he can shoot but no other guard who has ever played for Self is staying on the floor after this shit

Yes. Yes he does. He and Lance threw their teams under the bus because of their loyalty to a player. It doesn't matter how poorly they play they're going to get every opportunity to try and turn it around at the expense of everyone else on the team.

Hmm. Looks like I'm glad I mostly had other things to do this early afternoon.

We have even regressed back to last year of trying to outscore teams via 2. 13 more 3 attempts for them and 6 more 3s. Can't win that way in 2025.

KSU has definitely been playing at the level of a top 25 team the last couple of weeks so a loss isn’t surprising at all, but this is looking like another complete no show on the road

Disturbing how often that has happened this season

There have been a few times where Rylan and even Zeke have been giving up some clean looks behind the line. Dumbfounded.

What does Zeke have to do to get benched by this coach?

Hes played like this in every road game all season

5 on 3 ends up with a Harris brick 3. Sums up the season.

Anyone wanna start the 2025-2026 Repository thread?

A season without Flory where KJ could easily decide to return?

Not looking forward to it

Listen, I know you're going to bang the Flory to the league NBA drum all season/offseason long, but I'm not going to be surprised if he does come back, at all.

AJ can come back? :facepalm:

Also, you're crazy if you're not looking forward to Darryn next year.

A do-it-all guard.

He’s going to be a lottery pick, there’s no reality in which he’s staying in college given that opportunity

Listen, I know you never think you're wrong at anything. That's fine.

I'm going to remain hopeful he comes back for a second year, but I won't be upset if he decides to bolt.

Especially after this catastrophic season.

If Self plays him, sure, but there’s little reason to think next year’s team will be any better than this one. And you can bet KJ will be back.

Why would anybody be upset about a NBA player leaving to do the obvious after being benched all season for KJ Adams? It’s a no-brainer for him.

Don't care.

I'm sick of watching DaJuan play PG for this team.

Give me a freshman with unlimited potential - shit, I'm to the point where I'd rather watch DP toss up >10% layup shots all game long.

I can't find a single mock draft with him listed so I don't really get the sentiment he's gone. Some random tweet by a guy who had Mayo as a first rounder is the only evidence I've seen he's going anywhere.

Don't question, KCC.

Idiot.

AJ or KJ? Both could be back but I expect AJ will be long gone.

Can anyone remember the last time KU was blown out as much as they have been this year?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Upside and Motor <a href="https://twitter.com/FanSided?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FanSided</a>: An updated 2025 NBA Draft Big Board, charting the remarkable highs and lows of Ace Bailey.<br><br>Additional blurbs on VJ Edgecombe, Sergio De Larrea, Flory Bidunga, and Bennett Stirtz.<br><br>✍️: <a href="https://twitter.com/KlineNBA?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KlineNBA</a><a href="https://t.co/DBt0i22uUM">https://t.co/DBt0i22uUM</a></p>&mdash; The Step Back (@The_Step_Back) <a href="https://twitter.com/The_Step_Back/status/1888265183916695562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oops, meant KJ

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">11-20 Mock Draft:<br>11. Jase Richardson<br>12. Alex Condon<br>13. Emmanuel Sharp<br>14. Flory Bidunga<br>15. Tomislav Ivisic<br>16. Miles Byrd<br>17. Chad Baker-Mazura<br>18. Kon Knueppel<br>19. Ryan Kalkbrenner<br>20. Joseph Tugler <a href="https://t.co/xt73iSsn7H">https://t.co/xt73iSsn7H</a></p>&mdash; FourFoot (@FootFour4076) <a href="https://twitter.com/FootFour4076/status/1887543052232712399?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is my 2025 NBA Draft top 100 Big Board 3.0 <a href="https://t.co/JUccibM0d1">pic.twitter.com/JUccibM0d1</a></p>&mdash; KJ (@KJ__Hoops) <a href="https://twitter.com/KJ__Hoops/status/1886484597913116912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I know the expectation was low but holy ****

Wait for June, he will be on every mock there is once the team leaks start happening. He’s the best prospect this team has had since Embiid and scouts in the NBA will have obviously noticed by now.

I didn't read anywhere in that article where Bidunga is a projected lottery pick.

Yes, last year

KCC sharing links of random Twitter accounts.

KJ__Hoops seems reputable.

The draft buzz around him has begun and it won’t stop.

You think NBA scouts haven’t noticed him by now if random Twitter accounts have?

It’s exceedingly obvious what’s going to happen here. Not my fault you want to stick your head in the sand about it to protect yourself from disappointment.

FootFour4076, got it.

LMAO

Homie, you said he's a lottery pick right now. Not me. You said he's gone right now, not me.

You're stuck finding random, weirdo accounts out there on X trying to prove your point.

Missed the game due to a birthday party.

Sounds like I got lucky.

Looks like a beat down by a mediocre team. Self apparently can’t win at K State anymore.

Great.

He is a lottery pick right now. All the proof I need is the games he’s playing and the age he is.

This team is cooked.

Bill doesn't seem to care.

Yeah, I'd tend to agree with FootFour4076, too.

Good call.

KSU played great tbh (which they’ve done for a few weeks now) but we didn’t show up, Self didn’t adjust, and Flory basically didn’t play

Stick that head in the sand as long as you can if its easier to take

For thinking there's a chance Flory does return for his sophomore year campaign?

I don't think that's outlandish or unreasonable at all.

Unless KU has more guaranteed money over longer term to offer him than a NBA team does after they draft him, it’s pretty outlandish imo

Good thing FootFour agrees with ya, buddy.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">15th in the mock draft but not good enough to play ahead of Kj Adams…</p>&mdash; Baldy (@baldridgejack) <a href="https://twitter.com/baldridgejack/status/1886518015534964846?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

He won’t be the last one when the final mocks come out in the summer, that’s for sure.

You just made my point, dumb dumb.

I'm not as convicted that Flory stays as you are that he bolts.

But, you're that type of internet message board guy who never claims or can bear to be wrong.

I’d love to be wrong here but there’s no reason to think I will be. Blind hope isn’t enough to get me there like it is for you.

Well, good thing I've got KJ__Hoops to agree with me.

That's all I really need.

And even if Flory somehow decided to pass up on being a NBA player for no real reason, have you explained yet why we should be hopeful when KJ is almost certainly gonna be here next season again?

Fire up the DVD burner

That guy has been posting good mocks for many seasons now and has been early on many good prospects.

But again, you shouldn’t need to appeal to authority to reach the obvious conclusion as to what Flory Bidunga is.

I'm trying my best to not think or worry about KJ.

I'm kind of hoping he just disappears, forever. Although, much like whether FB goes pro, or does not go pro - I wouldn't be surprised to see KJ back, again.

And ****ing up things royally for the team, again.

Who is going to score if Mayo isnt on the floor? Thank god he's on this team.

Uh, Dickinson? Easily the team’s offensive best player who draws double teams on the catch from basically every opponent.

There’s a time and a place for Zeke to play clearly but he doesn’t deserve to get a free pass for dumbass shit on both ends every game. Would never have happened on a Self team a few years ago.

I think there’s even more of a reason to think KJ returns than Flory goes to the NBA. Feels like no freshman is saving that situation no matter how good they are.

Dickinson can't get the ball himself. That's the issue with big men. Mayo is really the only guy I am comfortable with on this entire team getting his own shot.

Why are we discussing KJ returning?

Isn’t he out of eligibility?

He came to KU in 2021-2022, so he doesn’t get a Covid year, right?

Is this true? This would make my day if accurate. I’ve assumed he had the 5th year all along.

That is probably the fault of the coach who doesn’t play through him as much as they should.

And yes, I think there’s a place for Zeke too on this team but it doesn’t make sense to me that when these other transfers make one mistake they get benched for entire halves while Zeke is allowed to float around defensively and make awful turnovers to no consequence every game.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KJ Adams 5th year senior it’s over <a href="https://t.co/YmCv1rHWes">https://t.co/YmCv1rHWes</a></p>&mdash; Dylan Posley (@dylan_watson02) <a href="https://twitter.com/dylan_watson02/status/1875192265418924453?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nah we are still doomed

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">POSTGAME: KU GETS ROCKED BY KSTATE <a href="https://t.co/m9KQkfH3SG">https://t.co/m9KQkfH3SG</a></p>&mdash; Mike Vernon (@M_Vernon) <a href="https://twitter.com/M_Vernon/status/1888335205418905657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Self apparently hasn't even left the locker room yet

I don't even care about this season until the tournament deal

So just like the players and the coach then?

Devising a game plan to get KJ forty minutes.

Self just said they have inconsistent effort in games and even in practices...isn't that your job to fix that?

I only watched 2nd half while cleaning garage, but.....

KJ with 35 minutes. LMAOLMAO

I also thought it was funny to watch us down 15 or whatever under 8 to go, we're still going for points in the paint while they were drilling 3's.

He's a middle 1st rounder right now., Self ever plays him, he might make it into the lottery.

I'll never understand Self playing KJ over Flory. KJ isn't working and you have a a 1st round pick sitting on the bench. Even the students are chanting for him, thats how obvious Flory needs more playing time.

First time its entered my mind that maybe the game has past Self by and he refuses to change.

Maybe the players realize Flory should be playing.

HCBS will never, ever do anything differently.

MUST. POUND. THE. BALL. INSIDE.

No matter the deficit.

Like I said before, I have a hard time seeing a coach be elite in the old era and the new era.

4 major events over the last decade:

-Adidas scandal taking away scholarships
-Golden State Warrior Effect shifting emphasis to the 3 point shot
-NIL
-Transfer Portal

The college game is so different right now. It’s no surprise so many of Self’s former peers retired.

This team's offense has been flawed since KJ became a starter two seasons ago (and that was even when KJ was playing with two NBA wing players and McCullar in 2022-2023). He makes it so easy for any decent coach to game plan against us because he can't do anything offensively from any distance on the court and isn't a real lob threat at his size. You just can't hide a guy like this in a half court offense.

Self has all these numbers (and also all the numbers that show how much better KU is when Flory is on the court) and hasn't adjusted whatsoever. I can only assume he just doesn't care at this point about winning as much as he used to?

In hindsight, KJ was probably better at the 5. He could at least take advantage of slower 5’s with his athleticism.

At the 4, he’s being defended by guards most the time anymore who are taller and nearly as athletic. Especially easy to defend, when they know he can’t shoot at all.

He can’t blow by a 4 like he could a 5 on occasion.

He doesn’t rebound against either, so that was moot.