Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16813546)

The best part for Moore scoring that touchdown in the Super Bowl is build confidence in himself. I think that's been one of his issues holding him back from his potential as a rookie was lack of confidence. Now he should be bursting with confidence and I think we will see that early on next season and he will take a leap his Sophomore year.



**** yeah.


Phili deserved to lose having to guys being on opposite ends run same route be wide the **** open for touchdowns. Epic clowning the other team.

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 16813546)

The best part for Moore scoring that touchdown in the Super Bowl is build confidence in himself. I think that's been one of his issues holding him back from his potential as a rookie was lack of confidence. Now he should be bursting with confidence and I think we will see that early on next season and he will take a leap his Sophomore year.



**** yeah.


Phili deserved to lose having to guys being on opposite ends run same route be wide the **** open for touchdowns. Epic clowning the other team.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16813890)

He didn't get it wrong it was Kelce's mess up

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=347619

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16813906)

Holy shit LMAO

Poor Skyy. Dude did absolutely nothing wrong, but the narrative is that HE was the one who lined up incorrectly.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16813906)

Holy shit LMAO

Poor Skyy. Dude did absolutely nothing wrong, but the narrative is that HE was the one who lined up incorrectly.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 16813977)

Mahomes also was able to retrieve the ball and give it to Skyy. Love our QB taking care of his team mates

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16813972)

Yeah, I feel a little for Skyy. Because of a few rookie mistakes and the punt return debacle, everyone is going to assume that he was the one lined up wrong, when it wasn't. But that's going to be the narrative for as long as he's a Chief anyway, because Chief Fan can't be bothered to get it correct.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16813996)

Feels like we will be having to correct people on this narrative for the rest of time.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16814006)

Meh. Skyy's still got to improve significantly in a few areas; I get the criticisms, or at least some of them. But I think he'll grow into a pretty good WR for Andy. I'll let Skyy's play next season speak for itself. Eventually Skyy will shut the haters up all by himself.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16814000)

Lost a little in this chaos is the fact that Toney had to know what had happened in order to not go in motion and instead point at Moore to indicate to Mahomes that Moore should go from that side instead. So heads up recognition from the other new guy that the 'old' guy Kelce had actually ****ed up the play and how to fix it. Mahomes of course, immediately recognizes that-yeah, that'll work. And then Skyy does the Corndog route. Was that even the route he was supposed to run? Probably? Maybe not? But you can see he knows he's all alone and is rushing that route as fast as he can to get his head around.

Ha! Nice all around.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16814007)

I'm just talking about that play. It reminds me of when the media gets something wrong, and by the time there's a correction, the narrative has already spread.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16812556)

Baby steps.

First - line up in the right spot 20 games into the season.

Second - displace Justin Watson on the depth chart.

Third - Hall of Fame

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 16813474)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More on the wrong formation TD to Skyy Moore. Mahomes was just a little annoyed. &quot;I called it right, they lined up wrong&quot; ��<br><br>He still figured it out because he&#39;s a GOAT ��<br><br>(SN: Frank Clark&#39;s reaction ����) <a href="https://t.co/2gVXTzdRWi">pic.twitter.com/2gVXTzdRWi</a></p>&mdash; Paul��☮️Pacheco stan acct���� (@PaulHBK) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulHBK/status/1626025437401866241?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 16, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I may need to see my doctor about a four hour erection after watching this. This answers a lot of the questions being discussed about the Moore play.

Watch it quick because it may come down. Not sure this clip is sanctioned.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16814000)

Lost a little in this chaos is the fact that Toney had to know what had happened in order to not go in motion and instead point at Moore to indicate to Mahomes that Moore should go from that side instead. So heads up recognition from the other new guy that the 'old' guy Kelce had actually ****ed up the play and how to fix it. Mahomes of course, immediately recognizes that-yeah, that'll work. And then Skyy does the Corndog route. Was that even the route he was supposed to run? Probably? Maybe not? But you can see he knows he's all alone and is rushing that route as fast as he can to get his head around.

Ha! Nice all around.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16814329)

You'll notice that Mahomes said THEY lined up offsides. If it was just Moore, he wouldn't have used a plural pronoun.

Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush (Post 16814337)

Unless Skyy's pronouns are "they/them".

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16814329)

You'll notice that Mahomes said THEY lined up offsides. If it was just Moore, he wouldn't have used a plural pronoun.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16814358)

But based on the article that was posted, it was just Kelce that lined up on the wrong side.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16814371)

It's entirely possible that Pat was being PC and saying "they" so as to not single anyone out. Entirely possible.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814416)

Do you think there is any chance that Skyy just wanted to STEAL the TD from Toney?

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814416)

Do you think there is any chance that Skyy just wanted to STEAL the TD from Toney? The whole team had to know we could torch them on these motion plays in this specific situation from the film room during the week and the last one in this game. Skyy wanted to join the party. Not sure if that would be a good or a bad thing.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814416)

Do you think there is any chance that Skyy just wanted to STEAL the TD from Toney? The whole team had to know we could torch them on these motion plays in this specific situation from the film room during the week and the last one in this game. Skyy wanted to join the party. Not sure if that would be a good or a bad thing.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814416)

Do you think there is any chance that Skyy just wanted to STEAL the TD from Toney? The whole team had to know we could torch them on these motion plays in this specific situation from the film room during the week and the last one in this game. Skyy wanted to join the party. Not sure if that would be a good or a bad thing.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16814015)

KT has been really amazing all around since becoming a Chief. Really impressive how intelligent he is. Also how reliable a pass-catcher he's been, considering one of the criticisms about him was inconsistency in that regard.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16814422)

What did Moore do to STEAL anything from anyone?!? I don't understand the blame being cast on Moore here.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16813996)

Feels like we will be having to correct people on this narrative for the rest of time.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16814007)

I'm just talking about that play. It reminds me of when the media gets something wrong, and by the time there's a correction, the narrative has already spread.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16814421)

:facepalm:

Skyy wasn't the one that lined up wrong. It was Kelce.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16814429)

It goes beyond just lining up in the wrong place.

BWillie used the word "steal" as if Moore did this purposefully and maliciously to get "his".

He's openly implying that Moore, or any other Chiefs player for that matter, cared more about individual stats than winning a ****ing Lombardi.

The entire premise is silly.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814416)

Do you think there is any chance that Skyy just wanted to STEAL the TD from Toney? The whole team had to know we could torch them on these motion plays in this specific situation from the film room during the week and the last one in this game. Skyy wanted to join the party. Not sure if that would be a good or a bad thing.

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16814433)

Great googly moogly, you have to be trolling.

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16814433)

Great googly moogly, you have to be trolling.

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16814440)

Man you guys really have just got to take some breaths my bros

I just got home from Phx and watching all the Chiefs content and videos I can get my hands on. This was very interesting to see how it went down and who lined up wrong. Trying to understand what went right or wrong on the play. Hence ---- a question :)

lol

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16814451)

So, you admit to watching the clip in question, yes? And you saw Toney point Mahomes over to Moores side of the formation, correct? And you expect us to believe you came out of that with the belief Moore stole it from Toney? No, nobody here is ACTUALLY that slack jaw. You're just trolling, poorly, again.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16814421)

:facepalm:

Skyy wasn't the one that lined up wrong. It was Kelce.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16812078)

But at the same time, a guy having a 62 yard game or making a block can't be "See, I told you he'd break out!!!"

I mean if you're gonna try to claim you put one through the uprights, shouldn't you have to plant them SOMEHOW?

I do agree there are ways Moore can make himself valuable (if not 2nd round pick valuable) without having the kind of statistical impact many would like to see. But if someone's that bullish on him, shouldn't there be some sort of established baseline to prevent someone from throwing a dart and then drawing the bullseye around it?

Because that's exactly what our boy Pitt just did. "See, you haters were too eager!!! Silly Chief Fan!" When...uh...turns out he didn't even line up correctly.

If people can't hold their fire, then shouldn't they at least go on the record?

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16816340)

If we roll with Toney, Moore, Watson next year and don't retain MVS or JuJu...

1. Is this a possibility?
2. What do you think their statlines would be like?

Assuming we draft a WR in first three rounds but will be an interesting offszn

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16816340)

If we roll with Toney, Moore, Watson next year and don't retain MVS or JuJu...

1. Is this a possibility?
2. What do you think their statlines would be like?

Assuming we draft a WR in first three rounds but will be an interesting offszn

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16816340)

If we roll with Toney, Moore, Watson next year and don't retain MVS or JuJu...

1. Is this a possibility?
2. What do you think their statlines would be like?

Assuming we draft a WR in first three rounds but will be an interesting offszn

Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 16816345)

MVS is under contract for 23 and 24. Watson is an FA. MVS, Toney and Moore are what we have under contract that played.

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 16816317)

So if it's been mentioned, I missed it.

If Kelce had lined up correctly, what was the play call?

Toney was going to run the exact same corn dog route from the same side of the field he had done before?

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16816415)

Skyy's play was called "Tent" and it was a slightly different play than the one KT scored on, but had a similar RPO set up with the same motion.

I think Kelce was supposed to be lined up on Skyy's side, and the motion would have Skyy come in to a stacked formation, but sprint back out.

Kelce was on the wrong side, so Mahomes initially thought KT had the motion, but put it together with a couple seconds left that the play was still good to go, so long as Skyy ran the motion.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16822710)

This is pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16816434)

So the impression I got was that Kelce was lined up off the LOS but was supposed to be ON the LOS.

Toney could've then motioned over to the stack side of the formation. But because Kelce was off the LOS, had Toney motioned over, it would've created an illegal formation w/ the TE on the end of the formation but off the LOS.

But I get pretty damn lost on that stuff pretty fast. If it's true that Toney recognized that motioning over would create an illegal formation penalty, that's a REALLY heady move by him. Every bit as smart as anything Mahomes did on the play.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16823741)

We gon really rape once we get our shit together

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 16823892)

Imagine if this training staff can get Toney right....wow

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16816415)

Skyy's play was called "Tent" and it was a slightly different play than the one KT scored on, but had a similar RPO set up with the same motion.

I think Kelce was supposed to be lined up on Skyy's side, and the motion would have Skyy come in to a stacked formation, but sprint back out.

Kelce was on the wrong side, so Mahomes initially thought KT had the motion, but put it together with a couple seconds left that the play was still good to go, so long as Skyy ran the motion.

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 16823741)

We gon really rape once we get our shit together

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16838657)

DJ really doesn't like Skyy for some reason.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16838670)

I don't understand why folks like him tried to blame the SB play mixup on Skyy instead of Trav. It made zero sense.

Originally Posted by chop (Post 16838684)

I think if he's given more opportunities he will be fine and will be a good player for the Chiefs. He's had a year to get used to the speed of the league and, IMO, he has the skills to succeed here.

Originally Posted by chop (Post 16838684)

I think if he's given more opportunities he will be fine and will be a good player for the Chiefs. He's had a year to get used to the speed of the league and, IMO, he has the skills to succeed here.

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16838670)

I don't understand why folks like him tried to blame the SB play mixup on Skyy instead of Trav. It made zero sense.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16816434)

So the impression I got was that Kelce was lined up off the LOS but was supposed to be ON the LOS.

Toney could've then motioned over to the stack side of the formation. But because Kelce was off the LOS, had Toney motioned over, it would've created an illegal formation w/ the TE on the end of the formation but off the LOS.

But I get pretty damn lost on that stuff pretty fast. If it's true that Toney recognized that motioning over would create an illegal formation penalty, that's a REALLY heady move by him. Every bit as smart as anything Mahomes did on the play.