Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6437339)

First, Richard Seymore MAY walk through that door. Doubt it, but possibly.

Now, on to the bigger point. Coaches are hired based on familiarity and compatability. Due to this, guys usually hire other guys they have worked with.

They can't duplicate the situation in New England. I get that. But, they can establish a program. This team is still in need of so much. And, you have to get to a level of competency, before you can hope to go further than that. Coaches and rosters are similar in that they can be tweaked every offseason. Right now, the Chiefs are still trying to get the foundation laid.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6437356)

Does anyone else get the feeling that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6437347)

Are you really saying that Parcells had little to no success with the Jets? You continue to be a fool.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6437358)

I guess your idea of "success" is different from others.

One playoff win over 3 years isn't my hope for the Chiefs, nor should it be for anyone.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6437380)

Parcells left after that period.

If two years from now, the Chiefs had won a playoff game, I would feel like the Chiefs were on the right path. I don't expect Haley to move on at that point. And, if Weis or Crennel move on, the key is to have the systems in place so that they can be replaced by someone on the staff.

The key is getting a good system in place and continuing to build.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437371)

Establishing a program is just another PR phrase.

It's about bringing in the best players and the best people to coach them up. What I've seen for the first year is a pattern of myopia in hiring and player acquisitions that point to an inability of this regime to see things beyond the bounds of how they happened in New England.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437382)

No, the key is getting in good players. That's all that ever mattered. The same "system" that worked so well in Dallas in 1993 didn't work worth a shit in Miami in 1999.

The "system" that worked so well in New York in the mid 1980s didn't work worth a shit in Dallas in the mid 2000s.

Why?

Talent.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437377)

Are you ****ing serious?

Of course not. That team never won anything. Nor was it ever even close to winning anything.

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 6437356)

Does anyone else get the feeling that if the Chiefs won a SB that Hamas and Mecca would leave?

Originally Posted by SLAG (Post 6416459)

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/7459154936


Latest update orig posted by MR_Tomahawk:

Giants' candidate Crennel joins Chiefs

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/giants...ylzTTgr5Hj3wEI

6:28 PM, January 11, 2010 ι By PAUL SCHWARTZ
One-time Giants assistant and former Browns head coach Romeo Crennel will not be the new Giants defensive coordinator. Crennel has been hired to run the Chiefs defense.

Crenell never interviewed with Tom Coughlin but the Giants did express some interest.

One candidate Coughlin has already interviewed, former Bills head coach Perry Fewell, was in Chicago to speak with head coach Lovie Smith about the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell is considered the front-runner.

Fewell, once Coughlin's defensive backs coach with the Jaguars, met last Thursday with Coughlin with the understanding he was in the running for the Bears defensive coordinator job. Fewell worked in St. Louis and Chicago for Smith and it appears the two will work together again.

Another interesting possibility: Mike Zimmer. His contract will soon expire with the Bengals. Zimmer successfully ran the defenses for the Cowboys and Falcons and did a solid job this season in Cincinnati. Zimmer may attract some interest around the league as a potential head-coaching candidate.

Tom Cable is expected to be fired as head coach of the Raiders and if he is, Giants offensive coordinator Kevin Gilbride is again likely to get an interview. Gilbride last year interviewed for the job.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6437404)

He took a team that had 4 wins over its previous two seasons and took them to 9-7 his first year. His second year they went 12-4 and to the Conference Championship. That is a dramatic improvement you brain damaged weasel.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6437371)

Establishing a program is just another PR phrase.

It's about bringing in the best players and the best people to coach them up. What I've seen for the first year is a pattern of myopia in hiring and player acquisitions that point to an inability of this regime to see things beyond the bounds of how they happened in New England.

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 6437403)

Oh, so you think that the Chiefs will quit trying to get better talent now that they have the coordinators?

No, of course not. They will still continue to acquire talent. And some of those moves will work, and some won't. Same as every team.

Belichick went 5-11 his first year in NE. He had a lot of guys from the Parcells staff in NY. But, they kept building.

The key is to get the foundation laid, the system in place and then continue to build.

But, rest assured, they will continue to find talent.

Oh, and Jimmy Johnson didn't have that many coaches with him from the Dallas days in Miami. Just an FYI.

Originally Posted by Stinger (Post 6437416)

Just so I am understanding you correctly.......... That if something is proven to be a success you should not try to emulate it but go your own way and try to find your own nitch?