The Cavs traded away LeBron ****ing James for only two first round picks and two second round picks. Granted it was after the season when it was known he was going to Miami, but it's similar in the sense it's known Love is going to Cleveland at some point.

Getting bird rights is huge. The cavs will take a huge haircut taking him in free agency.

the MLB and the NBA should both have a franchise tag just like the NFL

in the NBA you can only use it on the same player twice, he gets a 1 year max deal under the terms of the tag...

so your stud can't just leave after his rookie contract...he has to risk 2 1 year max deals before he can hold his franchise hostage or just take the max extension

sick of the carmelo/dwight/klove/lebron decision shit that totally puts small markets at a huge disadvantage.

Cleveland is just ****ing lucky LeBron is from Akron.

and you can't use a tag on a guy who has accrued 7 years or more of service time in the NBA

It's not similar at all.

He is beyond reeruned

Says the guys who got butt hurt when I said Love would come to Cleveland and we wouldn't have I give up much. Looks like I might have been right, again.

Don't count your chickens
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You haven't gotten shit yet spanky

They could do it, but they'd have to get rid of everybody except Lebron, Kyrie, and Wiggins.

Yeah, Lebron probably wants to lose for a year prior to getting his team together, which according to you, likely wouldn't win it their first year together. He's got all the time and patience in the world.

Nothing says "patience" like a 2 year deal with an opt out after year one.

Lol they aren't losing for a year. A worse version of LeBron took a less talented team than this current one to the finals. He isn't alone this time. He also pretty much took the Heat to the finals himself this year. The Heat also have a shitty coach.

His letter you preach about does though.

You don't know what caliber of coach you have. Don't act like he's automatically better than spo
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Spo's a shitty coach? Stupid ****ing Cavs fans. Spo won 43 and 47 games before LeBron and Bosh even showed up.

He's more than likely better than Brown though, as is our assistant. James, Irving, and Waiters is a big 2 1/2. That can get pretty far. Don't underestimate what adding the best player on the planet, competent coaching, and good experienced at winning role players can do for a very young and very talented team that had the worse coach in the league.

Yeah, he sucks. Brown has won more games than that. He sucks even more.

Says the franchise that hired some coach from Russia and has never won shit.

Do you just pull things out of your ass on a constant basis, or do you save that for this thread? I haven't been preaching about any letter.

Says the franchise that hired the schnozberries guy from Super Troopers to be your head coach.

The East is so bad that it shouldn't be too difficult for him to get back to the Finals next season.

I agree. Don't know what they have in Blatt. But what's completely ridiculous is how many people have dismissed Blatt, yet nobody flinches any time a team hires a coach with almost no coaching experience. I mean, the Knicks just hired a coach who just retired a few months ago. Even before Lebron came on board, I've heard more question marks around Blatt's credentials than Fisher.

AGAIN you are calling a coach who hasnt coached a single nba game a "competent coach" when there is no way to say that for sure.


now though if he is you will quote this post and say you were right and I was wrong when I never said anything either way, just basically telling you to shut up until games start.

im not just dismissing blatt if that's what you are getting at.

I THINK he will do just fine, but you never know.

It's a 25 player deal involving neither Wiggin Waiter or Bennett. Cavs give up 12 years of 1st and 2nd and Craig Ehlo/zillashack

That wasn't directed at you. I am commenting on how I've heard more questions about Blatt even before Lebron was signed than Derek Fisher and Jason Kidd (last year) combined. I don't get why people think a guy like Blatt is more of a risk than a guy who's never even assisted coached.

got ya:D

The 3-team trade I brought up suggested giving up Wiggins, Waiters, Bennett, and picks. The 2-team trades I've brought up say Waiters + Bennett + picks at minimum, but that Flip is not going to flinch on Wiggins + Waiters or Bennett + picks.

I have no idea why you're gunning at me in this thread or lumping me in with rustshack. I haven't proposed anything controversial this entire thread except that I'm not a huge fan of giving up Wiggins to get Love unless a prospect center is packaged in.

We'll know in 30 days if Wiggins is traded!

I don't think we'll wait that long. We will probably hear of a deal sooner than that. It just can't be officially announced until 30 days.

Disagree. I had no idea who blatt was prior to lebron's decision and this thread.

Blatt's a risk because he will be the first to fall on the sword if anything goes wrong. Lebron loves/wants Calipari and the first sign of failure will open the door for that scenario.

Calipari has to regret not taking that deal, but he didn't know Lebron was going to go back to that shithole city/team so I don't blame him for not being the first chip to fall.

True, he'll be held if things don't pan out right away!

that's how it works in the NBA so yeah

LeBron was able to win with that coach in Miami. Hell he even made Mike Brown look good. Blatt won't have anything to worry about, especially with Lue helping him out who will probably be a HC himself here in a few years.

Blatt is who I wanted Cleveland to hire. Crazy that people haven't heard of him before LeBron. Shows how much basketball knowledge some people have.

yes it's crazy that people have never heard of a guy who hid away in some bumble**** Russian basketball league nobody gives a shit about who the best player he's ever coached was Trajon Langdon.

how dare those people not know such important basketball knowledge about russia's basketball talent!!!! how DARE you people!

He is an unknown. Nobody knows what to expect from him.

But I would much rather have an experienced coach like that who has a bit of unknown than, say, Lionel Hollins or Byron Scott. Of course if we're comparing him to guys like Spoelstra or Doc Rivers, let alone Popovich, that's crazy talk right now. I would rather have an experienced coach in a different league than someone like Jason Kidd or Derek Fisher, who have never even assistant coached, let alone been a head coach.

I just don't understand how a coach of his experience level is held under so much more scrutiny in a league where washed out veteran coaches still hop from team to team, and former players with no experience are landing an extraordinary amount of jobs.

Blatt is an offensive genius who adapts to the personnel he has. He will do just fine. He's known to get more out of less, and wins wherever he goes. I also assume that LeBron has an idea of what he's getting into since his friend played for Blatt for three years and LeBron has even been over there to watch him play.. Not to mention playing against Blatt coached teams in the Olympics.

Hearing No Wiggins no deal

Let's be careful about calling him an offensive genius.

But he's been groomed from really good offensive coaches and has a reputation for being extremely liked by players. And even if it is in a much easier league, he builds winners. Let's see if that translates on the NBA level. Different types of players, much higher level of competition.

Funk you blowmo jr. Offensive genius ROFL

Maybe do a little research on him, I'm far from the first person to call him that. Actually anyone who knows anything about him calls him that.

The way the Timberwolves are ran it wouldn't shock me at all if they kept Love for the year and blew their chances at a top player in the draft LMAO

To be fair, he's probably more of a combination of Auerbach, Phil Jackson, Jack Ramsay and John Wooden.

You'd rather have him than a guy who has actually won in the playoffs (Hollins)?

His first choice was his boo...Todd Haley

Are you just trying to be contrarian? 13 team passed on Hollins last year and 7 teams passed on him this offseason. If Mike Smith and Rex Ryan get fired after this year, they wouldn't be on the top of my list either.

Yes, I would rather hire unknowns like Steve Kerr or Blatt over a known like Hollins. I don't think Blatt was the best hire this offseason. As of right now, I'd put him as a middle of the road coach who could potentially much better or much worse. I don't know what he is. But it was still an interesting hire. How could anyone not think it isn't worth a shot?

He may be interesting and worth a shot, but I'm not sure I'd take him over Hollins.

Got maybe only 2 years of Lebron and hiring a coach who could be a dumpster fire.... Yeah makes sense.

You're entitled to that opinion. Hollins was a known yet wasn't coveted by anyone.

In the NFL, I'm the same way. Unless the coach was a stud in his first stint, I'd rather hire an unknown vs. a known.

The same can be said for most coaches entering their first gig. Unless your suggestion is to go with a safe candidate every single time. What's known about Blatt is that he typically has great relationships with his players. And he is very well versed in an offense that is run on many teams already. If teams are comfortable hiring guys like Derek Fisher who just retired, they shouldn't be uncomfortable hiring an experienced guy like Blatt even if he has no NBA experience.

and how many unknowns win an NBA championship?

the known coaches win the ****ing thing EVERY YEAR.

It's not like the NFL at all

What known title winners were in the market this year? Stan Van Gundy was the only guy who came even close to an NBA final.

Did the Heat get as far as they did because of Spoelstra? Or because of talent? Did the Thunder make the finals because of talent or Scotty Brooks? Not that Spoelstra is a bad coach. But sorry, he isn't an elite coach like Phil Jackson or Popovich. And NBA teams clearly agree with me, because a high % of coaching hires the past 2 years are guys with minimal or no playoff experience, let alone coaching experience.

Lakers sign another former Cleveland coach. Scott signs for 4 years 17 mil.

Lakers also planning to play Boozer at the 3...

Shut the **** up, you dipshit ****ing poser. Like you've seen a single game the mother****er has ever coached. You talk out of your ass about the summer league, yet you're on top of ****ing things about Euroleague basketball.

Jesus Christ.

LMAO

he's a bandwagon fan boy. everyone relax

not a real fan

LMAO
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it's hilarious because he just got done telling us we only think what we're told to think by ESPN

but then he starts talking about Blatt as an offensive genius

and then Hamas posted that

and it was awesome

How exactly am I a bandwagon fan when I've made Cavalier posts for years? There's just a whole lot of butthurt here that my basketball teams are good.

I love how Cleveland fans here will call Erik Spoelstra overrated but then turn around and say Dion Waiters is a future all star/James Harden clone and Anthony Bennett has value

the backwards view you guys have of the NBA is hilarious.

A new report out is that Love doesn't want to opt-in for 2015 and wants to be a FA to see what else is out there.

If true, you don't include Wiggins in that package. No way you trade that promise away for a one year rental.

Even as a diehard LeBron fan, a part of me STILL hopes the Cavs fail just because their fans on here are being such homeristic douchebags.

I agree

You realize every fan base does this right? So you literally hate every team, including your own teams because you have homer fans too.

I'm surprised LeBron is going back to 23 also. He wore 6 in practice his last year in Cleveland and was going to wear it if he had stayed the next year. Good thing I didn't burn my jersey like a lot of the other guys!

Other fanbases aren't flooding this thread with their homerism, though.

there are Heat, Lakers, Spurs, Mavericks, Golden State, Clippers, Bulls, Timberwolves and even the Wizards fan(s) that post in this thread and don't do anything close to what the Cavs fans in here do.

So no, not every team's fan bases do the "same thing"

RustZillah folks

Did those teams just have the top pick in the best draft since 03, sign the best player on the planet, and hire a coach that is commonly compared to Popovich while being called an offensive genius?

I'd say it's pretty common to get excited in situations like this offseason.

The Thunder are my favorite team and I'm regularly told by the resident fan here that I'm not homer enough (and should stop following the team) because I think Presti makes idiotic moves.

Offensive genius Pop-clone Blatt has never been the head coach of an NBA franchise. How could the rest of the league be so stupid?

They signed Michael Jordan, just drafted Pippen, and are being lead by Pop Jackson ROFL what a dumb****

I'm just saying that's very common things said about him. Even on your precious espn.

Commonly compared to popovich while beng an offensive genius?

Show four different links stating that.
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