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vailpass 10-17-2017 01:00 PM

This is nuts...

Photos: The secret Swiss mountain bunker where millionaires stash their bitcoins

Attinghausen, Switzerland
I’m being driven along the eastern shore of Lake Lucerne when my guide points out our destination. “The bunker is in one of those mountains,” says Maxim Kon, gesturing at a fog shrouded peak on the opposite shore as he pilots his BMW convertible.
Kon is taking me to see one of the vaults where Xapo, the company he works for, stores its customers’ bitcoins. It’s no ordinary vault: I’ve been told it’s inside a decommissioned Swiss military bunker dug into a granite mountain. Its precise location is secret, and access is limited by security measures that would put a Bond villain to shame.

Kon won’t tell me how much bitcoin is stored in the vault, but he says he sometimes takes customers with “millions” of dollars worth of the cryptocurrency stored with Xapo to tour the vault. It’s odd to think of a virtual currency needing physical storage, but just like your most precious photos, even a cryptocurrency needs some kind of material container. Xapo’s founder is the Argentinian entrepreneur Wences Casares, the “patient zero” of bitcoin among Silicon Valley’s elite. It was Casares who gave tech luminaries like Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman their first bitcoins.

A bitcoin vault doesn’t store actual bitcoin units. Technically, what’s being stored are private, cryptographic keys. These keys form a pair with particular, public-facing, keys and provide access to the balance of coins stored on the bitcoin network. Gaining unauthorized access to someone’s private keys is akin to making off with a gold bar.

Stories of hackers finding their way through even the best secured accounts are legion, and it’s ironic that bank-like methods have to be used to keep cryptocurrencies safe. If someone gets hold of your private key, there’s no way to claw the funds back or demand a refund. That’s why a firm like Xapo that stores bitcoin is a juicy target for hackers—and why it requires paranoiac levels of security... (cont'd.)

https://qz.com/1103310/photos-the-se...heir-bitcoins/

Jewish Rabbi 10-20-2017 02:00 PM

BTC just broke $6000

Ming the Merciless 10-20-2017 02:43 PM

totally crazy!

BWillie 10-30-2017 01:29 PM

$6115 for the bitcoin. I still have alot of bitcion, but invested a little too much in shitcoins. But still 90% of my crypto is in Bitcoin.

Alot of people I trust seem to think it's going to go up even more after the Segwit2x fork. Although, I feel like people are now saavy enough to see how bitcoin reacted after past forks and perhaps everyone is just scurrying to get bitcoin right now to ensure they get their free coins after the fork.

teedubya 10-30-2017 01:42 PM

This has been a fun ride. Should have bought more back in the day when ChiefRocka created this thread.

On another note, my podcast Bad Crypto has almost 500,000 downloads in the first 100 days... people are definitely figuring this space out now.

here's the first episode... http://badco.in/001

It feels like around 1995 of the internet, at this point.

Many people haven't figured it out yet... and we all should have listened to Chief Rocka sooner. :-)

scho63 10-30-2017 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13184467)
$6115 for the bitcoin. I still have alot of bitcion, but invested a little too much in shitcoins. But still 90% of my crypto is in Bitcoin.

Alot of people I trust seem to think it's going to go up even more after the Segwit2x fork. Although, I feel like people are now saavy enough to see how bitcoin reacted after past forks and perhaps everyone is just scurrying to get bitcoin right now to ensure they get their free coins after the fork.

Why not peel off a little along the way in case it collapses? :hmmm:

Sell (1) at $6,000K

Sell another at $6,500 or $5,500 whichever comes first

Can you sell fractional pieces?

ChiefRocka 10-30-2017 04:58 PM

GRID+

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwkjAXom_6U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFx74jecwNc

Jewish Rabbi 10-31-2017 09:19 PM

China is back trading BTC. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 7k soon. Although I am worried what happens to the price if S2X happens.

BossChief 11-01-2017 08:44 AM

Bitcoin 6550
Ethereum 302

MagicHef 11-01-2017 09:06 AM

If I wanted to start investing in cryptocurrencies starting right now, which would be the best for future growth?

Aspengc8 11-01-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 13184910)


Good theory. problem I see is the distributors and retailers are typically the same company. So how would they get them to 'buy in' and charge customers less?

scho63 11-01-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 13190861)
If I wanted to start investing in cryptocurrencies starting right now, which would be the best for future growth?

This is a warning sign when someone who never discusses investments wants to now get in......usually the end not the beginning

MagicHef 11-01-2017 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 13190883)
This is a warning sign when someone who never discusses investments wants to now get in......usually the end not the beginning

I've never been a harbinger of doom before. Kind of fun.

TambaBerry 11-01-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 13190943)
I've never been a harbinger of doom before. Kind of fun.

if we knew that we would be making a ton of money. You just have to research all the coins. I am personally still big on Ethereum making a run like bitcoin has but it will just take years for that too happen.

lewdog 11-01-2017 05:38 PM

If you invested $10,000 into Bitcoin just 7 years ago, you would have $700 MILLION now.




That's pretty crazy. Good luck to those making money on this.


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