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duncan_idaho 06-02-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10665853)
Glad we never tried to move any of those pitching prospects. First chance we get that Zimmer shows he's healthy, please trade him.

Immediately.

They DID trade a few of them. Lamb has never really been tradeable because of the timing of his injury.

But the return on the Odorizzi and Montgomery side of things is not awful... Odorizzi looks like he might be a fringe back end guy. Montgomery is starting to pitch decently at AAA but still can't throw a breaking pitch for strikes and has lost some zip on his FB.

Wade Davis was a disaster as a SP but is a bullpen weapon. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded in the offseason... $7 million is too much for your setup man, but it's not bad for a closer (especially with backup options of $8 million and $10 million, which are very reasonable if he continues to be a bullpen warrior).

DeezNutz 06-02-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10666013)
They DID trade a few of them. Lamb has never really been tradeable because of the timing of his injury.

But the return on the Odorizzi and Montgomery side of things is not awful... Odorizzi looks like he might be a fringe back end guy. Montgomery is starting to pitch decently at AAA but still can't throw a breaking pitch for strikes and has lost some zip on his FB.

Wade Davis was a disaster as a SP but is a bullpen weapon. I wouldn't be surprised to see him traded in the offseason... $7 million is too much for your setup man, but it's not bad for a closer (especially with backup options of $8 million and $10 million, which are very reasonable if he continues to be a bullpen warrior).

Montgomery was traded when he had virtually no value, so I'm really not counting that. When he was at his peak value, he should have been moved.

Since this team is a dumpster fire and in need of a new GM with a clue, I'd love to see DM canned, the new guy brought it, and I'm immediately looking to deal Holland and Shields at the deadline if I can get a strong return.

I'm not making the Soria Mistake II.

duncan_idaho 06-02-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10666042)
Montgomery was traded when he had virtually no value, so I'm really not counting that. When he was at his peak value, he should have been moved.

Since this team is a dumpster fire and in need of a new GM with a clue, I'd love to see DM canned, the new guy brought it, and I'm immediately looking to deal Holland and Shields at the deadline if I can get a strong return.

I'm not making the Soria Mistake II.

You won't find any team or GM in baseball who is aggressive about trading 20-year-old top 20 pitching prospects. Especially not 6-6 lefties who sit 94-95 and already have a plus changeup. Especially not when his team is not competing for something.

Trevor Bauer is about the only top 20 pitching prospect I can remember being traded of late, and that was Kevin Towers, the man who brought us a bunch of dumbshit trades.

I think it's extreme hindsight to say the Royals should have traded either of Lamb or Montgomery entering the 2011 season.

I have no problem with moving Holland for the right return (young, good, everyday player or starting pitcher) either in-season or in the offseason. YOu don't need both Holland and Wade Davis on this team.

CaliforniaChief 06-02-2014 04:26 PM

Last year, I was hoping that we would move Holland for Joc Pederson. The Dodgers have a stacked outfield, and their bullpen needed help. They're in must-win-now mode.

Pederson has outplayed that trade this year, but he would be a great get.

C3HIEF3S 06-02-2014 04:31 PM

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KCCHIEFS27 06-02-2014 04:38 PM

So, the team is contemplating a run at Kendrys Morales, but would first have to offload some money via trade most likely. We claimed Blake Wood through waivers from the Indians, as well. Who exactly are we battling to sign Morales? I don't think any other team needs a bat right now as bad as us. They struck out by not signing Nelson Cruz and now we are going to have to settle for this guy if we want any pop.

duncan_idaho 06-02-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10666060)
Last year, I was hoping that we would move Holland for Joc Pederson. The Dodgers have a stacked outfield, and their bullpen needed help. They're in must-win-now mode.

Pederson has outplayed that trade this year, but he would be a great get.

Damn, already has 15 HR ... even playing home games in Albequerque in the PCL, that's a lot.

It's a smart target. Something they MIGHT do... Puig and Crawford and Ethier are probably not going anywhere. I'd be willing to add to the trade if necessary, but Holland's value should be very high.

duncan_idaho 06-02-2014 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCCHIEFS27 (Post 10666090)
So, the team is contemplating a run at Kendrys Morales, but would first have to offload some money via trade most likely. We claimed Blake Wood through waivers from the Indians, as well. Who exactly are we battling to sign Morales? I don't think any other team needs a bat right now as bad as us. They struck out by not signing Nelson Cruz and now we are going to have to settle for this guy if we want any pop.

I don't know what the plan is if you bring in Morales. He's a worse baserunner than Butler (unless he's lost the weight he gained after shattering his ankle), and is really a DH only guy.

Would probably mean you have to move Butler in a trade of some sort, but not sure who would want him (or what you would get) at this point.

ChiTown 06-02-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10666103)
I don't know what the plan is if you bring in Morales. He's a worse baserunner than Butler (unless he's lost the weight he gained after shattering his ankle), and is really a DH only guy.

Would probably mean you have to move Butler in a trade of some sort, but not sure who would want him (or what you would get) at this point.

I'd say they are about the same - in both categories. What you get is more power, which this Team desperately needs.

Chief_For_Life58 06-02-2014 05:00 PM

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Sure-Oz 06-02-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10665879)
Brooks was top 10 in ERA in the PCL and was 4-1. Everything looked okay what he was doing in Triple A. Emergency starter you normally call somebody up and that is what he did. Just got his shit pushed in. Sucks but that is baseball. Hell even if Zimmer was healthy I don't think they would have burned one start and service time for an emergency start.

40ip 24k told me enough....can't strike out shit in AAA you probably suck

Sure-Oz 06-02-2014 05:37 PM

Apparently GMDM looking to kick the tires on Kendrys Morales but would require a trade of a guy on a roster

Anyong Bluth 06-03-2014 09:56 AM

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Anyong Bluth 06-03-2014 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10665875)
Who is trading for Zimmer at this point?

"You say he has shoulder and elbow problems? Sign me up!"







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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10665896)
Probably no one.

If we did he'd almost be certain to end up an Ace... /Royals

Deberg_1990 06-03-2014 01:52 PM

I wish they would just give Butler some roids.

Don't care if he hits .235 as long as he's boppin 30 HRs
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