Not in the media markets they bring. I think he is saying that its stupid to think its only about viewers in your area its also about ratings.

Actually from what Ive read, the Big East would take Iowa State and Kansas, that would leave KSU with the MWC

For what it's worth, KK is reporting that MU has been rebuffed by the Big 10 and they're scrambling in Columbia about what to do.

His scenario (from his sources) is that this has been a Big 10/Pac 10 football power power-grab all along. Nebraska to the Big Ten and the Pac 10 gets the Texas/Oklahoma teams. ND still seems to be in the mix and if they join the Big 10 Nebraska may be out.

Take if for what it's worth.

So, question:

If MU and Neb leave the Big 12, then Texas carries through with its threats and dissolves its backyard league (big 12) and joins the Pac-10... does that mean Neb and MU don't have to pay to buyout their contracts since there is no Big 12 to pay?

Ouch.

Yeah, kinda knew that MU would not be getting an invite to the Big 10. If they had a brand like Neb maybe but it's just too much to split the pie with a school that doesn't really bring them anything in the end.

Which is "nothing".

EDIT: I'm saying KK is a ****ing idiot who's less informed than any reader of this thread. Not trying to talk smack on you.

Is this from his very reliable sources?

They bring eyeballs from around the country. It's one of the most storied CFB teams in the history of the sport.

Of course he also said he had no sources (i.e. talking out his ass).

After all of the shit MUrons have been talking I would find it ****ing hilarious if they didn't get invited to the Big 10 :D

I will bet you casino cash that doesn't happen.

Hilarious cause KU fans would be too classy not to say crap if the tides were turned.

Interesting, thanks for posting

I have seen many takes on the Baskball programs. What are some takes for Football. Who are the top 5 teams?

Here is my list

1. Oklahoma
2. Notre Dame
3. Ohio State
4. USC
5. Nebraska

Nothing official has come out yet. I still think MU would make a lot of sense for B10.

At least we will all have CHIEFS FOOTBALL!

It wouldn't surprise me if MU got left out of the B10. But it would surprise me if KK had the story.

Remember, this is the guy who a couple of weeks ago had MU (and NU) to the B10 as a done deal. They had been offered already. Got him cited by ESPN and everything.

And how's that KC-NFL drug ring story coming along?

He's a clown. If he's right about this, it's only by accident or coincidence. He's probably using as his "source" that juicy Tigerboard posting.

So, what if only Nebraska leaves? It seems apparent that would be just as bad as if Nebraska and Missouri left.

This has been my whole point the entire time you guys have been calling KU fans arrogant douchebags. :)

He has sources, I'm not sure he mentioned them. The worst part is that since 7 teams are leaving the Big 12 there's very little recourse the other 5 teams have since it essentially dissolves the Big 12. He did say he knew they were scrambling in Columbia. I'm sure he has sources there.

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KK is just as bad as Athan.

I don't dislike all KU fans though :) Some are DB's but as is with any fan base

KK is basically repeating the post from tigerboard that waa reported here a couple of pages back.

What I'm saying there is that there has to be a reason for his butthurtedness over something that he proudly proclaims "doesn't make any difference to him because he's unbiased". That was my best guess, and makes perfect sense.

My being better than him has absolutely nothing to do with where we went to school.

Oh yeah, 100% agreed. I've said it multiple times. They're both charlatans praying on the stupid. At least KK doesn't charge for his garbage.

well if just one left, and the Texas schools all stayed you could fill Nebraska's spot with BYU or someone like that

Yes, he identified his sources on this matter...

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Dan Beebe at Reverse last night.

LMAO

You go, Skip.

Well then.....the deal is most certainly done.

Arrogant people suck.

Oklahoma #1? What? If we're talking historically, I'd put both Notre Dame & Alabama ahead of OU, ohio state, and Nebraska.

This. :clap:

then why are you an MU fan?

Oh no doubt.

I'd say about 99% of what KK says is pure BS with very little, if anything, to back it up.

KK is really spewing it today. Wonder if it's a Arbitron ratings week?
He's like the Katie Horner of the BCS...

Wow... KK sounds like nut, huge conspiracy theory.... THEY KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN! THEY'D BEEN PLANNING THIS THE WHOLE TIME! THE GIRL IN THE CRYING GAME ISN'T A GIRL! BRUCE WILLIS IS DEAD THE WHOLE TIME IN THE SIXTH SENSE!

You've "kinda known" a lot of things in this thread.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3849468

Both Bama & Notre Dame have more Championships than OU. Bama has Championships in 6 different decades. Notre Dame has 'em in 7.

Both are better, more storied programs.

Yeah, it pretty much depends on whether the whole Pac10 thing was a bluff.

No Mizzou up there?.... what the hell they've been to a few North title games, how could you leave them off ROFL

And what are Alabama's 13 national championships? Chopped liver?

Interesting read on the academic considerations in conference realignment...

The landscape of college athletics could shift dramatically in the coming weeks, as the Big Ten and Pacific-10 Conferences consider expanding their membership. While the exact shape of the realignment is unclear, it will likely make geography even less meaningful as an organizing principle than it has been since previous rounds of conference expansion in the 1990s and 2000s, and further consolidate power in a small number of conferences. Watchdogs of college sports caution that this is a losing prospect for higher education, both athletically and academically.

Continued at:
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2...09/conferences

Exactly. His source picked OU #1 because of their conference dominance. Who gives a crap about that except within the conference? Show me the Championships.. that's what counts.

ROFL

i don't agree with him about most of it either

KK - Texas and Nebraska in it together???

makes no sense ... Texas wants the the status quo, Nebraska is looking for a better deal.

KK - if Notre Dame goes to the Big 10 then the Big 10 goes beyond 12 teams and the Big 12 disolves.

completely disagree, Notre Dame going to the Big 10 is the one thing that keeps the Big 12 together.

KK - best thing for KSU is for the lawmakers in Kansas to force KSU and KU together.

ok ... yea, this is the best for KSU but it screws KU and he can **** off and die in a fire.

LOL KK is saying this isn't osbornes decision.

Personally I think it is a bluff, but I've been wrong many many times before

I really don't care all that much. I just searched google and used the espn rankings except I flipped ND and USC.

I've had that feeling since the story came out too. The timing is a little too coincidental.

well technically, he's correct is he not?

Yeah, I've never understood the "keep the two together." My understanding is there's nothing about keeping them together, but if there's a chance they will split the Board of Regents will have a say. Who knows what that means?

I read an article that claimed BigO decided to stay in the B12 after all, but it was out of his hands at that point in time as the decision has been made by people above him.

Let me help you with a little thing called perspective.

I was refering to a guy who is certain that he has more prowess at football talent evaluation than people who are actually paid to perform the service.

Again, I said a guy who watches reruns of games on NFLN or tivo thinks he knows more about pro athletes, and the evaluation of them than guys who have been in the industry all of their lives, who live and breathe the game, and who, after years of working their way up the ranks of coaching, finally get a break, and make it to the big leagues.

This is also the same guy who, after professing his opinion is "unbiased" on the subject of MCBB, proceeds to attempt the tearing down of one of the most prestigeous programs in the history of the sport. All the while, fluffing an MU program that has done nothing of consequence in ANY field of sporting endevor, and out of the other side of his face claiming not to have an emotional affiliation with said program.

It's only my opinion, but I think I'm better than a person under that sort of delusion. Please feel free to change my mind if you think you're capable.

Nothing to do with fandom. I can't stand people who say they are better than others, period. Yes, we can argue which school is better, etc, but to say one person is better than another.... :grr:

He owns the state.

Board of Regents informally agree to go to the Big Ten

I read the same article, said that TO was getting cold feet, so his superiors made the choice for him

I think you forgot an 't in there somewhere. :D

My biggest fear is the Kansas Board of Regents screwing KU up the ass with their gavel.

if the Big 12 implodes then KU should go to the ACC/Big East and KSU should go take Boise St place in the MWC.

Yeah, the board has already claimed that they would like to keep the two schools together ideally, but they were not going to force anything. In other words, it's every man for himself as far they're concerned.

I think that would be the best scenario if big12 sinks for both schools IMO

Honestly, it should be a matter of if only one team (either one) can get into a BCS conference, they should allow it even without the other.

Not even close to an overstatement there. Attended a friend's wedding in Columbus last year. Even the women talk about TO (this is what they all called him) like he's the second coming of Jesus.

Another Nebraska homer on 810 right now.

"It's DEF that Neb is going..."

KK: "Not is ND joins.."

At this point I think even KU would leave KSU behind. And that's really unfortunate.

the problem i see is that KU isn't strong enough to force a package deal. I'm worry these big conferences will just move on instead of messes with trying to fit KSU or pry away KU.

Yeah, reread and got it.

I hate it when I do that...lol.

LOL, that's what MU/KU is all about... KU fans talk about trophies and success, then MU fans act like they're superior people.

Lane works for Nebraska you idiot. And he didn't say that.

Maybe I should have placed the nothing to do with fandom in bold print.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/...ss/?tigerextra

Over the next two days, the University of Missouri’s Board of Curators will meet and surely discuss the possibility of switching from the Big 12 to the Big Ten. If parliamentary procedure is followed, that discussion should take 10 seconds.

All in favor? Aye. Next on the agenda …

Not that leaving behind ancient associates/rivals from the old Big Eight is cause for celebration. Not that leaving a very advantageous football and basketball position in the weak half of a powerful conference is without consequence. Not that football recruiting in Texas won’t suffer.

But you gotta do what you gotta do. If the Big Ten offers, Missouri would be nuts to say no. It’s just a better financial deal than the Big 12 — for the school and the athletic department. Everyone involved in conference realignment is acting solely on self-interest, and a home in a stable conference whose federal grant money and football TV revenue dwarfs the Big 12’s is in Missouri’s best interest.

That is the bizarre thing about the Big 12’s ultimatum to Missouri and Nebraska. They must declare allegiance. Or else? Or else everyone else in the league with another offer is going defect. It confirms the dysfunction of the relationship in the first place. Of course Missouri and Nebraska are going to leave if they get the chance. This process wouldn’t have gone this far if they didn’t want to leave and didn’t have a pretty good idea they would be invited.

A last-minute decision by Notre Dame to join the Big Ten could leave Missouri and/or Nebraska in the lurch, but committing to the Big 12 is no less risky and a lot less rewardy — if Big Ten Commissioner Jim Delany can make up words like “executy” in his cryptic e-mails, so can I. Who’s to say half the Big 12 won’t decide to bolt in the near future regardless of what Missouri and Nebraska do? If we learned anything during the conference realignment saga, it is to trust no one.

I mean, is Texas interested in keeping the Big 12 intact out of loyalty? No, it’s because Texas officials were smart and powerful enough to dictate the terms of the league when it formed and the conference has been a good platform for the Longhorns to succeed in every sport. The Big 12 has worked for Texas, and Texas wants the status quo. There’s nothing wrong with that motivation, but let’s not confuse it with loyalty.

This story has been propelled by information from anonymous and occasionally imaginary sources. What smiling school and conference officials say into microphones and what they mean are unrelated. Despite the scarcity of unbiased information, the reputations of the key players have been redefined throughout the process — almost universally for the worse.

The Big 12’s Dan Beebe is the read-and-react commissioner who is getting outfoxed by his more aggressive rivals, such as Delany and the Pac-10’s Larry Scott. When Beebe took over three years ago, he inherited all the problems that would drive his league apart — a mediocre television contract, unequal revenue sharing, resentment from the old Big Eight schools that Texas wields too much power in the Big 12 — but he hasn’t come up with any proactive solutions. The lingering image from last week’s conference meetings was of Beebe fleeing reporters into an elevator after he was blindsided by the news that the Pac-10, with whom he planned a partnership that would save the Big 12, was more interested in a hostile takeover.

Proud institutions are now routinely deemed academically inferior by talk-show hosts who would be overmatched by an entry-level math course. Texas Tech was considered a “problem” that would have to be solved or swallowed in order for the Big Ten to land Texas, according to an e-mail from Ohio State President Gordon Gee to Delany. By virtue of geography, population and lack of football tradition, Iowa State, Kansas and Kansas State have been labeled as the Big 12’s losers. Baylor and Colorado are hoping to avoid that fate by being the throw-in on a six-school exodus to the Pac-10.

As for Missouri’s portrayal in the media, it has changed drastically in six months. In December, Athletic Director Mike Alden complained publicly about revenue sharing and the blown opportunity for a Big 12 Network. He was voicing the frustrations of several of his Big 12 North brethren. Chancellor Brady Deaton and President Gary Forsee suggested MU would be willing to listen to Big Ten offers. Missouri’s academic attributes, including its membership in the prestigious American Association of Universities, were highlighted. Missouri’s value to the Big Ten as a state with 2.2 million households ready to subscribe to the Big Ten Network was duly noted.

More recently, though, Missouri has been characterized as underachieving, overcomplaining and just plain irrelevant — some have suggested Nebraska’s decision alone will determine whether the Big 12 continues or collapses.

What changed? Well, it wasn’t anything Missouri officials said. They haven’t said anything more substantive than, “We are a proud member of the Big 12 Conference,” on or off the record in months. But the rest of the Big 12 continues to talk, often anonymously, and that view is being repeated.
That’s just the price for not playing the media’s game. Reporters tend to champion the causes of those who call them back. Journalism abhors a vacuum.

In the end, it doesn’t make much difference anyway. What the media and the rest of the Big 12 think of Missouri has become a moot point. What the Big Ten decision-makers think is what matters.

Reach Joe Walljasper at 573-815-1783 or e-mail jwalljasper@columbiatribune.com.

Well now later in the interview he's pulled back a bit.

KU fans don't claim to be superior to MU fans. We claim our school is superior. Maybe one day, the whole lot of you will get it. It's not arrogance to expect to win when that's all your team has been doing throughout the history of the sport. It's not arrogance to bring up the trophies. That's Bearcat's point. The only people who claim KU fans feel superior to MU fans are MU fans.

The hype before the Nebraska-Texas game in Lincoln is going to be wild.

http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/the...s_super_league

FYP

KU would do fine in the Big East in football as well.

With an automatic bid in place Turner Gill takes em to the promised land.

Don't like only half the teams play football?