You are smarter than that... at least I thought.

Did you see any of the Colts game yesterday?
Did you watch the Packers game last night?
Did you watch how many TD's the Chargers WR's dropped?

Honestly I didn't feel the Chargers were going to come back because they just aren't that team. They don't fight hard and never give up to come back, they shit their pants in those situations and Rivers is not Rodgers.

It should be noted Hitchens had 15 tackles. If Berry can get healthy I think we can field a decent defense.

Ford looked pretty solid. Houston's play was disappointing.

This OL is soft. They have repeatedly proven they get stuffed in short yardage situations.

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Scandrick is going to the bench soon. This is ****ing embarrassing. Both 2nd half TD’s were on him and he looked lazy.

Mentioned in another thread, if those long passes that were dropped were caught, we lose.

Well, I don't know about that because I have faith that Mahomes could have matched it... but it does suggest this defense is ****ing horrible and I will continue to blame it's leader.

Me as well

Scandrick is a real problem.

Wide open TDs.

Offense is going to have to play flawless, just like he defense had to do the first 3 years of Alex.

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I'm not as worried about this defense as I was during the game. First game of the season, 100 degree heat and against one of the best offenses in the NFL. Yeah, you can look at the yards and the points but a lot of that was garbage time. You can sit here and blame Sutton's scheme but a good majority of the issues were personnel either ****ing up their coverage or not tackling. That will get ironed out. Do we have the 85 Bears defense? No. But we don't have the worst defense in the history of the NFL. They're just going to get tested a lot because of this offense.

If/when Eric Berry comes back he will come back with a vengeance and this defense will be much improved and can make up for Sutton's scheme because Eric Berry is a general on the field. I just don't know if we can count on him as he has missed a lot of games for his career. His return will give me hope this defense can come together .

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We beat the shit out of them through 3 quarters and then played prevent. It was 31-12 at the end of the 3rd.

Garbage time stats

That doesn't take into account that they also dropped numerous passes through 3 quarters. That kind of skews the stats in our favor.

KC defense wore down. You can’t argue that. They were on the field a ton and it showed when up 38-20 and in the 4th quarter

Dumb

Holy shit am I excited for Pitt.

Couple of takeaways regarding the defense:

1. Run defense looked adequate- not dominating but definitely held their own.
2. I thought Steven Nelson had a real nice game. I was worried how Nelson, Scandrick and everyone not named Fuller was going to perform but I thought Nelson was strong for most of the game.
3. Hitchens had some up and downs- he did a real nice job of sniffing out a few screen passes and absolutely blowing them up. Struggled a little bit on some of the plays where he was man on man with Gordon though.
4. Nice to have Parker back in the fold- played well and gives us more stability at the safety position until Berry returns.

The defense doesn't have to be dominant for this Chiefs team to be successful but holding the Chargers to 12 points in the first 3 quarters is a real good start. It would have been interesting to see how the defense was going to react if the Chargers didn't muff that punt, that was a game changer.

Good start.

Yeah, through the first three quarters we were holding them on a pace to only have 424 yards of offense.

422 thank you very much.

A bit more context though, with the punt return, the long TD's etc, that's gonna put your d on the field a lot more.

Scandrick is Amerson but a bit better.

Having him as our 3rd CB is a disaster waiting to happen.

Teams will literally target him.

I still don't get how Veach managed the whole CB position this offseason. Not good.

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I remember the first play and thinking "**** Hunt missed a hole there on a cutback".

Upon second look, he did.

The only thing I would question is why he drafted a DE over a CB in the 2nd? Perhaps he saw greater value?

I doubt he wanted to trade Peters. His hands were tied there.

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Scrandrip should be cut. He embarrassed the defense out there.

He can't press the receiver at the line, looks slow, gave minimal effort once he was burned, bites on the first fake.

I want Veech to cut him to send a message to the others- do your job or look for a new one.

Maybe, maybe not. The offense wouldn't have curled up into a ball in the 4th quarter had we NEEDED to score.

I think it would have been a last team to have the ball wins type of game. Thankfully, though, Chargers gonna Charger.

Guess we will never know. And I don't really want to find out.

Hell, I even bought in a little bit, but I can't believe people were pumping the Chargers and Anthony Lynn again this offseason.

They threw it 50 times yesterday. That's pretty impressive.

Big market = more peeps = more compensation = less objectivity.

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Your Quatrain predicted the future- even if it did have 5 lines!

I knew it would be great mojo having you start the Game Thread. You should keep the magic rolling and do the Steelers too! :clap:

Sometimes I think there are fans that think we should just be able to field an all pro at every spot and if we don't they should be cut.

So a player like Scrandrip, who was marginal at best his entire career, and has looked like shit in practice and preseason- then is solely responsible for half the Chargers points by being burned on simple head fakes- Should not be cut? :hmmm:

Its called Next Man Up. There is zero upside at all keeping him and letting other teams scorch him every game for easy-peasy Td's.

Scandrick was actually really ****ing good for awhile, he's just getting old, he's been in the league 10 ****ing years.

The guys behind him are ****ing worse than he is, how hard is that to understand?

Worse? Possibly. Young and lacking experience? Definitely.

A problem you risk though is if you play dudes before they are ready like say you put Tremon Smith out there. Some dudes never recover from getting beat, Marcus Cooper had it happen.

Old and Slow. Never should have been signed. Horrible in the preseason, shitty in practice, gave up 2 TD's where he was faked out of his jock and then gave minimal effort to catch up. :shake:

How could it get worse?

At least there is an upside playing one of our rookies- they might learn and get better. Srandrip is the worst CB since Gaines- as a matter of fact, Gaines sucked but was at least faster.

Can we really be a playoff team when 1 player is giving up 2 easy TD's a game and 150 plus yards of offense? No! :shake:

Had he not been signed you'd be watching David Amerson, want that?

Oh I understand. I think towards the middle of the season....you'll start to see guys like Smith and Ward getting more playing time over Scandrick.

Pffff

Horseshit.

If those guys can't recover from being beat, then they were NEVER going to be what we needed anyway.

Corners get beat. Big whoop. If that ruins your psyche then you're not an NFL caliber corner.

I expect to see these young guys play as the season goes on. Once they're more comfortable with the scheme, and once scamdick gets beaten like a drum a few more games.

You can legit ruin someone if you put them in a spot they aren't ready for, Tremon Smith is from a little bitty school, it's not like he's from Texas or something.

There is a huge laundry list of guys that were highly drafted that were ruined by coaching staffs and here we are with lowly drafted or UDFA rookie CB's that people want to play in the 2nd week of the year...see how that may be asking a little much?

I'd prefer Peters opposite Fuller.

Yeah, they'll work them in slow. It's been pretty typical of what they do with rookies that aren't super high draft picks ala Peters etc.

Because Tremon Smith is so much better than Scandrick

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Yea well me too but that ship sailed....personal issues are more important than winning at times I guess.

That is like asking if you want Aids or Cancer.

How about neither. Tremon Smith showed 10 times more potential in camp and preseason- plus he is the second fastest guy on the team.

Scrandrip was burned on a head nod during the Bears Preseason game, looked terrible.

Now gives up 2 walk in TD's because he chases the first fake and does not have any speed to recover. He is going to cost us a game- and it could be this week. You know the Steelers are watching those busted coverages and licking their chops how easy it will be to score.

Why yes I did watch the Packers game. I watched Kyle Fuller drop the game clinching INT that went right in his chest when nobody was around him.

Instead Rodgers won the game.

This happens in almost every game.

Please no more man press for Scandrick.

But everyone wanted press!

Yes, he is- Much better from what we have seen.

Smith is the 2nd fastest on the team- Scrandrip is the 2nd slowest. He makes Zombo look speedy.

Smith got roasted in preseason...by guys who got cut he wasn't exactly awesome.

And that TD was to Allen who ****ing ass raped Peters all over the field all the time.

There were people shitting on Fuller in the GDT for getting beat by Allen while bringing up Peters.

I swear some of the people on CP don’t even watch the games.

It takes more than speed to be a good corner

Phillip Gaines was faster than Marcus Peters too

Then they aren't the guy. If adversity ruins you instead of making you better, then you were never going to be that guy.

Yeah that's dumb. I thought Fuller had a good game. Allen murders every CB. He's very under rated.

You don't catch 102 passes by getting shut down by corners.

102 catches means you whooped EVERYONE's ass you played.

People forget taht the Chargers are the reigning #1 passing offense.

So you were ok running Mahomes out there last year?

That's complete and total horseshit.

I'm usually in line with Detox thinking wise, but I agree with Pete here.

I think theres some context though that if shit starts going bad you have to give the kid some help, but you get better by playing.

Very much so. I know it was hot, they were holding the shit out of him, and leaky coverage on the back end doesn't allow for much time to generate a pass rush, but we need more of an impact from him and Jones.

I was also disappointed with the lack of production from Kelce and Watkins, though. I'm sure Kelce and Houston just had rare off games. I won't worry about them until we get a few weeks in.

Watkins on the other hand needs to get his shit together. I'm not one to harp on drops and the like but for $16m per you'd better catch most every pass that touches your hands. And you should contribute a bit more when the guy across from you damn near houses every touch.

Eh, if he's not getting balls, whats he supposed to do? I know he had the one drop, but that's gonna happen.

We only threw it 25 times. I know we wanna see a lot of numbers across the board, but when you only throw it that many times, not gonna have a lot of guy put up big #'s.

This is just a continuation of his lack of production in the preseason. He was the least efficient receiver aside from Kelce yesterday.

I know Kelce is awesome but not too sure about Watkins place in this offense yet.. which I why I'm coming down harder on him.

Yup. I was even gonna mention that i said the same exact thing about Mahomes last year.

Watkins' performances so far are puzzling.

He has a reputation for NOT dropping passes. Is he a Donkey spy?

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lol no it's not.

I'm not saying the rooks won't have growing pains, or need to be all pros or some bs right off the bat.

But playing football, getting reps, does not ruin good players.

If a player is so mentally weak that he can't respond to adversity, then he's simply not wired to be a great player. ESPECIALLY at the DB position.

Where is a fabulously talented mod when you need one?

FAX

How is that account not banned already?

Not everyone is going to be a great player though, and sometimes once you lose confidence it's hard to get it back.

Just saying, as a WR, how is he supposed to produce if he doesn't get enough targets?

He had 5 targets.. should net you more than 30 yards for $16m.

Watkins should spend the next week trying to catch bells that Mahomes throws as hard as he can.

Watkins should come into his own as the season progresses. The fact is his presence alone Is as vital to the offense as his stats will be moving forward. I thought he made a great run and catch in the redzone which lead to a TD. So he's already made a small contribution.

I also loved seeing some of the dumb media heads have to backtrack today. The likes of Kay Adams looked very bitter that her "AFC West favorites and superbowl finalists" got beat once again by the Chiefs :D

Watkins is going to be fine, he missed one and responded by snagging an important one to set up 1st and goal.

Tyreek was on a different level yesterday nothing wrong with feeding him the ball, there will be teams that decide to double up on Hill and that's when Watkins and Kelce will do their damage, the point is it's pick your poison not that they all are gonna be over 100 every game.

Then i maintain that said player doesn't have the makeup to make it in this league then.

Most dudes taken in the 5th round or going UDFA in a pass heavy league starved for good DB play tend to not make it...

Most players in general tend to not make it. The good ones do.

How did being thrown in the fire hurt Brandon Carr?

You're either going to be a good player or you're not. I don't believe in "damaging" players.

Players bust or they don't. It's really that simple. You're an NFL player, or you're not.

He was also drafted to play cover 2 which is much less stressful on a CB than this man up scheme is.

There’s just so much more to it though.

Look at Jared Goff as a prime example. Hell alex smith too