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Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by laughsatyou907 (Post 10344028)
Would it matter to you?

Yes. Generally, when a team I like wins a game, especially a post season contest, it matters to me.

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10344031)
Yes. Generally, when a team I like wins a game, especially a post season contest, it matters to me.

I think that you would move the goal posts and complain either way.

Coltsfan22 01-05-2014 02:01 AM

He was pissing me off in the first half :grr:

TLO 01-05-2014 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coltsfan22 (Post 10344085)
He was pissing me off in the first hald :grr:

Great post.

Would read again.

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10340940)
440 yards of total offense, four tds, all while losing Jamal Charles after 6 plays. Offense scored 44 points.

Alex Smith had very little other than that fumble to do with this loss.

But, he will be the scape goat.

That was almost a career game for Alex. Far more impressive than the 5 TD game. Alex played like a top tier QB today. This loss is all on the defense, or maybe some on Reid's clock management.

Anybody who blames Alex for this loss is either stupid or trolling. He was lights out today.

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi (Post 10341155)
I might as well jump on this grenade since I would never claim to be anything but stupid.

In my mind, defense just doesn't matter much in today's NFL. The team with the best QB is going to be favored 90% of the time. The best QB on the field today was Andrew Luck.

44 points should never be a loss. Never. The reason you want an elite QB is just to put up the big points when needed. Alex did just that today. What else could he have done besides play strong safety?

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10341258)
Must be nice throwing the defense under the bus with "44 points" while ignoring the points scored off turnovers.

The whole team sucked shit in the 2nd half, including Alex.

Sorry, but when you go into the locker room up 21 to 3, then lose -- that is the defenses failure to hold the lead. You post 44 points in a game and lose -- that is 100% on the defense. Period, end of discussion!

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 10344139)
Sorry, but when you go into the locker room up 21 to 3, then lose -- that is the defenses failure to hold the lead. You post 44 points in a game and lose -- that is 100% on the defense. Period, end of discussion!

That second half was an absolute abortion for the entire team- Alex chief among them.

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ceebz (Post 10341314)
The thing is, teams with elite QB's can overcome losing their explosive RB. A. Smith cannot.

But he did! He posted 44 points. If you lost 95 to 94, would you still be saying the same thing?

How many points does the defense get to give up with impunity?

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 10341318)
Well if Andrew Luck is the goal, then Alex Smith is never going to be that. But I think Luck can be better than Manning and Brady.

Andrew Luck will be the best quarterback in the NFL before too long.

Carlota69 01-05-2014 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10342850)
1-2 in those games.

At the end of the day that is all that matters.

That's funny, that's not what people were saying when we were 9-0.
This thread is beyond crazy. People actually blaming Smith, yet the leader of the Smith haters (Clay) has turned around. Amazing, this thread is ****ing amazing.

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 10344145)
That's funny, that's not what people were saying when we were 9-0.
This thread is beyond crazy. People actually blaming Smith, yet the leader of the Smith haters (Clay) has turned around. Amazing, this thread is ****ing amazing.

Clay is trolling the board. He doesn't actually believe the stuff he's been saying since 3pm CST

Kaepernick 01-05-2014 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10341958)
Of those 44 how many were a short field because of a turnover?

You are missing the point.

You come out of the locker room up 21-3 and run the score up to 44 points, and you should win the game.

If you lose, it is ONLY because your defense allowed 42 points in the 2nd half.

That is absolutely unforgivable. Heads roll for playoff defensive breakdowns like this.

Langdon1975 01-05-2014 04:58 AM

Hey, first post. Really don't understand the hate against Smith. What have the 49ers done since they traded Smith? Did they win the SB? I don't think so. Smith has been to the playoffs twice since he started playing well. He outplayed Drew Brees with one capable receiver (Davis), then he was close to going to the SB, if not for two costly fumbles by his kick returner.

Now against Colts he was pulling rabbits out of his hat when players kept going down and he kept making plays. I don't know how much more you can ask from a QB. Now if he had a terrible game and the Colts came back, then it would've been on Smith. But Hilton was wide open on every single pass play during the second half and unfortunately Smith can't go out there and cover guys.

And anyone who says these words: "well a great QB like Manning would never lose with a lead like that." He just did, in New England. And he didn't have 4 TD's in that game and he didn't play well.

All KC needs is to get healthy. They played good D early in the season and their offense is clearly good enough. Not much you can do when you lose half the lineup during the game and put up 44 on the road and still lose.

ViperVisor 01-05-2014 05:01 AM

And it was the Colt's only play-maker that the defense let toast them.

Brazill Fleener Rogers Whalen

Rogers made the 1 big catch when the DB stupidly tried to catch instead of the simple knock away.

It was TY TY TY on the fumble bounce TD drive.
And TY as well on the huge TD pass.

It would be different if Donald Brown busted a beast-mode run for 50+. Or if the Colts pulled off a crazy flea-flicker or HB pass.

It was just flat out piss poor defense.


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