ChiefsPlanet

ChiefsPlanet (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/index.php)
-   Nzoner's Game Room (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/forumdisplay.php?f=1)
-   -   Chiefs *****The George Karlaftis Thread***** (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=343615)

wachashi 05-04-2022 08:59 AM

I wonder who the "really good pass rusher on the other side" is? :hmmm:

I do like that he's already thinking about the damage he can do not having to face double teams.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;I&#39;ve never been on a private jet before. I think it&#39;s gonna be the coolest thing ever.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/jK9VwqorxZ">pic.twitter.com/jK9VwqorxZ</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1521856092992643072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 4, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

O.city 05-04-2022 09:02 AM

Well, cut him. He's clearly not very football smart if he thinks we have a good pass rusher on the other side.

Dante84 05-04-2022 09:05 AM

His anticipation is so elite that he knew we were going to UFA Melvin and eventually bring him back.

crispystl 05-04-2022 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16278224)
And for all of the talk about speed rushers....people get super pissed all the time when those types of DEs get taken out of the play because the OT just let's them run around the back of the QB.

They're nice to have but they can't be your entire defensive line.

All you have to do is remember how frustrating watching Dee Ford play was most of the time.

DJ's left nut 05-04-2022 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16278231)
Exactly why people needed to temper their expectations with who we were going to get.

I would have loved to draft Jermaine Johnson but Karlaftis is 3 years younger and seems to not have any attitude issues. Not saying that it's confirmed that he does....but he fell down for a reason.

I love Karlaftis as a piece. Like you said - your whole line can't be speed guys. And finding someone who can rush the passer with strength/technique is actually DAMN hard to do.

It's what Veach thought we were getting with Clark. And it's hugely important. I just wish we'd have complemented him elsewhere and I don't really see anyone left in FA that does that.

There are lesser versions of the same style of player available, but I don't see anyone that is likely to give a much different look than Karlaftis will.

I guess I'll just have to be patient and hope someone surfaces next season. I mean even someone like Herring, should he blow up somehow, isn't a twitchy player. Nor is Kaindoh. There just isn't anyone on this roster or likely to be added to this roster who brings that style of play.

-King- 05-04-2022 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 16281839)
All you have to do is remember how frustrating watching Dee Ford play was most of the time.

Eh. I never had a problem with his pass rush. It was always his run defense and ya know....him being brain dead.

The Franchise 05-04-2022 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16281861)
I love Karlaftis as a piece. Like you said - your whole line can't be speed guys. And finding someone who can rush the passer with strength/technique is actually DAMN hard to do.

It's what Veach thought we were getting with Clark. And it's hugely important. I just wish we'd have complemented him elsewhere and I don't really see anyone left in FA that does that.

There are lesser versions of the same style of player available, but I don't see anyone that is likely to give a much different look than Karlaftis will.

I guess I'll just have to be patient and hope someone surfaces next season. I mean even someone like Herring, should he blow up somehow, isn't a twitchy player. Nor is Kaindoh. There just isn't anyone on this roster or likely to be added to this roster who brings that style of play.

Maybe someone will get cut. Or Veach can find a Charvarious Ward on the defensive line. I’m still not sure they’re done.

He specifically mentioned the defensive line and then went out and brought in 5-6 DBs. There were probably a couple of passrushers that got taken before he could get them so I’ll wait and see what he does before Week 1.

O.city 05-04-2022 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16281861)
I love Karlaftis as a piece. Like you said - your whole line can't be speed guys. And finding someone who can rush the passer with strength/technique is actually DAMN hard to do.

It's what Veach thought we were getting with Clark. And it's hugely important. I just wish we'd have complemented him elsewhere and I don't really see anyone left in FA that does that.

There are lesser versions of the same style of player available, but I don't see anyone that is likely to give a much different look than Karlaftis will.

I guess I'll just have to be patient and hope someone surfaces next season. I mean even someone like Herring, should he blow up somehow, isn't a twitchy player. Nor is Kaindoh. There just isn't anyone on this roster or likely to be added to this roster who brings that style of play.

Well, don't post about trying to trade for that guy you'll get yelled at by.........



wait.

O.city 05-04-2022 09:26 AM

On a serious note, if you want a real twitchy guy at the other DE, you're probably gonna have to expound some resources for him.

O.city 05-04-2022 09:27 AM

Or you get lucky and Frank Clark goes back to the guy he was in Seattle.

crispystl 05-04-2022 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 16281864)
Eh. I never had a problem with his pass rush. It was always his run defense and ya know....him being brain dead.

Yeah, but I think since he relied so much on speed his long wide angles to the QB took him out of a lot of plays and made the tackles' job easier. I think the Franchise was just pointing this out as a weakness many speed rushers have.

The Franchise 05-04-2022 09:32 AM

I’d be interested to see what Cullen thinks of Chaisson in Jacksonville. He was a first round pick that hasn’t done a ton in the league. Reports during the draft was that he was raw.

O.city 05-04-2022 09:56 AM

Chaisson isn't good though.

JPH83 05-04-2022 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16281861)
I love Karlaftis as a piece. Like you said - your whole line can't be speed guys. And finding someone who can rush the passer with strength/technique is actually DAMN hard to do.

It's what Veach thought we were getting with Clark. And it's hugely important. I just wish we'd have complemented him elsewhere and I don't really see anyone left in FA that does that.

There are lesser versions of the same style of player available, but I don't see anyone that is likely to give a much different look than Karlaftis will.

I guess I'll just have to be patient and hope someone surfaces next season. I mean even someone like Herring, should he blow up somehow, isn't a twitchy player. Nor is Kaindoh. There just isn't anyone on this roster or likely to be added to this roster who brings that style of play.

Kaindoh isn't twitchy, and I'm not sure there's loads he does well so obviously there's a good chance he doesn't make it. But his length and bend do offer something different. What we don't have is a speed rusher. But half the time someone like Bonitto was mentioned everyone complained about his ability against the run.

MahomesMagic 05-04-2022 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16281874)
On a serious note, if you want a real twitchy guy at the other DE, you're probably gonna have to expound some resources for him.

Jerry Hughes could probably be had for a few million a year.


[IMG]<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jerry Hughes ranks among Edge Rushers this season<br><br>💪 81.2 pass rush grade (15th)<br>💪 46 hurries (10th)<br>💪 19.1% pass rush win rate (13th) <a href="https://t.co/ZnmG4pMVEu">pic.twitter.com/ZnmG4pMVEu</a></p>&mdash; PFF BUF Bills (@PFF_Bills) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Bills/status/1491824619854118914?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 10, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>[/IMG]


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:21 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.