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alnorth 01-22-2014 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10387038)
Jeff Francoeur thinks that doesn't sound so bad...

But seriously, their backup is Brendan Ryan. Not hard to see a situation where Beltran/Teixeira/Jeter are sitting with injuries and the Yankees have multiple black holes in their lineup.

The only downside with them signing Tanaka and still having Sabathia, is it pretty much removes any possibility of them losing 100 games.

Seriously, just pretend those 2 pitchers don't exist, and take a good, hard look at that team.

If you've been following the Royals for the last 15 years, doesn't it look familiar? AND they play in the AL East?

duncan_idaho 01-22-2014 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10387046)
The only downside with them signing Tanaka and still having Sabathia, is it pretty much removes any possibility of them losing 100 games.

Seriously, just pretend those 2 pitchers don't exist, and take a good, hard look at that team.

If you've been following the Royals for the last 15 years, doesn't it look familiar? AND they play in the AL East?

... Unless Tanaka is Daisuke Matsuzaka. No. 4/5 pitchers don't prevent teams from losing 100 games.

alnorth 01-22-2014 10:49 AM

For Tanaka's sake, I hope the Yankees blew away the Dodgers, because if the Dodgers were in the same ballpark, then he made a VERY stupid decision. I know with those kinda players media exposure and endorsement deals are a big factor, but he would have had plenty of that in LA, and the Dodgers should be good.

In New York, at best, he won't be blamed when they struggle, but if he looks just a little wobbly or pitches like a #3, he's going to get a lot of hate.

KevB 01-23-2014 12:21 PM

Matt Garza signing with Brewers, 4 yr/$52M deal

I have to think that's quite a letdown for Erv. If Garza signs for $52M, I'd be shocked if Erv got much more than that, perhaps in the $70M range.

Chiefspants 01-23-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 10389056)
Matt Garza signing with Brewers, 4 yr/$52M deal

I have to think that's quite a letdown for Erv. If Garza signs for $52M, I'd be shocked if Erv got much more than that, perhaps in the $70M range.

Wow. You have to wonder whether we could have made a serious run at him had we not inked Vargas.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2014 12:30 PM

Garza signs for 4/$52?

That makes me think we might see Santana sign for $10/11 million a year.

Garza doesn't carry the first-round pick compensation weight with him, which actually is worse than Garza's injury issues, by most estimates.

4/45 seems like it might actually happen for Santana now. Wow. Unless Garza's medical exams are just a disaster...

alnorth 01-23-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10389082)
Garza signs for 4/$52?

That makes me think we might see Santana sign for $10/11 million a year.

Garza doesn't carry the first-round pick compensation weight with him, which actually is worse than Garza's injury issues, by most estimates.

4/45 seems like it might actually happen for Santana now. Wow. Unless Garza's medical exams are just a disaster...

Garza's medical records scared off a lot of teams. I wouldn't say this sets a precedent just yet.

duncan_idaho 01-23-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10389119)
Garza's medical records scared off a lot of teams. I wouldn't say this sets a precedent just yet.

Right. But unless Garza's medicals have been worse than expected (they've been expect to be a negative all along, but less of a negative than losing a comp. pick, according to what I'd read), it might.

Will be interesting to watch.

SPchief 01-23-2014 12:51 PM

I said it at the beginning of the offseason and I'll say it again. Offer 3/$45 and see what happens

duncan_idaho 01-23-2014 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10389182)
I said it at the beginning of the offseason and I'll say it again. Offer 3/$45 and see what happens

I think I laughed that off at the time, but it looks like a possibility now.

Mecca 01-23-2014 01:01 PM

I doubt the Royals will be offering Ervin anything but that'd be nice if he came back, don't expect it at all though.

alnorth 01-23-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10389182)
I said it at the beginning of the offseason and I'll say it again. Offer 3/$45 and see what happens

We probably already offered at least that much before moving on to Vargas and Infante.

alnorth 01-23-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10389134)
Right. But unless Garza's medicals have been worse than expected (they've been expect to be a negative all along, but less of a negative than losing a comp. pick, according to what I'd read), it might.

Will be interesting to watch.

I think teams that would be scared off by medical records would generally have a lot more money than teams that would be scared off by the draft pick. I think he'll get at least 5/60, probably more.

SPchief 01-23-2014 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10389247)
We probably already offered at least that much before moving on to Vargas and Infante.

Offer it again

alnorth 01-23-2014 01:25 PM

Looks like Chris Getz is going to be stealing money from the Blue Jays this year, though its just a minor league contract.


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