I’m glad you finally realized it would take a much bigger collapse for us to come calling to Canada at least. Hopefully you all can take advantage of the automatic bid and finally get your first World Cup group point in a couple years. LMAO

They've lost every single world cup game they've played in (which is a grand total of 6).

2 World Cup appearances in their history is absolute trash. Their performance in those world cups is even worse LMAO

what a great hire. we're so lucky chelsea is run by absolute idiots and they let him go. if you only count the 2nd half of the prem season, poch actually had chelsea as the 3rd best team. of course they gave him no time to keep building though.

Almost like Canada is a small country with none of its top athletes who play soccer and with effectively no funding that goes to soccer (the federation itself has been close to bankruptcy in recent years and they couldn't afford to even hire their current coach without being subsidized by Canadian MLS teams).

And yet, despite their much smaller talent pool and limited resources, they're still ranked ahead of the USA in ELO right now. What does that say about the American program? LMAO

Those comments speak volumes, don't you think?

They really do. He sounds like he actually thought he had a chance to get the job during the search and he’s still super bitter that he didn’t get a chance. I’m glad he was able to land on his feet somewhere after he fizzled out at Leeds, but he was never going to be the answer for the USMNT. Not during such a critical time for the future of the sport in this country. A lateral move from Berhalter to Marsch would have never solved anything. Like I said when you originally posted this nonsense- the USMNT needed to make a big splash and Jesse Marsch is nothing more than a skipping rock on a small puddle. Never dreamed it would work out this well, though. Poch was definitely the best available candidate and somehow the USMNT didn’t **** it up.

Yes, because for decades us soccer leadership was in lockstep with mls leadership and they were more interested in growing mls than building the best national team. Jurgen had his flaws as a coach but he was absolutely right about the awful decision to blackball players overseas. It took an embarrassing exit to fix that shit but then instead of bringing in the best possible coach we brought in an MLS guy and then we rigged the system to keep him after an "unbiased" coaching search. Internationally experienced players for an MLS coach.

And we still feel the impact of that shit show. We didn't have veterans because our talent development in the prior generation was atrocious. Our best guys were young and raw but that's really bad when your most experienced vets are so bad they aren't even being considered. I've heard this be called the Lost Generation

And don't even get me started on pay to play which looms especially large in a sport that costs nothing to play and when we have to compete internationally with countries who don't do this

Pay to play is absolutely a problem but blaming MLS for that is silly.

I was told once we get MLS trash out the US was really going to thrive but all they have done is is underperform meanwhile some of our best results in our history have been achieved with an MLS heavy core of players.

Hey things change and systems evolve I want the best players regardless of league but you guys still blaming MLS for everything is so disingenuous.

Canada is not a small country. It’s bigger than the US.

It’s just no one wants to live there.

We’ve gone over this, our history trounces yours. In fact, it’s not even close. We were in the round of 16 in the World Cup, how did you guys do?

You're nuttier than a maple log from Tim Hortons. The sarcastic post was obviously referring to population size, not landmass. And event then the landmass is only 1.6 percent larger in area.

I think the next cycle we will get a better read on the mls impact. Our young guys will become veterans and will replace the "lost generation" veterans. We won't have berhalter, an MLS holdover. That helps a ton.

Agreed that from there it's probably not nearly enough. And that there are also bigger problems biggest being our youth development programs. That has nothing to do with mls and I hope people don't think that this divorce by itself is a fix all

Me coming here to talk Soccer. Seeing the discussions in the thread and realizing it was a mistake.

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc...W8FA/giphy.gif

Someone needs to read the entire post.

I addressed the population

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