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staylor26 01-26-2025 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17939628)
I never said that

Oh **** off. You definitely disagreed that there was any significant difference between the two.

You thought they were close, it's not even remotely close. You were wrong. Just ****ing admit it. Keon Coleman is a JAG until proven otherwise, and I actually liked him as a prospect.

Pitt Gorilla 01-26-2025 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17939581)
BWillie said Worthy was just a gadget player LMAO

One couldn't watch him in college and be stupid enough to believe that.

Pitt Gorilla 01-26-2025 10:59 PM

LMAO

Bills fans are acting surprised that Coleman is too slow to get open. I mean, he was too slow in college. What were folks expecting?

ThaVirus 01-26-2025 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17939633)
Oh **** off. You definitely disagreed that there was any significant difference between the two.

You thought they were close, it's not even remotely close. You were wrong. Just ****ing admit it. Keon Coleman is a JAG until proven otherwise, and I actually liked him as a prospect.

Literally never said any of that. Didn’t even imply it.

You created that narrative yourself, as you’re like to do.

staylor26 01-26-2025 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17939660)
Literally never said any of that. Didn’t even imply it.

You created that narrative yourself, as you’re like to do.

Holy ****. You said that having Coleman out was like us not having Worthy. I said Coleman isn't even in the same league as Worthy, Worthy is a WR1, and Coleman was a WR3 at best. You clearly disagreed.

What a disingenuous bundle of sticks.

PHOG 01-27-2025 07:57 AM

Keep it up, Worthy!

displacedinMN 01-27-2025 08:23 AM

Damn he is fast

ThaVirus 01-27-2025 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17939669)
Holy ****. You said that having Coleman out was like us not having Worthy. I said Coleman isn't even in the same league as Worthy, Worthy is a WR1, and Coleman was a WR3 at best. You clearly disagreed.

What a disingenuous bundle of sticks.

I thought we settled this in the other thread but whatever.

I said this:

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17927936)
Shit, I didn’t realize that..

So it’s basically like us getting back Jawaan Taylor, Noah Gray, Xavier Worthy, and Nick Bolton for them.



Those are some big movers and shakers on each side. I wouldn’t be surprised if this game looks completely different than the one earlier this year.

Seemed innocuous enough. Of course you misinterpreted the meaning of my post because you’re an idiot:

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17927949)
I know you're comparing Worthy and Coleman because of stats, but Coleman hasn't even been in the same league as Worthy as a rookie. He's absolutely nothing to be afraid of. Stop box score scouting for once.

Like I said, you created that boogeyman yourself and ran with it.

I even reiterated my stance later on:

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17928226)
Sure, that could easily be the case. I never even suggested any different, just that his addition is a big change compared to the last time we played.

This was the post I originally made that dipshit Staylor took offense to:



Anyone with a brain can see the parallels there.

They get back their starting RT. What would that look like for KC? Getting back Taylor.

They get back their starting MLB. Would be like us getting back Bolton.

They get back their backup TE. By golly, that’s kind like us getting Gray back from injury.

They get back their rookie WR who is coincidentally their second-leading receiver? Hmm. Wonder what’s the closest analog for KC…

Dude’s just an insecure weirdo who thought I was comparing their talent or something. He’s confused. I think he has low T.

I never suggested that they were “a wash” or anything of the sort. In fact, I even argued that they’re totally different players with different roles in different offenses. Comparing them makes little to no sense.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17928047)
They’re totally different players with different roles in their offense. The comparison isn’t apples to apples but it doesn’t need to be.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/Sa8iVD-dA...wers-movie.gif

In short, you’re braindead!

JPH83 01-27-2025 09:59 AM

Had a PFF score of around 90 I think, which absolutely passes the eye test. They took away Kelce, limited Brown, and then saw Worthy and JuJu of all people rip them a new one.

staylor26 01-27-2025 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17939669)
Holy ****. You said that having Coleman out was like us not having Worthy. I said Coleman isn't even in the same league as Worthy, Worthy is a WR1, and Coleman was a WR3 at best. You clearly disagreed.

What a disingenuous bundle of sticks.

Here's what you said:

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17928047)
I’ve watched him and he looks good.

They’re totally different players with different roles in their offense. The comparison isn’t apples to apples but it doesn’t need to be.

Either way, I’m not going to sit here while you argue that a rookie WR who averaged 19 YPR isn’t in the same league as X Man. Coleman had basically the same number of receptions on FORTY fewer targets. He’s been impressive.



Oh, did we not have Charlie O back at that point? ****ing nice.

It’s hard to remember that far back with all of these moving pieces.

Stop focusing on the semantics of whether you said it was a wash. You very clearly were arguing against my point that Worthy was in another league making it a false equivalence.

What exactly am I wrong about here?

Is it not entirely obvious that Worthy is in another league than Coleman at this point? Did you not very clearly say he was in the same league? How the **** are you going to pretend you weren't wrong here? LMAO

RunKC 01-27-2025 11:17 AM

They took this kid over Worthy and McConkey LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">Trent McDuffie vs Keon Coleman <a href="https://t.co/2qMfTjOnc4">pic.twitter.com/2qMfTjOnc4</a></p>&mdash; NMD Grant (@NMDgrant) <a href="https://twitter.com/NMDgrant/status/1883678648068366764?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

smithandrew051 01-27-2025 11:34 AM

Coleman can’t separate? Was this on the news?

smithandrew051 01-27-2025 11:35 AM

Imagine if the Bills took Jefferson instead of giving up picks and a big contract for Diggs.

Imagine if the Bills took Worhty or McConkey.

Imagine. Imagine.

tooge 01-27-2025 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17939113)
When Rice comes back next year, OMG we are going to terrorize the league.

Resign Hollywood for another year or two also? If that happened, the three of them would be very tough to cover

PatMahomesIsGod 01-27-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17940611)
They took this kid over Worthy and McConkey LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="et" dir="ltr">Trent McDuffie vs Keon Coleman <a href="https://t.co/2qMfTjOnc4">pic.twitter.com/2qMfTjOnc4</a></p>&mdash; NMD Grant (@NMDgrant) <a href="https://twitter.com/NMDgrant/status/1883678648068366764?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Creates as much separation as Billay from a fat chick at last call.

tooge 01-27-2025 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by PatMahomesIsGod (Post 17940659)
Creates as much separation as Billay from a fat cock at last call.

FYP

BigCatDaddy 01-27-2025 11:54 AM

Is he an Alpha?

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-27-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17940648)
Imagine if the Bills took Jefferson instead of giving up picks and a big contract for Diggs.

Imagine if the Bills took Worhty or McConkey.

Imagine. Imagine.

Everyone's upset about McDermott, why is Beane not getting any flack?

ThaVirus 01-27-2025 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17940599)
Here's what you said:



Stop focusing on the semantics of whether you said it was a wash. You very clearly were arguing against my point that Worthy was in another league making it a false equivalence.

What exactly am I wrong about here?

Is it not entirely obvious that Worthy is in another league than Coleman at this point? Did you not very clearly say he was in the same league? How the **** are you going to pretend you weren't wrong here? LMAO

How can we ignore semantics when semantics is what started the argument?

I literally outright stated that you cannot compare the two. They are so different and their situations are so different that it’s pointless. I only even engaged you in the debate because you took it too far, as per usual. “They’re not even in the same leeeeague!” “Coleman is a WR3!” “He’s clearly maxed out!” LMAO Like, OK, I suppose I’ll believe you ‘cause.. you said so..?

ForeverIowan 01-27-2025 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17940717)
Everyone's upset about McDermott, why is Beane not getting any flack?

Seems pretty dang clear Worthy is going to be an absolute stud. Kid is only 21 years.

Even if the Bills truly did not want Worthy, why do you even pick up the phone when the Chiefs call? The team that has knocked your asses out of the playoffs 4 times in the past 5 years. Why would you give THAT team the player they are trying to TRADE UP to acquire they want him so badly? INEXCUSEABLE!

You could make a genuine argument our three most important players heading into next year are Mahomes/McDuffie/Worthy. All three players Brett Veach straight dogwalked the Bills front office to acquire.

staylor26 01-27-2025 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17940904)
How can we ignore semantics when semantics is what started the argument?

I literally outright stated that you cannot compare the two. They are so different and their situations are so different that it’s pointless. I only even engaged you in the debate because you took it too far, as per usual. “They’re not even in the same leeeeague!” “Coleman is a WR3!” “He’s clearly maxed out!” LMAO Like, OK, I suppose I’ll believe you ‘cause.. you said so..?

So just to be clear you still disagree that Worthy is in a different league?

crispystl 01-27-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17940950)
Seems pretty dang clear Worthy is going to be an absolute stud. Kid is only 21 years.

Even if the Bills truly did not want Worthy, why do you even pick up the phone when the Chiefs call? The team that has knocked your asses out of the playoffs 4 times in the past 5 years. Why would you give THAT team the player they are trying to TRADE UP to acquire they want him so badly? INEXCUSEABLE!

You could make a genuine argument our three most important players heading into next year are Mahomes/McDuffie/Worthy. All three players Brett Veach straight dogwalked the Bills front office to acquire.

I still can't believe those idiots made that trade. I don't know wtf they were thinking, but I doubt they do it again any time soon. Outsmarted themselves.

BWillie 01-27-2025 01:55 PM

Man he's looking better and better. Becoming a much more rounded WR as he gets the reps. Him and Rice are going to be a top formidable duo for years to come.

Pitt Gorilla 01-27-2025 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17940961)
Man he's looking better and better. Becoming a much more rounded WR as he gets the reps. Him and Rice are going to be a top formidable duo for years to come.

He's always been a well-rounded WR. Hell, Bert and Andy talked about it after the draft.

ThaVirus 01-27-2025 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17940956)
So just to be clear you still disagree that Worthy is in a different league?

Yes. They both play in the National Football League; therefore, I have to disagree.

Sassy Squatch 01-27-2025 03:13 PM

LMAO

staylor26 01-27-2025 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17941190)
Yes. They both play in the National Football League; therefore, I have to disagree.

Nice dodge LMAO

ThaVirus 01-27-2025 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17941195)
LMAO

https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...qqXu/giphy.gif

staylor26 01-27-2025 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17941220)

You turned your L into a funny jokes but it's still an L.

The best part is that I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were box score scouting, but you insisted it was eye test.

Get your ****ing eyes checked.

"1st round talent" LMAO

ThaVirus 01-27-2025 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17941230)
You turned your L into a funny jokes but it's still an L.

The best part is that I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were box score scouting, but you insisted it was eye test.

Get your ****ing eyes checked.

"1st round talent" LMAO

I haven’t taken an L. One game isn’t proof of anything.. unless you’d argue that Juju Smith-Schuster is better than Hollywood, Shakir, Hopkins and Kelce.

RealSNR 01-27-2025 03:33 PM

Remember when people freaked out because he was still learning the NFL and didn’t get his feet in bounds, and therefore he was in danger of being a misuse of a 1st round draft pick?

staylor26 01-27-2025 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17941246)
I haven’t taken an L. One game isn’t proof of anything.. unless you’d argue that Juju Smith-Schuster is better than Hollywood, Shakir, Hopkins and Kelce.

One game? LMAO

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17939598)
Coleman had 3 catches for 22 yards in 3 playoff games. Worthy has 11 catches for 130 yards and a TD in 2 playoff games.

Their talent has been on display ALL season. Anybody with a ****ing clue can see the difference. Worthy has been consistently getting open as the WR1 on this offense. Coleman can't separate, and he doesn't have any elite traits like Worthy does.

Like I said, Coleman's production came mostly from broken plays that weren't sustainable. That's why he's been JAG down the stretch, and particularly in the playoffs. Meanwhile, Worthy didn't even come close to being as productive as he should've been if it weren't for Pat.

Pitt Gorilla 01-27-2025 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17941253)
Remember when people freaked out because he was still learning the NFL and didn’t get his feet in bounds, and therefore he was in danger of being a misuse of a 1st round draft pick?

Literally everyone understood how stupid that take was, though.

chiefzilla1501 01-27-2025 04:59 PM

I still think worthy was rushed into a role over his head because Hollywood got hurt. He has gotten better as the season went along. And Hollywood out there helps him a ton since he’s really helping out with some of those more seasoned routes. Worthy is coming around really nicely and I’m curious to see what they do with Hollywood next season

That catch by worthy just to even get in there and play defense was absolutely sensational.

BossChief 01-27-2025 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17940648)
Imagine if the Bills took Jefferson instead of giving up picks and a big contract for Diggs.

Imagine if the Bills took Worhty or McConkey.

Imagine. Imagine.

In an alternate universe, they have Mahomes, Jefferson and Worthy.

And we got stuck with TreDavius White.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-27-2025 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17941253)
Remember when people freaked out because he was still learning the NFL and didn’t get his feet in bounds, and therefore he was in danger of being a misuse of a 1st round draft pick?

"Oh my god the rookie WR did rookie WR things, what will we do????"

smithandrew051 01-27-2025 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17941430)
In an alternate universe, they have Mahomes, Jefferson and Worthy.

And we got stuck with TreDavius White.

If we just fix the defense, Sam Darnold can win us a Super Bowl!

RunKC 01-27-2025 05:35 PM

Mahomes Magic time to apologize to Worthy. This is definitely considered “Alpha”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An unreal catch 26-yard catch by Xavier Worthy!<a href="https://t.co/MMu1xZd12O">pic.twitter.com/MMu1xZd12O</a></p>&mdash; Underdog NFL (@Underdog__NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/Underdog__NFL/status/1883679166652100663?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ForeverIowan 01-27-2025 06:00 PM

If Rashee comes back where he left off the AFC is in trouble. Mahomes has been going to SBs with make shift and has been wide receiving cores. You give Mahomes a steady and consistent receiving core with two elite receivers...trouble!

BigCatDaddy 01-27-2025 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17941483)
If Rashee comes back where he left off the AFC is in trouble. Mahomes has been going to SBs with make shift and has been wide receiving cores. You give Mahomes a steady and consistent receiving core with two elite receivers...trouble!

And those are some cheap weapons to have, and we won't ever pay a RB. That allows us to invest a bit heavy on the Oline.

KCJake 01-27-2025 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17941467)
Mahomes Magic time to apologize to Worthy. This is definitely considered “Alpha”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">An unreal catch 26-yard catch by Xavier Worthy!<a href="https://t.co/MMu1xZd12O">pic.twitter.com/MMu1xZd12O</a></p>&mdash; Underdog NFL (@Underdog__NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/Underdog__NFL/status/1883679166652100663?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Still have no idea how he caught that ball. The difference in him over the last 6 weeks is very noticeable. Good job kid!

htismaqe 01-27-2025 06:19 PM

They drafted Worthy to be a complementary piece. He became a WR1. Rice will be back. This is great.

comochiefsfan 01-27-2025 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17941501)
They drafted Worthy to be a complementary piece. He became a WR1. Rice will be back. This is great.

Rashee missing the year has been a huge blessing in disguise when it comes to Worthy's development.

If he can come back and be the player he was pre injury, hoo boy we are going to have a nasty WR duo.

smithandrew051 01-27-2025 06:24 PM

Yo I’m horny

htismaqe 01-27-2025 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17941508)
Rashee missing the year has been a huge blessing in disguise when it comes to Worthy's development.

If he can come back and be the player he was pre injury, hoo boy we are going to have a nasty WR duo.

Yep.

ThaVirus 01-29-2025 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17941256)
Their talent has been on display ALL season. Anybody with a ****ing clue can see the difference.

Ok, well you also made this prediction about Skyy Moore and Alec Pierce so, again.. am I just supposed to take your word for it?

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16654390)
I get the George Pickens shit, but I have zero doubt that Skyy will be better than Alec Pierce in the long run. None whatsoever.


dannybcaitlyn 01-29-2025 12:15 PM

I’m giving D-hop some credit for a lot of his growth!

Hammock Parties 01-29-2025 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17941501)
They drafted Worthy to be a complementary piece. He became a WR1. Rice will be back. This is great.

If they get a LT and a RB in the draft this offense could be insane.

Mecca 01-29-2025 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17943865)
If they get a LT and a RB in the draft this offense could be insane.

RB I can see but this LT issue is probably going to persist.

staylor26 01-29-2025 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17943738)
Ok, well you also made this prediction about Skyy Moore and Alec Pierce so, again.. am I just supposed to take your word for it?

Whataboutism to deflect from your current L. I never said I have never been wrong about anything, but you can tell Skyy is all anybody has recently because it's literally EVERYBODY'S go to.

Let's list the things you've been proven wrong about fairly recently:

- Belichick can't draft for shit (absolutely hilarious that you argued against this)

- Tomlin isn't mediocre as **** and NFL purgatory (proven yet again this year)

Going back a few years, this argument in particular reminds me SO much of you arguing that Hockenson wasn't clearly a better player than Noah Fant when the Broncos signed Russ. The best part is that was a side argument where you were arguing for Russ and all those weapons in Denver!

You're absolutely ****ing clueless LMAO

htismaqe 01-29-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17943865)
If they get a LT and a RB in the draft this offense could be insane.

They're not likely to get a starting LT in the draft. They will either have to go the free agent route or keep throwing picks at it like they did with Kingsley.

It's just damn, damn hard to get a good, plug and play LT outside of the top 15 picks or so.

Mecca 01-29-2025 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17943888)
They're not likely to get a starting LT in the draft. They will either have to go the free agent route or keep throwing picks at it like they did with Kingsley.

It's just damn, damn hard to get a good, plug and play LT outside of the top 15 picks or so.

The only LT worth signing is probably Ronnie Stanley and he's 30..and probably going to get MASSIVE bank.

htismaqe 01-29-2025 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17943898)
The only LT worth signing is probably Ronnie Stanley and he's 30..and probably going to get MASSIVE bank.

And he has an injury history.

Mecca 01-29-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17943902)
And he has an injury history.

He does, he however was incredibly good this year...

I mean I can easily argue our team is better if we walk on Smith, sign Stanley and plug someone in at RG..however the cost to do that is going to be crazy high.

RunKC 01-29-2025 12:50 PM

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I still cannot believe the Bills let us have Worthy. If I was a Bills fan I’d want Beane fired for that based on pure principle.

I think Worthy was the biggest difference in this game. He was tremendous for us. All of those quick hitters to Hollywood happened bc of Kelce getting bracketed and Worthy motioning carrying the LB and S. Same with the Juju pass.

The catch was obviously enormous for the game but the 2nd to last play where they got Spags on the blitz and threw the screen to Amari Cooper..man that guy was so slow. He had an opening.

You cannot tell me Worthy doesn’t get this if he’s the one who caught that pass

Hammock Parties 01-29-2025 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17943888)
They're not likely to get a starting LT in the draft. They will either have to go the free agent route or keep throwing picks at it like they did with Kingsley.

It's just damn, damn hard to get a good, plug and play LT outside of the top 15 picks or so.

Yeah I'm not banking on that either.

FA or trade.

TheGuardian 01-29-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17943932)
Yeah I'm not banking on that either.

FA or trade.

I was thinking we'd package up some of the extra picks in a trade.

Mecca 01-29-2025 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17943937)
I was thinking we'd package up some of the extra picks in a trade.

To go from 32 to 12 would take 2 1sts plus a bunch of other shit.

New World Order 01-29-2025 12:53 PM

Why not just up thuneys money a bit and put him at LT.

You’d be resolving a huge need in the offseaso

htismaqe 01-29-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17943938)
To go from 32 to 12 would take 2 1sts plus a bunch of other shit.

Exactly. You gotta get into the top of the first. It would require a Mahomes-like trade. They aren't going to do that. And trading up into the 20's is just overpaying for the same kind of hope you can get at 32. There's really no good reason to trade up.

Best case scenario, an injury guy like Simmons falls but even then, he isn't playing right away.

Hammock Parties 01-29-2025 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17943940)
Why not just up thuneys money a bit and put him at LT.

You’d be resolving a huge need in the offseaso

Yeah this idea sucks. :LOL:

htismaqe 01-29-2025 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17943940)
Why not just up thuneys money a bit and put him at LT.

You’d be resolving a huge need in the offseaso

Thuney has been great in emergency duty. I don't see him playing LT for an entire season.

Mecca 01-29-2025 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17943950)
Exactly. You gotta get into the top of the first. It would require a Mahomes-like trade. They aren't going to do that. And trading up into the 20's is just overpaying for the same kind of hope you can get at 32. There's really no good reason to trade up.

Best case scenario, an injury guy like Simmons falls but even then, he isn't playing right away.

Most all the people predicting the draft still have Simmons as a top 20 pick.

New World Order 01-29-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17943951)
Yeah this idea sucks. :LOL:

Is this sarcasm Clayster?!!!

ThaVirus 01-29-2025 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17943872)
Whataboutism to deflect from your current L. I never said I have never been wrong about anything, but you can tell Skyy is all anybody has recently because it's literally EVERYBODY'S go to.

Let's list the things you've been proven wrong about fairly recently:

- Belichick can't draft for shit (absolutely hilarious that you argued against this)

- Tomlin isn't mediocre as **** and NFL purgatory (proven yet again this year)

Going back a few years, this argument in particular reminds me SO much of you arguing that Hockenson wasn't clearly a better player than Noah Fant when the Broncos signed Russ. The best part is that was a side argument where you were arguing for Russ and all those weapons in Denver!

You're absolutely ****ing clueless LMAO

-is wrong all the time

argues that he’s not

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-29-2025 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17943940)
Why not just up thuneys money a bit and put him at LT.

You’d be resolving a huge need in the offseaso

This run he's been on has been legendary, but he doesn't have the build for an LT. He's a G and we should find an actual LT.

Sassy Squatch 01-29-2025 01:14 PM

Where Tomlin has really ****ed up is the OC. After Todd Haley left, the development on that side of the ball ****ing cratered.

New World Order 01-29-2025 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17943993)
This run he's been on has been legendary, but he doesn't have the build for an LT. He's a G and we should find an actual LT.

You’re going to have to search the recycle bins for one.

We’re going to be drafting from 30 every year for the next 10

staylor26 01-29-2025 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17943989)
-is wrong all the time

argues that he’s not

More deflection.

- Chris Jones
- Trent McDuffie
- George Karlaftis
- LJ Sneed
- Rashee Rice
- Xavier Worthy

Just a few prospects I hit on before they were even Chiefs.

What the **** have YOU ever been right about? Easy to point to a huge miss like Skyy Moore when all of your draft takes come in hindsight.

ThaVirus 01-29-2025 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17943995)
Where Tomlin has really ****ed up is the OC. After Todd Haley left, the development on that side of the ball ****ing cratered.

Turns out it’s really difficult to win postseason games in this league.

Imagine calling Tomlin mediocre. As if mediocre coaches win Super Bowls then trip over their dick and go back to another one three years later and then go fifteen years without a losing season.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17943998)
More deflection.

- Chris Jones
- Trent McDuffie
- George Karlaftis
- LJ Sneed
- Rashee Rice
- Xavier Worthy

Just a few prospects I hit on before they were even Chiefs.

What the **** have YOU ever been right about? Easy to point to a huge miss like Skyy Moore when all of your draft takes come in hindsight.

I don’t make predictions because I’m not a blowhard like you. You crave validation from a bunch of grown men you’ve never met and that’s pathetic.

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Bl00dyBizkitz 01-29-2025 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17943996)
You’re going to have to search the recycle bins for one.

We’re going to be drafting from 30 every year for the next 10

Then trade up. Or stay put and keep on taking your shots until someone hits. Or hope that Kingsley improves this offseason.

Idk. There's not much else you can do.

Give defenses a full offseason to prepare for Thuney at LT and I don't think it's going to go so well.

staylor26 01-29-2025 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17944014)
Turns out it’s really difficult to win postseason games in this league.

Imagine calling Tomlin mediocre. As if mediocre coaches win Super Bowls then trip over their dick and go back to another one three years later and then go fifteen years without a losing season.



I don’t make predictions because I’m not a blowhard like you. You crave validation from a bunch of grown men you’ve never met and that’s pathetic.

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What in the entire **** are you talking about? LMAO

So now simply being a draftubator means you "crave validation"? It's literally just for fun. I am passionate about it, like everybody else, and it's a fun challenge. I just happen to be pretty ****ing good at it.

This is all just one big deflection from the fact that you can't take a ****ing L. First you weren't even arguing that Coleman was in the same league as Worthy, then you went right back to arguing it because I came with receipts. Such a disingenuous cowardly bundle of sticks you are.

New World Order 01-29-2025 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17944028)
Then trade up. Or stay put and keep on taking your shots until someone hits. Or hope that Kingsley improves this offseason.

Idk. There's not much else you can do.

Give defenses a full offseason to prepare for Thuney at LT and I don't think it's going to go so well.

I heard the same things during our playoff stretch

Demonpenz 01-29-2025 01:36 PM

He has been great this year.

staylor26 01-29-2025 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17944014)
Turns out it’s really difficult to win postseason games in this league.

Imagine calling Tomlin mediocre. As if mediocre coaches win Super Bowls then trip over their dick and go back to another one three years later and then go fifteen years without a losing season.

His teams are the epitome of 8-8 every single ****ing year, even if they win a couple more or less. It's the same average ****ing team every year. He's the definition of mediocre, and the only reason people like you say different is because he won a SB with Bill Cowher's team with a franchise QB already in place.

Not to mention to this day he has the support of one of the best organizations in football. If he were coaching for even an average organization, he would've been fired a long ****ing time ago.

If we can't be too hard on him for losing just about every year in the playoffs, we also can't give him too much credit for making it most years only to be one and done.

Shields68 01-29-2025 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17944046)
His teams are the epitome of 8-8 every single ****ing year, even if they win a couple more or less. It's the same average ****ing team every year. He's the definition of mediocre, and the only reason people like you say different is because he won a SB with Bill Cowher's team with a franchise QB already in place.

Not to mention to this day he has the support of one of the best organizations in football. If he were coaching for even an average organization, he would've been fired a long ****ing time ago.

If we can't be too hard on him for losing just about every year in the playoffs, we also can't give him too much credit for making it most years only to be one and done.

To me he gets the most out of a team that is completely shit at qb and really outside 3 or 4 defensive players below average. The only good reason to fire him is it would help the tanking efforts. There problem seems more on the player acquisition side.

htismaqe 01-29-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17944062)
To me he gets the most out of a team that is completely shit at qb and really outside 3 or 4 defensive players below average. The only good reason to fire him is it would help the tanking efforts. There problem seems more on the player acquisition side.

They've drafted a lot of top tier talent that's just flamed out though, like at WR.

Wallcrawler 01-29-2025 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17944014)
Turns out it’s really difficult to win postseason games in this league.

Imagine calling Tomlin mediocre. As if mediocre coaches win Super Bowls then trip over their dick and go back to another one three years later and then go fifteen years without a losing season.



I don’t make predictions because I’m not a blowhard like you. You crave validation from a bunch of grown men you’ve never met and that’s pathetic.

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Mike Tomlin is the poster child for mediocrity. Winning seasons. Wow. Okay so with Tomlin, you'll get at least 9 wins, and should you somehow find yourself in the post season, you'll be out in round 1 as the mini-bye for whoever plays you.

Every year, the Steelers are a big pile of meh. They're coached just good enough to barely win more than they lose.

Didn't they just go from first in their division, to last, in 10 days?

You may be correct in questioning calling Tomlin mediocre. He's trending towards bad.

Love this guy's commentary on KO compilations, but this was some scathing commentary about his Steelers.

Lmmfgdao the only way we win a playoff game is in Madden. Skip to 5:15 for Tomlin remarks.

https://youtu.be/Fng_l5zyCHU?si=p5s047bIHc1lQieB

Sassy Squatch 01-29-2025 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17944063)
They've drafted a lot of top tier talent that's just flamed out though, like at WR.

Yeah, player development was ****ing atrocious. Randy Finctner and Matt Canada will do that to you.

htismaqe 01-29-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17944068)
Yeah, player development was ****ing atrocious. Randy Finctner and Matt Canada will do that to you.

It doesn't help that their scouting department either doesn't see, or doesn't care about, character concerns.


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