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DJ's left nut 05-01-2023 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928807)
Feels like if there's another Hyatt or even Mims sitting there in round 2 next year, he'll probably be a Chief.
Depends on Toney. If they think they can use Toney on those routes, I think we'll be looking more at the 3rd/4th round and a guy like Trey Palmer this year who slides.

The Franchise 05-01-2023 09:38 AM
All I know is that the Justyn Ross stans are going to be pissed when he doesn't make the roster because I'm seeing a WR group that has MVS, Toney, Moore, Rice, James and Watson.

RunKC 05-01-2023 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928806)
DJ, how do you feel about Rice's splits in man vs. zone? I found that a tad bit concerning, even though I don't think it's a big deal by any means.
Was that chart counted when he had his toe injury bc that injury changed everything for him. He toughed through it but damn

staylor26 05-01-2023 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16928819)
All I know is that the Justyn Ross stans are going to be pissed when he doesn't make the roster because I'm seeing a WR group that has MVS, Toney, Moore, Rice, James and Watson.
He's going to have to earn a spot. That's for sure. Not going to be easy at all.

The Franchise 05-01-2023 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928826)
He's going to have to earn a spot. That's for sure. Not going to be easy at all.
He doesn't play STs AFAIK, so he's going to have an uphill battle.

O.city 05-01-2023 09:49 AM
So if James has a great year and goes for 700-800 yards and 5 TDs.....do you look or think about an extension? Or is it just "on to the next".

staylor26 05-01-2023 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16928829)
He doesn't play STs AFAIK, so he's going to have an uphill battle.
One thing that may help his chances a bit is that it looks like the Chiefs won't be keeping a FB this year.

The Franchise 05-01-2023 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928841)
One thing that may help his chances a bit is that it looks like the Chiefs won't be keeping a FB this year.
Wonder if they'll use Bell or Grey in some of those situations.

DJ's left nut 05-01-2023 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16928826)
He's going to have to earn a spot. That's for sure. Not going to be easy at all.
I'm still not 100% certain Watson makes this team. Wasn't going into the draft and am not convinced he will now.

Ross will have a chance to take that job away from him.

DJ's left nut 05-01-2023 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16928839)
So if James has a great year and goes for 700-800 yards and 5 TDs.....do you look or think about an extension? Or is it just "on to the next".
As anything, depends on the money.

He just HAD a decent year where he went for about 600 yards and didn't generate much of a market. I don't mind trying that again this off-season and if he can get $5-6 million/yr on the market I'd probably move on.

But if you lose him and MVS next season, that's a lot of knowledge in the system that leaves with them and all but demands you retain Watson at that point.

Buehler445 05-01-2023 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16928839)
So if James has a great year and goes for 700-800 yards and 5 TDs.....do you look or think about an extension? Or is it just "on to the next".
Depends on what the demands are. Much like JJSS. I like him at sub 5M per. I don't really like him >5M per

tredadda 05-01-2023 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by emaw1979 (Post 16928377)
I've been very vocal about my discontent with the Skyy Moore pick at the time and during the easy, and I feel partially vindicated by his lack of production last year. However, when Moore was in there he was almost always open and he flashed the few opportunities he had.


That being said, I hated the Rice pick even worse. They traded up for a player that's likely there if they waited and may have been there in the 3rd. and if not, there were better options. I'd be surprised if he finishes his rookie contract. WRs that can't get open and have bad hands generally don't last long in the league. You want a comp for Rice? Jehu Chesson. The Chiefs moved up for him too and he lasted one year. Similar scouting reports.

So of the two? Moore is an NFL WR. He can be a productive one IMO. Rice.
How do you know this? Did all of the GMs in the league have him rated as a 3rd rounder? Also do you think Andy agrees with your assessment? Why did word get out the Mahomes threw to other WRs, yet nothing about Rice? There is a ton of speculation in your post with no basis in reality.

Dante84 05-01-2023 10:17 AM
I don't know that we raised the bar on WR position heading in to this year, but I think we definitely raised the floor.

That should likely be enough with Mahomes running the show.

Buehler445 05-01-2023 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16928889)
I don't know that we raised the bar on WR position heading in to this year, but I think we definitely raised the floor.

That should likely be enough with Mahomes running the show.
I mean, no different than last year, but injuries can really **** us in the ass.

RunKC 05-01-2023 10:20 AM
Just noticed Rice had the 3rd best 10 yard time at the combine among WR’s at 1.49. Last year Skyy Moore had an elite 10 yard time of 1.46.

That explosion off the line certainly means a lot to Veach


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