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ChiefsCountry 04-24-2025 12:00 PM

My sneaky Bart trade up pick is for Will Johnson. He was a legit top 5 pick but some injury concerns and teams over thinking. That seems like the move Veetch would make.

RunKC 04-24-2025 12:01 PM

Also…am I crazy for thinking I’d rather trade up from 63 than 31?

Harmon falling due to medicals
Burden likely being there
Henderson might be there

Seems like there’s so much value this year. Good as players in abundance. But it feels like a drop off might happen at DT around our pick at 63 based on who we might like (ahem Josh Farmer) and at WR it’s already a drop but maybe one of last options for a weapon like Arroyo or Noel as a weapon.

duncan_idaho 04-24-2025 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 18040089)
Also…am I crazy for thinking I’d rather trade up from 63 than 31?

Harmon falling due to medicals
Burden likely being there
Henderson might be there

Seems like there’s so much value this year. Good as players in abundance. But it feels like a drop off might happen at DT around our pick at 63 based on who we might like (ahem Josh Farmer) and at WR it’s already a drop but maybe one of last options for a weapon like Arroyo or Noel as a weapon.

I think we see action involving 63 or 66. Either moving BACK from 63, or up from 63.

Shoot, I think there's a decent chance we see action at BOTH of those picks. Move up 10-12 spots from 63, move back 10-12 spots from 66.

Kiimo 04-24-2025 12:28 PM

Another thing about Burden I feel like some posters here are thinking he's only worth taking if he's a bonafide WR 1 and I'm like nah he makes our receiving room amazing you have two guys to can work in and out of the slot getting hard catches and adding a ton of yards after the catch then you have two guys in Worthy and Hollywood who have jets.

I'm pushing hard for that to be a reality. I think it could be and it would be AMAZING. And we need it when Kelce is gone.

duncan_idaho 04-24-2025 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18040131)
Another thing about Burden I feel like some posters here are thinking he's only worth taking if he's a bonafide WR 1 and I'm like nah he makes our receiving room amazing you have two guys to can work in and out of the slot getting hard catches and adding a ton of yards after the catch then you have two guys in Worthy and Hollywood who have jets.

I'm pushing hard for that to be a reality. I think it could be and it would be AMAZING. And we need it when Kelce is gone.

Burden is also fast enough to be a real threat down the field in the 3x1 sets if he's left 1x1 either out of the stack or as the isolated player.

A WR room of Burden, Worthy, and Rice would let you evolve your offense without really evolving it.

Rice becomes your Kelce replacement. We saw at the start of the year that he can do a lot of the things that Kelce did/does. Obviously, the YAC. But he's really crafty at finding spots in zones, and he's got the short-area quickness and slippery-ness to create short separation.

Worthy is obviously your prime deep threat and is a really dangerous player in screens just because of how fast he is and how he can destroy pursuit angles. Over time, he's going to become more of an intermediate threat, too, because of his ability to break off the deep threat routes.

And then you have Burden, who is a YAC monster himself, but who also has great hands, can catch outside his frame, has the speed to get deep, can high-point the ball against single coverage, and really be what KC envisioned with Sammy Watkins.

nychief 04-24-2025 12:46 PM

I love all the Burden love... I do. But it's too painful...because we aren't going draft him.

Womble 04-24-2025 12:46 PM

This is the first year in a while that I'd okay with Verch trading down out of the 1st round. Probably should have done the same in 2023 but there was no way we were trading out of the 1st round with the draft being held in KC.

wazu 04-24-2025 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 18040162)
I love all the Burden love... I do. But it's too painful...because we aren't going draft him.

Is this real?

https://i.ibb.co/rGTyDBcy/burden.png

Pitt Gorilla 04-24-2025 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18040150)
Burden is also fast enough to be a real threat down the field in the 3x1 sets if he's left 1x1 either out of the stack or as the isolated player.

A WR room of Burden, Worthy, and Rice would let you evolve your offense without really evolving it.

Rice becomes your Kelce replacement. We saw at the start of the year that he can do a lot of the things that Kelce did/does. Obviously, the YAC. But he's really crafty at finding spots in zones, and he's got the short-area quickness and slippery-ness to create short separation.

Worthy is obviously your prime deep threat and is a really dangerous player in screens just because of how fast he is and how he can destroy pursuit angles. Over time, he's going to become more of an intermediate threat, too, because of his ability to break off the deep threat routes.

And then you have Burden, who is a YAC monster himself, but who also has great hands, can catch outside his frame, has the speed to get deep, can high-point the ball against single coverage, and really be what KC envisioned with Sammy Watkins.

Add Burden to the current WRs and tackle matters that much less. Those guys are getting open and can't all be covered.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-24-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 18040162)
I love all the Burden love... I do. But it's too painful...because we aren't going draft him.

What makes you so sure? The Chiefs seem to have realized they need to start surrounding Mahomes with more weapons. Case in point; they let Justin Watson walk and kept Hollywood and JuJu. Do you have any idea how much Andy Reid loves Justin Watson? :D

Seriously, If Burden is there, you have a shot to give Mahomes a trio of Worthy, Rice and Burden for at least the next 2 full seasons, and then at least Worthy/Burden for 3 more after that if Rice ends up being too expensive. It's time for this team to give him consistant talent he can create real chemistry with at the position, and I think they're going to do that.

Kiimo 04-24-2025 01:11 PM

I'm kind of buying into the idea that Mahomes was just planting the seed when he said he wants to throw deep again last week

Womble 04-24-2025 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 18040207)
I'm kind of buying into the idea that Mahomes was just planting the seed when he said he wants to throw deep again last week

Why draft a guy when you already have the solution in your building?

Skyy is still your guy right?

https://abc17news.b-cdn.net/abc17new...332-scaled.jpg

ChiefsCountry 04-24-2025 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 18040170)

That picture is as real as Pittsie's girlfriend in Belize

DJ's left nut 04-24-2025 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 18040181)
What makes you so sure? The Chiefs seem to have realized they need to start surrounding Mahomes with more weapons. Case in point; they let Justin Watson walk and kept Hollywood and JuJu. Do you have any idea how much Andy Reid loves Justin Watson? :D

Seriously, If Burden is there, you have a shot to give Mahomes a trio of Worthy, Rice and Burden for at least the next 2 full seasons, and then at least Worthy/Burden for 3 more after that if Rice ends up being too expensive. It's time for this team to give him consistant talent he can create real chemistry with at the position, and I think they're going to do that.

For the first half of his career, we gave him everything we could.

For the last half of it, we've asked him to make due.

I think the team owes him something closer to the former than the latter over this transition era. His security blanket (Kelce) is gone.

Now the counter to that is an easy one -- do we NEED to use a 1st rounder to help? We didn't with Rice. Could that aid come in the form of Royals or Noel or Trey Harris in the 2nd? Williams or Horton later still?

It's a fair question.

MahomesMagic 04-24-2025 01:27 PM

I don't get why anyone would want to have a mediocre, boring offense with the greatest QB talent in NFL history in his prime on this team.


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