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RedinTexas 10-10-2024 03:33 PM

Didn't some Bengals fan guarantee us that Burrow would win more SB rings than Mahomes? Was that you rfaulk?

DJ's left nut 10-10-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739402)
None of that matters.

Late 4th quarter, 4th 16 penalty when the game would have been over. Being over and still time to play are worlds apart. Every team has mistakes. I'm talking about a game being over on one play.

Without the penalty, Rice catches the ball.

The problem was that your underneath DB gave the rookie no choice but to play through the receiver. It wasn't a stupid penalty on the rookies part; he did everything he could do there to try to salvage an impossible situation.

It was an execution error that cost you the game. Same thing that usually costs teams the game when you're nursing a 1-score lead into the waning minutes against a superior QB.

tredadda 10-10-2024 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17737172)
He's clearly not on Mahomes 'clutch' level.

You don't throw a pick in opponent's territory with 5 mins left, then go 3 and out with 1:30 and 3 timeouts and even try to be called clutch.

He's getting early Aaron Rodgers level of failures at the end of games.

If he follows that path at least you can look forward to one SB and four league MVPs.

tredadda 10-10-2024 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739357)
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.

You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.

We get it. KC was an offsides away from denying Brady his sixth ring.

tredadda 10-10-2024 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739400)
Never said the greatest. Just better right now.

Burrow would need 2 SB wins, an MVP and SB MVP to even begin to say he's approaching Mahomes level.

Mahomes is so far ahead of anyone playing QB right now as the "greatest" it's not even funny, or a race at this point. No one is close.

Don't tell Baltimore and Buffalo fans that.

Bearcat 10-10-2024 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739357)
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.

You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.

Technically, the Patriots could probably say the same thing.

DRM08 10-10-2024 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739357)
Nah, not a huge gap. Bengals are giving up 100 less yards per game through 5 but they're giving up just over 3 more points per game.

You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.

Definitely a very thin margin between success and failure in the NFL.

RedinTexas 10-10-2024 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739357)
You can look at 1-4 and say suuuuuuuuuuucks but a 4th and 16 penalty by a stupid rookie and a dropped snap by a rookie holder is the difference between that and 3-2. Two plays have made that much difference.

You make a couple of unstated assumptions here. First, you assume that if the "stupid rookie" hadn't committed DPI, the receiver would not have caught the ball for a first down.

Second, you assume that if the rookie holder had not fumbled the snap, that the kicker would have made the field goal.

These are some pretty big assumptions. You conclude by saying two plays made the difference, but with those assumptions in place, there is much more than two plays that are the difference.

FlaChief58 10-10-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17739340)
1-4

I was just coming here to say that :thumb:

rfaulk34 10-10-2024 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17739408)
Didn't some Bengals fan guarantee us that Burrow would win more SB rings than Mahomes? Was that you rfaulk?

Not that i can recall but i wouldn't put anything past me.

rfaulk34 10-10-2024 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17739412)
Without the penalty, Rice catches the ball.

The problem was that your underneath DB gave the rookie no choice but to play through the receiver. It wasn't a stupid penalty on the rookies part; he did everything he could do there to try to salvage an impossible situation.

It was an execution error that cost you the game. Same thing that usually costs teams the game when you're nursing a 1-score lead into the waning minutes against a superior QB.

He doesn't have to play through the receiver. If he has any kind of awareness, he plays it on the side to completetely avoid going through the receiver.

The sad part is, he wasn't even aware a receiver was right in front of him because he "was playing the ball".

Honestly though, i put more on Lou for only rushing 3. Pre-snap i thought, "that's a bad idea".

rfaulk34 10-10-2024 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17739440)
Don't tell Baltimore and Buffalo fans that.

I try not to talk to legitimate dummies.

rfaulk34 10-10-2024 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17739445)
Technically, the Patriots could probably say the same thing.

Oh, there's teams every year that can say that. It just amplifies how razor thin the difference between winning and losing is.

Red Dawg 10-10-2024 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17740336)
I try not to talk to legitimate dummies.

We are in the middle of a dynasty run and you are here talking shit about Joe's meaningless stats. Dummy is you.

rfaulk34 10-10-2024 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17739482)
You make a couple of unstated assumptions here. First, you assume that if the "stupid rookie" hadn't committed DPI, the receiver would not have caught the ball for a first down.

Second, you assume that if the rookie holder had not fumbled the snap, that the kicker would have made the field goal.

These are some pretty big assumptions. You conclude by saying two plays made the difference, but with those assumptions in place, there is much more than two plays that are the difference.

I don't think they're that big. I use the rookie because he was the one that committed the foul. If the 4th and 16 is executed better by all involved is a better way to say it. I wasn't happy at all that Lou only rushed 3 to give Pat all day to throw.

I don't remember the specifics but they threw up a couple stats about Evan in that situation and it's a pretty safe bet to say he would have made it. He's made all of his 50+ yarders this year and there was no wind at the time of the kick.


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