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Tribal Warfare 12-19-2024 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17864821)
Or the fumble and INT balls that were both lucky as hell on that final drive. KC defense let him off the hook on those plays.
Dalton Kincaid was involved batting the ball of bounds that wasn't called illegal touching/ progress of football when there was a scrum for it.

Straight, No Chaser 12-19-2024 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 17864439)
Gotta love how ESPN will bash the Chiefs for "almost losing" games but then hype Baltimore who has actually lost 5 games this year
The Ravens beat the Chiefs at Arrowhead 27-7, ending Kansas City's hopes of a three-peat.

Well, if you want to be stupid you could place bets purely based on ESPN's Football Power Index (FPI). They run 10,000 simulations to come up with results. AI is not your eye.

Deberg_1990 12-19-2024 06:35 AM
I love Josh Allen. Some of it is he’s been a victim of circumstance. If him
And Mahomes were swapped, the last few years, Allen would have won a title or two by now. He will win one eventually. He’s a stud.

Deberg_1990 12-19-2024 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17864418)
ESPN is predicting Baltimore to beat KC in Playoffs and Buffalo to win the Super Bowl. Gonna be hilarious if they are wrong.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-59-2025-draft
That had to have been written by Rex Ryan.

RealSNR 12-19-2024 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17864858)
I love Josh Allen. Some of it is he’s been a victim of circumstance. If him
And Mahomes were swapped, the last few years, Allen would have won a title or two by now. He will win one eventually. He’s a stud.
"It's not his fault!"

Like I said, it never is his fault. I just don't care anymore.

New World Order 12-19-2024 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17864858)
I love Josh Allen. Some of it is he’s been a victim of circumstance. If him
And Mahomes were swapped, the last few years, Allen would have won a title or two by now. He will win one eventually. He’s a stud.
Victim of circumstance.

Nyuk nyuk nyuk

RaidersOftheCellar 12-19-2024 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17864820)
It’s amazing.

Patrick Mahomes is 13-1 immediately after the two most impressive feats of his career (MVP and Super Bowl season as an expensive QB without Tyreek Hill and setting a yardage record; Super Bowl repeat with arguably the toughest path ever through the postseason), and people feel the need to debate who is the best QB in the league.
I can see how someone could watch Allen at his best and think he’s better than Mahomes, particularly this season, but what cracks me up is the inconsistency in logic. We’re not allowed to rate Mahomes above Brady until he has 200 Super Bowl trophies, but it’s okay to elevate a much less accomplished QB over Mahomes every time he strings together a few good games.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-19-2024 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17864902)
I can see how someone could watch Allen at his best and think he’s better than Mahomes, particularly this season, but what cracks me up is the inconsistency in logic. We’re not allowed to rate Mahomes above Brady until he has 200 Super Bowl trophies, but it’s okay to elevate a much less accomplished QB over Mahomes every time he strings together a few good games.
Yep... forever and always we people will have their heels dug into their stances on those discussions.

Mahomes could win 10 and Pats fans are always gonna say Brady was better because of head-to-head. Chiefs fans are always going to say Mahomes was the best player of all time. Bills fans.... you get it.

I guess it's just fun to have a guy in the conversation who is actually getting the hardware for the team while he's at it.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-19-2024 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17864858)
I love Josh Allen. Some of it is he’s been a victim of circumstance. If him
And Mahomes were swapped, the last few years, Allen would have won a title or two by now. He will win one eventually. He’s a stud.
Even if swapped, I don’t see Allen winning more than maybe 1. And it’s kind of hard to find one, tbh. I doubt he wins with that path and those receivers last season. I don’t see him winning an AFCC with MVS as his top WR (MVS did less than nothing for the Bills this year). He’s not beating the Bucs with that OL in 2020. 2019 or 2021 seem like his best chances, but he wasn’t a very accurate thrower yet in 2019, and average overall at that point. Maybe he gets it done in 2021, but that’s very iffy, considering he completely wet the bed vs the same Bengals defense the next season.

RunKC 12-19-2024 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17864443)
No. Because talent isn't just size and arm.


Mahomes mental traits far superior to Allen and those are talent traits too.

Mahomes schools Allen in mental processing, throwing with anticipation, accuracy. Mahomes is also the best off-platform thrower the NFL has ever seen combined with his crazy vision seeing where people will open into space.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Allen, Lamar, Burrow, the best season of their individual careers would be the worst season of Patrick’s.”<a href="https://twitter.com/getnickwright?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@getnickwright</a> says Mahomes is without a doubt the best QB in the league: <a href="https://t.co/a6WpMsdKe0">pic.twitter.com/a6WpMsdKe0</a></p>&mdash; What’s Wright? with Nick Wright (@WhatsWrightShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/WhatsWrightShow/status/1869175817080819977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 18, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Joe Brady has done wonders for helping Josh Allen’s processing and decision making. Mahomes is simply more clutch and that’s the difference between the two.

Again, comparing anyone playing today to Mahomes simply isn’t fair bc it’s an impossible standard. Nobody has ever started their career like Patrick. Not even Brady.

If Mahomes wasn’t an option and you had to choose what QB to put on your team you’re 100% choosing Josh Allen. No other QB from QB2 to the field comes close to Josh Allen right now.

ptlyon 12-19-2024 09:36 AM
All this Allen ball nibbling. Meh.

When it comes to crunch time, and Allen locks up, and he will, they will be eliminated from the playoffs before seeing us.

You know it's gonna happen.

TEX 12-19-2024 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17864964)
All this Allen ball nibbling. Meh.

When it comes to crunch time, and Allen locks up, and he will, they will be eliminated from the playoffs before seeing us.

You know it's gonna happen.
Oh, I don't know about that. He's only been sacked 13 times. He has all day to throw. He does not have to think too much this year. Look no further than that as to why he's having the year he's having.
Every time I watch him play, I think it would be nice if Mahomes had as much time to throw the football.

tredadda 12-19-2024 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17864665)
Oh, i see. We're talking about something that takes 22+ people to accomplish.

Carry on.
Would you prefer individual accolades then? He does have two MVPs as well.

Also he has never finished a season with a record that Burrow will this season.

MAG 12-19-2024 10:19 AM
The Bills are very, very good and it's hard to see any team but us or the Ravens beating them in the AFC.

However, their defense has shown to be pretty torchable if Mahomes can get his shit together in the playoffs.

RaidersOftheCellar 12-19-2024 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17864964)
All this Allen ball nibbling. Meh.

When it comes to crunch time, and Allen locks up, and he will, they will be eliminated from the playoffs before seeing us.

You know it's gonna happen.
If they play Baltimore, yes, there's a very good chance they're bounced.


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