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Marcellus 09-30-2014 06:42 PM

If you like brett in your Saison.........This beer is funky. Tasty but overpriced at $8 for 17oz.

http://prairieales.com/wp-content/up...le-320x400.png

TimBone 09-30-2014 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10964258)
If you like brett in your Saison.........This beer is funky. Tasty but overpriced at $8 for 17oz.

http://prairieales.com/wp-content/up...le-320x400.png

I prefer Prairie Hop, but this one was pretty good too.

Marcellus 09-30-2014 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10964611)
I prefer Prairie Hop, but this one was pretty good too.


I have a bottle of Prairie Hop I am saving for the weekend as well as some Funky Galaxy and a 4 pack of Pirate Bomb which was $36. Better be good!

TimBone 09-30-2014 07:24 PM

I hear the Bomb! Is wonderful. Never had it, though. I'm not huge into stouts. Let me know what you think of Funky Galaxy. I had a weird experience with it. I had it and didn't like it, but for two months after I couldn't stop thinking about it and wanting to try it again. Got my hands on another bottle, and then didn't like it again. Really weird.

Marcellus 09-30-2014 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10964666)
I hear the Bomb! Is wonderful. Never had it, though. I'm not huge into stouts. Let me know what you think of Funky Galaxy. I had a weird experience with it. I had it and didn't like it, but for two months after I couldn't stop thinking about it and wanting to try it again. Got my hands on another bottle, and then didn't like it again. Really weird.

That's interesting as hell.

If you really like Farmhouse Ales I had one from Off Color Brewing (Old brew master from Goose Island) called Apex Predator that I loved. The reviews have been spotty but I was super impressed.


http://static.squarespace.com/static...pg?format=300w

TimBone 09-30-2014 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10964707)
That's interesting as hell.

If you really like Farmhouse Ales I had one from Off Color Brewing (Old brew master from Goose Island) called Apex Predator that I loved. The reviews have been spotty but I was super impressed.


http://static.squarespace.com/static...pg?format=300w

I tried it last month in a growler and enjoyed it! I love farmhouse ales so much that when I went to fill up my growler with Pumking and saw Apex Predator, I bought a second growler on the spot just to try it. I had no idea the guy making it was the old brew master at Goose Island. I've been disappointed with Goose Island farmhouse ales as a whole. Like I said though, I enjoyed the Apex Predator.

TimBone 09-30-2014 07:52 PM

I should mention that I'm way down in Louisiana, so I was surprised to find that on tap down here.

Marcellus 09-30-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10964903)
I tried it last month in a growler and enjoyed it! I love farmhouse ales so much that when I went to fill up my growler with Pumking and saw Apex Predator, I bought a second growler on the spot just to try it. I had no idea the guy making it was the old brew master at Goose Island. I've been disappointed with Goose Island farmhouse ales as a whole. Like I said though, I enjoyed the Apex Predator.

You don't like Sophie or Matilda?

GloucesterChief 09-30-2014 08:00 PM

This was some great stuff:

http://www.vilacaps.com/caps/1753-sc...ventinus-6.jpg

Great Weizenbock.

TimBone 09-30-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10964975)
You don't like Sophie or Matilda?

I did like Matilda, but it's a Belgian Pale Ale and I had it the same night I had Orval, and Orval is a step above to me.

Sofie was fine, but I was expecting a bit more.

The one that really threw me off of them was Gillian, I believe. It was so sour it was like I was drinking a warhead candy. My mouth was wore out after I finished it, and my stomach was upset. That and Pepe Nero was disappointing.

phisherman 09-30-2014 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10965132)
I did like Matilda, but it's a Belgian Pale Ale and I had it the same night I had Orval, and Orval is a step above to me.

Sofie was fine, but I was expecting a bit more.

The one that really threw me off of them was Gillian, I believe. It was so sour it was like I was drinking a warhead candy. My mouth was wore out after I finished it, and my stomach was upset. That and Pepe Nero was disappointing.

Gillian is crazy good. It's a blonde sour with strawberries and white pepper aged in wine barrels. I had one bottle of it last year, so, so good. Also so, so expensive at almost $30 per bomber.

TimBone 09-30-2014 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 10965435)
Gillian is crazy good. It's a blonde sour with strawberries and white pepper aged in wine barrels. I had one bottle of it last year, so, so good. Also so, so expensive at almost $30 per bomber.

The sour farmhouse ales are just not my style, man. I can't handle it.

phisherman 09-30-2014 08:42 PM

It's not even really all THAT sour. It has a lot of fruit character.

Sours are a funny style; they took a while to stick with me. I just kind of kept plugging away and trying them when I had the chance. Now I can't get enough of them. And I've had some WEIRD ones.

TimBone 09-30-2014 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 10965466)
It's not even really all THAT sour. It has a lot of fruit character.

Sours are a funny style; they took a while to stick with me. I just kind of kept plugging away and trying them when I had the chance. Now I can't get enough of them. And I've had some WEIRD ones.

It may not be really sour to others. Maybe I just have a sensitivity to it. I can't do sour much at all. As a kid, I would take the warhead candies and rinse the sour powder off of the outside just to get to the sweet part.

I love farmhouse ales, so it's kind of a double edged sword. I pretty much buy them on sight to try them, and you a lot of times I never knew whether it's gonna be sour until I pour it and take that first sniff. I've suffered through a lot of sour farmhouse ales because I didn't want to pour them out.

TimBone 10-02-2014 10:58 PM

Is Boulevard Two Jokers the normal taste to expect from a Witbier? Or is it a bit unique? I'm asking because I really like it, and am looking to try more. I kind of wrote Witbiers off because of the last two I've tried, one was bad and the other was Dogfish Head Red & White which I know is not the typical Witbier. Any recommendations?

Reaper16 10-02-2014 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10974316)
Is Boulevard Two Jokers the normal taste to expect from a Witbier? Or is it a bit unique? I'm asking because I really like it, and am looking to try more. I kind of wrote Witbiers off because of the last two I've tried, one was bad and the other was Dogfish Head Red & White which I know is not the typical Witbier. Any recommendations?

Quite unique, considering it has all that lactic acidity going on. It's like a Berliner Weisse mixed with an imperial wheat beer. With spices. It's unique and so so dope.

TimBone 10-02-2014 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 10974723)
Quite unique, considering it has all that lactic acidity going on. It's like a Berliner Weisse mixed with an imperial wheat beer. With spices. It's unique and so so dope.

I figured it would not be the norm for Witbiers. Yea, it's super good. I'll have to pick up a couple more bottles when I'm back in Houston this month.

TimBone 10-02-2014 11:48 PM

Also, when I saw that Reaper replied to this thread, I would have bet my life that he was coming to verbally rape me for bashing the more sour farmhouse ales.

NewChief 11-22-2014 11:06 AM

Some friends just got back from Blackberry Farms. Got to try to Classic Saison and the Screaming Cock Dubbel.

The saison was really good.

Reaper16 11-22-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11136562)
Some friends just got back from Blackberry Farms. Got to try to Classic Saison and the Screaming Cock Dubbel.

The saison was really good.

I need to get out to Blackberry Farm sometime. One of my good friends was childhood friends with the chef & she gets to stay on the farm for a few days every year gratis. Of their beers, I've tried the Dubbel, but not the Saison.

Saulbadguy 11-22-2014 11:27 AM

I drank a Dark Lord (2011) last weekend. Amazing.

TimBone 11-22-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper16 (Post 11136577)
I need to get out to Blackberry Farm sometime. One of my good friends was childhood friends with the chef & she gets to stay on the farm for a few days every year gratis. Of their beers, I've tried the Dubbel, but not the Saison.

Clear out your PM's, please. Got something for you.

TimBone 11-22-2014 01:39 PM

Buffalo Bayou Brewery this morning. Not bad beers for being in Texas. Really enjoyed their Gingerbread Stout.

TimBone 11-22-2014 01:43 PM

Also finally got my hands on a Boulevard BBQ.

And Collaboration No. 4. It's their Saison with Ommegang. Looking forward to trying it.

KCUnited 11-22-2014 02:51 PM

Welp drove all the way to Lawrence for Free State Owd Mac and it was sold out in 14 minutes.

Bearcat 11-28-2014 12:56 PM

Got out to grab some BCS (giving away singles this year :( ) and hit the stout jackpot. Surprised to find more Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Stout, Warlock... Evil Twin Biscotti Break is excellent, Dragon's Milk Bourbon Barrel Stout, Schlafly's Bourbon Stout, some Great Divide Yetis, and a couple Organic Chocolate Stouts.... :drool:

phisherman 11-28-2014 06:15 PM

I got multiple 4 packs of regular BCS and Barleywine this year. ;)

TimBone 11-28-2014 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11149987)
Got out to grab some BCS (giving away singles this year :( ) and hit the stout jackpot. Surprised to find more Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Stout, Warlock... Evil Twin Biscotti Break is excellent, Dragon's Milk Bourbon Barrel Stout, Schlafly's Bourbon Stout, some Great Divide Yetis, and a couple Organic Chocolate Stouts.... :drool:

Both of those pumpkin stouts you mentioned are super good.

Bearcat 11-28-2014 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 11150784)
I got multiple 4 packs of regular BCS and Barleywine this year. ;)

One more and I'll have a four pack! :/

Might get more from someone in Omaha (the only place I've ever seen the coffee BCS), but with all the other beer I mentioned, BCS isn't as big of a priority.... I usually give BCS 8-12 months anyway, where as the Schlafly bourbon stout is almost just as good without the wait.


Guess I'll add... I'll trade BBQ for BCS, think I have 3 or 4 BBQs left.

phisherman 11-28-2014 09:57 PM

BCS is funny. The release always sneaks up on me and the demand for it is just silly. Fortunately, I have a beer buddy that works in the business and always sets aside a bit for me; I don't really ask for it. He just puts it on the counter for me when I come in. That's what happened. I went in to grab a 4 pack of River North IPA for my disc golf round enjoyment and when I got to the counter, there was a case box waiting for me, packed to the gills with BCS goodness.

Couple that with the fact that the price actually went down this year to 18.99 per 4 pack and I'm a happy camper.

I'm good on the BBQ. We buy a full case every year it gets released and end up giving a bunch away as gifts or taking it to events/gatherings. It's always a good beer conversation starter, along with the rest of the barrel aged Smokestack beers.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-10-2014 08:27 PM

made a quick stop by the liquor store tonight

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...de&oe=5509C9C5

TimBone 12-10-2014 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11183816)
made a quick stop by the liquor store tonight

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/...de&oe=5509C9C5

Nice haul! I finally got to try the BBQ myself last week. It was very good. That Boulevard-Ommegang saison was kinda disappointing to me. What style is the Master of disguise? I haven't cared for many of the Stone project beers. The quad was decent.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-11-2014 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11184023)
Nice haul! I finally got to try the BBQ myself last week. It was very good. That Boulevard-Ommegang saison was kinda disappointing to me. What style is the Master of disguise? I haven't cared for many of the Stone project beers. The quad was decent.

I'm not a big Stone fan myself, but was told this was great. It's a golden ale.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-11-2014 10:37 AM

so what are the odds Crown Town is overhyped?

Reaper16 12-11-2014 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 11184502)
so what are the odds Crown Town is overhyped?

It'll be overhyped by the same JoCo lames who overhype Chocolate Ale. In reality, it's going to be a tasty golden ale that's well worth your $11.

Bearcat 12-17-2014 10:08 PM

Anyone tried Crown Town? Heard it sold out at some places in 30-45 minutes, so yeah, probably as overhyped as Chocolate Ale... but, my dad saw a couple and grabbed them for me, so I'll try it eventually.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-18-2014 09:04 AM

wasn't bad. better warm weather beer IMHO. Bought 2 bottles, but wouldn't buy more probably at $13.

ghak99 12-18-2014 10:55 AM

I wanted to have someone pick some up for me, but after the past few special releases, it hardly seemed worth the effort.

KCUnited 12-18-2014 11:03 AM

Overall I thought Crown Town was a decent tasting Instagram Ale.

GloucesterChief 12-27-2014 11:10 AM

Picked up a variety of beers last night:

Founders Dirty Bastard - Scotch Ale
Founders Breakfast Stout - Double Chocolate and Oatmeal Stout
Stone's Levitation- Amber Ale
Real Ale Coffee Porter - Coffee Porter
Real Ale Devil's Backbone - Belgian Tripel
Franziskaner Naturtrub - hefe-weissbeir
Shiner 106th Birthday Beer - Chocolate Stout

The only one I have tried so far is the Birthday Beer and it is pretty damn good for the price. Heavy chocolate flavor and smell. Not sure I would call it a stout as it isn't as heavy as one would expect.

phisherman 12-29-2014 06:47 PM

I'm enjoying a bottle of Golden Nugget tonight from Toppling Goliath out of Decorah, IA. These guys put out some REALLY great beers. Iowa Planeteers, please get these beers and bring them to Planet gatherings. :)

Saulbadguy 12-29-2014 06:49 PM

narwhal

phisherman 12-29-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 11228019)
narwhal

Barrel aged or the regular 12 oz bottle? They're both great beers, but the barrel version this year was incredible (and expensive).

Saulbadguy 12-29-2014 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phisherman (Post 11228031)
Barrel aged or the regular 12 oz bottle? They're both great beers, but the barrel version this year was incredible (and expensive).

barrel aged of course

phisherman 12-29-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 11228111)
barrel aged of course

Solid. There's been so much beer getting released lately that it's been hard for the old wallet to survive.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 05:41 PM

Finally got my hands on Goose Island's Matilda.

Tasty.

Marcellus 12-31-2014 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11232769)
Finally got my hands on Goose Island's Matilda.

Tasty.

One of my favorites. I have a bottle in the fridge right now. You can find 4 packs here and there which is awesome.

Marcellus 12-31-2014 05:44 PM

I am drinking home brewed saison now, switching to All Day IPA later so I don't over do it, then finishing with a BBQ later.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11232773)
One of my favorites. I have a bottle in the fridge right now. You can find 4 packs here and there which is awesome.

Hell, I was lucky to find this. I've been looking for a while and happened to stumble across a bottle in a grocery store, of all places.

Is it a limited release? If so, what time of year?

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11232779)
I am drinking home brewed saison now, switching to All Day IPA later so I don't over do it, then finishing with a BBQ later.

I was unable to get any BBQ this year, but did buy the Schlafly version, which is pretty good.

My supply is dwindling because I'm going to cut out booze for a few months to drop some weight. Only a bottle of Sixth Glass and Tank 7 left, along with the Bourbon Stout from Schlafly.

Marcellus 12-31-2014 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11232784)
Hell, I was lucky to find this. I've been looking for a while and happened to stumble across a bottle in a grocery store, of all places.

Is it a limited release? If so, what time of year?

Year round. it seems to be becoming more available recently.

I am guessing you can taste the Brett in it. Its a really nice crisp beer with a fantastic little bit of funk.

If you can ever find their The Illinois Imperial IPA snag that up. Its seasonal though and tough to find. Released in Feb.

Marcellus 12-31-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11232795)
I was unable to get any BBQ this year, but did buy the Schlafly version, which is pretty good.

My supply is dwindling because I'm going to cut out booze for a few months to drop some weight. Only a bottle of Sixth Glass and Tank 7 left, along with the Bourbon Stout from Schlafly.

Where you at now? I have 5 bottles of BBQ and Sams here has cases of it right now. I could hook you up.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11232813)
Where you at now? I have 5 bottles of BBQ and Sams here has cases of it right now. I could hook you up.

STL. We have a Costco membership, I didn't think to look there.

Appreciate the offer, but I'm planning on going pretty strict come Friday. No booze or soda, and a lot of chicken, fish and greens.

KCUnited 12-31-2014 05:56 PM

Had a Narwhal (non barrel aged) on tap earlier today.

Popping a 2nd Shift Katy that we grabbed at the brewery back in July.

Marcellus 12-31-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11232819)
STL. We have a Costco membership, I didn't think to look there.

Appreciate the offer, but I'm planning on going pretty strict come Friday. No booze or soda, and a lot of chicken, fish and greens.

Best of luck, I am tightening things down myself but I will indulge at times.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11232831)
Best of luck, I am tightening things down myself but I will indulge at times.

Thanks. It's pretty easy. If I cut out those things, eat moderately well and do even a small amount of resistance training/cardio I usually lose 20 pounds in 6 weeks or so.

Then in the summer, the grill is always fired up and the beer is always flowing and I put it right back on.

OnTheWarpath15 12-31-2014 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11232822)
Had a Narwhal (non barrel aged) on tap earlier today.

Popping a 2nd Shift Katy that we grabbed at the brewery back in July.

Haven't had the Katy. AON is one of my Top 5 beers of all time.

KCUnited 12-31-2014 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11232843)
Haven't had the Katy. AON is one of my Top 5 beers of all time.

I have an AON downstairs as well. Haven't tried it yet. Katy is a great beer. I'll be in STL next weekend and plan to cruise through their brewery on my way back to KC and fill some growlers.

Bowser 12-31-2014 06:13 PM

Grabbed a Leinenkugel 12 sampler earlier. Will report back as I work through them.

TimBone 12-31-2014 06:47 PM

I got to try Boulevard BBQ for the first time a couple of weeks ago. Very good.

KC native 12-31-2014 06:52 PM

Going to pop open my 2013 Boulevard Imperial Stout after dinner.

Also finally found Prairie Bomb. Will probably have one of those.

The rest of my intake will be determined by how many whiskey shots I take (just bought TX Whiskey which is distilled here in Ft Worth).

TimBone 12-31-2014 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC native (Post 11232928)
Going to pop open my 2013 Boulevard Imperial Stout after dinner.

Also finally found Prairie Bomb. Will probably have one of those.

The rest of my intake will be determined by how many whiskey shots I take (just bought TX Whiskey which is distilled here in Ft Worth).

Where did you find bomb? They must have just recently made a shipment to Texas, because I've been looking for it for six months now. I finally found a few bottle in a Houston Whole Foods yesterday.

Saulbadguy 01-01-2015 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 11232867)
Grabbed a Leinenkugel 12 sampler earlier. Will report back as I work through them.

All garbage. IMO.

TimBone 01-01-2015 01:53 AM

So, I'm drinking Bomb! right now. It's better than the growler fill I had of Christmas Bomb! a few weeks ago, but I'm still not buying the hype. It's good, but I can name a number of stouts I'd take over it. Off the top of my head, Lagunitas Cappuccino Stout, Buffalo Bayou Gingerbread Stout, Southern Tier Warlock, and Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Smash.


EDIT: I'm gonna take back the above statement. I had both a pumpkin smash and a Lagunitas Cappuccino Stout in the fridge, so the wife and I did a side by side taste. I guess I was romanticizing the Lagunitas because it's bland next to the Bomb. Wife liked Bomb the best. I would still take pumpkin smash over bomb, but that might be my love for pumpkin flavors taking over.

We've also had one from Caldera Brewing in Oregon named Mogli that the wife said she prefers over everything we tried tonight.

KC native 01-01-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 11232962)
Where did you find bomb? They must have just recently made a shipment to Texas, because I've been looking for it for six months now. I finally found a few bottle in a Houston Whole Foods yesterday.

I found it at a Top Wine store in Fort Worth. My buddy said it is on tap at a restaurant/bar here as well.

In58men 01-01-2015 02:37 PM

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15...76574f0da2.jpg


Probably the best beer I've had in months. Definitely work a try if you can get it.

KC native 01-01-2015 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 11234424)
[IMG]http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/01/f123327b3931b7b324395b76574f0da2.

Probably the best beer I've had in months. Definitely work a try if you can get it.

Franziskaner is widely distributed. It's pretty easy to find. Good beer though.

Bearcat 01-01-2015 04:59 PM

Split the cost of a Sam Adams Utopias a couple years ago and opened it the other night... similar to a port, from what a buddy said. Enjoyed it, but just a one time purchase for that kind of money.

scho63 01-01-2015 05:32 PM

I had two of these 10.5% alcohol bombers on draft before lunch and I got a quick buzz! They were tasty. :D

Terrapin Wake ‘N Bake Coffee Oatmeal Stout

http://terrapinbeer.com/brew/monster...mperial-stout/

http://learn.kegerator.com/wp-conten...meal_stout.jpg

the Talking Can 02-26-2015 02:45 PM

tried a couple of smoked porters

Stone smoked porter:

nothing special, but solid and reasonable (imo) at $4 for a 22oz bottle
http://brewbound-images.s3.amazonaws...er-bottles.jpg

Jekyll Slow 'n' Low Smoke Porter:

on tap, dry, great mouth feel, more pronounced smoke than the stone, but maybe just fresher too

https://beermenus.s3.amazonaws.com/b...e-porter-1.jpg

Fish 02-26-2015 03:58 PM

I have a terrible confession. I tried this and it wasn't the worst thing in the world....

http://i57.tinypic.com/a2r7mt.jpg

phisherman 02-26-2015 04:28 PM

Those are all very tasty beers, Fish. The Organic Chocolate Stout is just silly good.

Marcellus 03-26-2015 08:47 PM

Had Boulevard's The Calling last night. Fantastic.

Fish 03-26-2015 08:57 PM

The Calling in incredible.

Also of note... Sierra Nevada Hop Hunter is the best beer they've put out in a long time...


http://i60.tinypic.com/vi1szn.png

OnTheWarpath15 03-26-2015 09:02 PM

Tried Freckle Belly IPA from Back Forty Brewing while in Alabama this week. Pretty damn good, even though it's not highly thought of on Beer Advocate or Ratebeer.

Marcellus 03-26-2015 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish (Post 11405624)
The Calling in incredible.

Also of note... Sierra Nevada Hop Hunter is the best beer they've put out in a long time...


http://i60.tinypic.com/vi1szn.png

We had that on tap recently at a local place and I missed it. Interesting they are using hop essence or whatever they claim it is.

KCUnited 03-26-2015 09:21 PM

Condo shopping in Chicago 2 weekends ago and looked at one that had a closet full of Zombie Dust. Ran into the owner on our second viewing and started talking. We offered on his place (under his asking price) along with a competing offer. He took our initial offer based on our interaction and we're currently under contract.

Beer drinkers rule.

Marcellus 03-26-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 11405676)
Condo shopping in Chicago 2 weekends ago and looked at one that had a closet full of Zombie Dust. Ran into the owner on our second viewing and started talking. We offered on his place (under his asking price) along with a competing offer. He took our initial offer based on our interaction and we're currently under contract.

Beer drinkers rule.

Was the beer included?

KCUnited 03-26-2015 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 11405681)
Was the beer included?

Ha, I thought about negotiating it, but 3 Floyds is all over up there. Plus, we just hashed out the property inspection results today and barring any Chiefs-like playoff collapse in the negotiations, I plan to stay in contact with the guy.

NewChief 05-05-2015 11:58 AM

Right up Reaper's alley:

http://www.pastemagazine.com/article...rican.html?p=2
Quote:

Blind-Tasting and Ranking 35 of the Best American Saisons
American saisons from funky to tart

By Jim Vorel
May 5, 2015 | 11:05am

22-LostAbbey-CarnevaleAle.jpg20. Lost Abbey Carnevale
City: San Marcos, CA
ABV: 6.5%
Key ingredient: Amarillo and Simcoe hops
The verdict: A saison that seems to represent the synthesis of multiple ideals, Carnevale is a couple things at once. On one hand, it has some of the biscuity, grainy malt of a classic Belgian saison, and a pinch of spice. It’s also very mildly tart, with a brett funk adding complexity. But there’s also plenty of reminder that we’re dealing with a West Coast brewery that knows how to handle its hops, which come through in the citrus presence of the amarillo in particular. You could call it a perfect example of a Californian saison.
15-21stAmendment-SneakAttack.jpg19. 21st Amendment Brewery Sneak Attack
City: San Francisco, CA
ABV: 6.2%
Key ingredient: Whole cardamom pods
The verdict: A beer that certainly announces its presence when you stick your nose in the glass, 21st Amendment’s offering may have been the spiciest overall saison on the table, with peppery, tingling aromatics that almost remind one of the heat of chiles. It’s also spicy on the palate with somewhat different, more herbal character—several tasters actually noted “ginger” in their tasting notes on this one. Regardless, it was one of the more assertive classic-style saisons in the ranking, although slightly one-dimensional.

6-UrbanChestnut-Apotheosis.jpg18. Urban Chestnut Apotheosis
City: St. Louis
ABV: 5.3%
Key ingredient: German malt and a French saison strain
The verdict: A well-balanced, classic French-style saison, Urban Chestnut’s saison features the thoughtful subtlety we’ve come to expect from their offerings. This is a very clean, archetypally sound saison, light-bodied but with a bit of nice doughiness from the wheat in the grain bill. It also has a pronounced lemony citrus note—not sure exactly where that one comes from, but the citrus pops just a little bit more than most of the saisons in the tasting. Light spiciness is also present in the finish.

31-Brooklyn-SorachiAce.jpg17. Brooklyn Brewery Sorachi Ace
City: Brooklyn, NY
ABV: 7.2%
Key ingredient: Sorachi Ace hops
The verdict: The Japanese-developed Sorachi Ace hop strain is known for distinct lemongrass and dill aromas, which were noted by some tasters in Brooklyn’s already-classic saison of the same name. However, in addition to the herbaceousness, the hops also contribute a sort of white wine fruitiness—think like a zesty pinot grigio character, which helped this beer stand out in a jam-packed lineup of crazy flavors. You might even mistake it as having spent some time in neutral oak, even though it hasn’t. That speaks to its complexity.

27-2ndShift-2.jpg16. 2nd Shift Brewing Mullineaux Batch #2
City: St. Louis, MO
ABV: 6%
Key ingredient: Farmhouse brettanomyces
The verdict: 2nd Shift, a brewery known for hoppy beer as much as wild ales, sent us two bottles of their Mullineaux farmhouse ale, with a twist—each batch was made with completely different yeast, and each resulting product turned out quite well. Batch #2 was the “farmhouse brett” version of Mullineaux, and it proved surprisingly different from the other bottle. Easily the more tart of the two, the mild sourness in this one particularly complemented its orange/lemon citrus characteristics as sourness often does, making them feel sweeter and juicier. Coupled with a peppery spice, it’s a fruity, flavorful saison that would be at home at the beer garden on a warm summer night.

20-Epic-UtahSageSaison.jpg15. Epic Brewing Co. Utah Sage Saison
City: Salt Lake City, UT
ABV: 7.5%
Key ingredient: Sage, thyme and rosemary
The verdict: This may be exactly the maximum amount of herbal flavor you can have in a beer while still remaining just on the right side of drinkability. Sage, as the name would suggest, is the biggest player in the aroma in particular, but thyme also contributes its savory quality and rosemary is there with a little bit of piney resin. It’s balanced on top of a solid, classic American take on a dry saison. In short, you’ll need to appreciate lots of herbal flavors to find this particular saison appealing, but if you’re say, the kind of person who keeps a garden, you may find it absolutely heavenly.

9-Allegash-Saison.jpg14. Allagash Brewing Co. Saison
City: Portland, ME
ABV: 6.1%
Key ingredient: A very traditional saison yeast strain
The verdict: One would probably expect a very traditional Belgian saison out of Allagash and boom, that’s pretty much what they deliver. To sample the score sheets: “very classic Belgian.” “Dry.” “For lovers of saison yeast.” As the tasters suggest, what you get here is classical and fairly restrained—quite dry, with a bit of lightly chewy malt, herbal hops and perfumey aromatics derived by both the hops and a collection of fruity esters. You could probably sneak it into a blind tasting lineup of saisons from Belgium and nobody would know it was the one American example on the table.

7-Firestone-Opal.jpg13. Firestone Walker Opal
City: Paso Robles, CA
ABV: 7.5%
Key ingredient: Hallertau Blanc hops
The verdict: Hugely different from a preceding beer such as the Allagash Saison, Firestone Walker’s offering is as American as it gets, with a cleaner yeast profile and much more focus on the hops. This is truly West Coast, dry-hopped saison, which makes for a pretty damn refreshing ale. The newer Hallertau Blanc variety is given a chance to shine here—as the name might suggest, it provides strong impressions of white wine-iness but also orange citrus—to quote one score sheet, “orangey and hoppy, almost like a pale ale.” From another, “nice balance of fruit and spice.” But there’s no mistaking where it came from.

18-2ndShift-3.jpg12. 2nd Shift Mullineaux Batch 3
City: St. Louis, MO
ABV: 6%
Key ingredient: Classic Belgian saison yeast
The verdict: The batch #3 variation of 2nd Shift’s Mullineaux is more of a classic saison than the tart, citric batch #2, and was actually one of the best-balanced examples of a classic saison on the table. There’s still just a bit of tartness here, which pairs beautifully with aromas of hay and spice. Light citrus is also present—more lemon zest than orange juice this time—and lingering flavors of spice and farmhouse funk.

35-CrookedStave-Surette.jpg11. Crooked Stave Surette Provision Saison
City: Denver, CO
ABV: 6.2%
Key ingredient: Oak aging
The verdict: The bigger of two Crooked Stave saisons in the tasting, Surette may have been one of the funkiest things on the table. Yeast signatures and esters are extremely pronounced and complex—everything from “citrus” and “green apple” on score sheets to my personal favorite description, “buttery cookie.” Tartness is moderate, definitely making its lactic tang felt, as are flavors of oak, before the back end shows off some unexpectedly assertive grainy flavors that remind you this is still a rustic farmhouse ale you’re drinking. A nearly perfect example of an assertive, oak-treated saison.

26-CreatureComfort-Dayspring.jpg10. Creature Comforts Dayspring
City: Athens, GA
ABV: 4.8%
Key ingredient: Wheat and brettanomyces
The verdict: This session strength saison is actually a grisette, a little-seen farmhouse ale substyle that seems to be moving into the vogue. We asked Creature Comforts if they would rather have us hold onto the lighter, lower-ABV beer to use for an upcoming tasting of low-gravity brews, but they were confident enough in their product to want it tasted right alongside barrel-aged saisons, and after tasting it, we could see why. There’s no shortage of funky flavors—enough that one taster’s notes say simply “so much brett,” next to a high score. Lightly tart, with herbal and biscuity qualities, this was one of a couple low-ABV beers to crack the top 10, proving that in this style, you don’t necessarily need a high ABV to make a strong impression.

17-WildHeaven.jpg9. Wild Heaven Craft Beers White Blackbird
City: Avondale Estates, GA
ABV: 6%
Key ingredient: Wine-marinated pears, pink peppercorn
The verdict: A touch darker than most of the other saisons, Wild Heaven’s White Blackbird comes in with a bit more richness and a combination of spice and fruity complexity. Both the marinated pears and pink peppercorn are very subtle flavor notes working in the background of what comes off as a fairly faithful, classic Belgian-style saison, imbuing it with a slight bit of tropical juiciness and exotic spice that you can’t quite put your finger on. Full disclosure: The owner of Wild Heaven was one of the tasters present for this blind tasting, and we disregarded his score for the sake of objectivity, even though he didn’t rate his own saison as the highest score on the table. This southern saison still managed to crack the top 10 anyway.

2-Epic-StraightUpSaison.jpg8. Epic Brewing Co. Straight Up Saison
City: Salt Lake City, UT
ABV: 7.3%
Key ingredient: Wheat malt, flaked oats
The verdict: If “clean” could be the operative word of any of these saisons, it would be this one—it manages to be both an “American” take on the style while also incorporating some of the aspects one sees in very rustic European saisons such as a blend of different grains. The oats lend just a little bit of silky texture, but it’s the well-balanced flavors that really stand out—slightly tart, citrusy and chased by peppery spice. Likely owing to the higher ABV, there’s even a little bit of rich, almost boozy sweetness, but it’s fleeting, and the beer still finishes dry as you would expect in a classic saison.

25-CrookedStave-Vielle.jpg7. Crooked Stave Vielle Artisanal Saison
City: Denver, CO
ABV: 4.2%
Key ingredient: Neutral oak aging
The verdict: The little brother of the earlier Surette saison from Denver’s Crooked Stave, Vielle actually made an even bigger impression despite being 4.2% ABV. This moderately tart farmhouse ale punches way above its weight class in terms of flavor, with an intriguing collection of barnyard funk notes and sour fruit flavors—think green apple and lemon in particular. The tangy, acidic mouthfeel is refreshing but also gives it a feeling of weight and substance that would make you think it was several percentage points higher in ABV. The oak doesn’t show up in terms of “woody” flavors as much as it enhances the depth and bite of the fruity impressions to make a dangerously drinkable ale that straddles a border between saison and something like “American wild ale.”

8-Tank7-FarmhouseAle.jpg6. Boulevard Brewing Co. Tank 7
City: Kansas City, MO
ABV: 8.5%
Key ingredient: Spicy esters
The verdict: If you want to point toward any mass-produced, widely available American farmhouse ale that helped the style really explode into popularity among the rank and file of American craft beer consumers, Boulevard’s Tank 7 would be an excellent example. It quickly became one of the company’s flagship offerings, cementing itself as a great example of an assertive, almost in-your-face American saison that doesn’t fool around with subtlety so much as it fires off a barrage of flavors. There are a lot of things going on here at once—citrusy American hops, some light funkiness, and then a big blast of peppery aromatics. Think like a tri-colored peppercorn grinder—very assertive spiciness and plenty of body make this a saison that would probably stand up very well to an equally big meal. Thanksgiving dinner, perhaps?

10-OmmeGang-Hennepin.jpg5. Brewery Ommegang Hennepin
City: Cooperstown, NY
ABV: 7.7%
Key ingredients: Grains of paradise, coriander, ginger
The verdict: Ommegang’s house yeast profile is so unique and identifiable that several tasters were able to call this one completely blind—it gives Hennepin a very assertive, phenolic, funk-forward nose. Certainly one of the most authentically Belgian-tasting on the table, Hennepin boasts strong and complex spice notes as well, owing to the addition of everything from grains of paradise to dried orange peel. In some sense, it’s almost a meeting point between classic saison and another beer from Ommegang in their “witte,” thanks to all of the spice additions. Regardless, this is a distinctly spicy, complex Belgian-style ale.

21-Prairie-PrairieSomwhere.jpg4. Prairie Artisan Ales Somewhere
City: Tulsa, OK
ABV: 7%
Key ingredients: Citrus fruit
The verdict: Lighter bodied than one would expect for 7% ABV, Prairie’s “Somewhere” is a moderately tart, refreshing, highly fruity blend of farmhouse ale and American sour. The aromatics are uniquely tropical, with a blast of melon and citrusy notes presumably imparted by the use of whole citrus fruit in the kettle. A detractor might accuse it of going a little one-note on tartness and fruit flavors, but we couldn’t deny how tasty this juicy sweet blend was. With more than a little residual sweetness, it manages to still be refreshing thanks to that solid backbone of sourness. Classic saison characteristics are tougher to pick up, with just a hint of spice and grain that can be perceived behind it all. Still, delicious stuff for lovers of fruity sours.

23-SideProject-SaisonDuFermier.jpg3. Side Project Brewing Saison Du Fermier
City: St. Louis, MO
ABV: 7%
Key ingredients: Chardonnay barrel aging
The verdict: When the box from St. Louis’ Side Project Brewing showed up, containing the #1 and #11 saisons in the world according to Beer Advocate, suffice to say we were excited to see where they would place in a blind ranking, and we were ultimately not disappointed. The bigger of the two, Saison Du Fermier, is an astoundingly complex ale aged for three to six months in chardonnay wine barrels, which give it pronounced fruity (white wine, lemon, apples), woody and spice notes on the back end. Tartness is strong and assertive, as are the flavors—this is a rich, heady take on saison that packs a depth of flavor we’ve rarely, if ever, seen before. Even among some of the other barrel-aged beers, its flavors surge ahead in comparison.

3-Prairie-PrairieAle.jpg2. Prairie Artisan Ales, “Prairie Ale”
City: Tulsa, OK
ABV: 8.2%
Key ingredient: Flaked wheat, Saaz hops and three different yeast strains
The verdict: Prairie’s classic saison is a thoughtful masterpiece, a synthesis of so many different aspects of the brewer’s art. This is a beer made with a three-pronged mixture of ale yeast, brettanomyces and wine yeast, and that complexity can’t help but shine through from the first moment you inhale. The aroma is like a force field of perfumey esters—pear, stone fruit and your entire cabinet of spices. It’s 8.2%, yet still impossibly light and drinkable, not in the least bit cloying. One taster rated it a perfect 100, which is to my knowledge the only time this has happened in any of our blind tastings. From another score sheet: “The center of the bullseye.”

1-SideProject-SaisonDuBle.jpg1. Side Project Brewing Saison Du Blé
City: St. Louis, MO
ABV: 6%
Key ingredient: Wheat and Chardonnay barrels
The verdict: When this blind tasting started, not a single judge in the room had ever sampled a beer from Side Project Brewing. A few of us had heard of the small, St. Louis nano-brewing project that operates out of the likewise respected Perennial Artisan Ales—the company is literally the “side gig” of Perennial head brewer Cory King. One could call it indicative of the increasing compartmentalization and specialization happening within craft brewing, where even guys with professional brewing jobs want to run separate companies with a laser tight focus on one facet of brewing—in this case, barrel-aged beer and sours. In that sense, Side Project is all about mastery of a chosen art form, and after tasting their two entries, we can’t dispute that their mastery is just about total.

Saison Du Blé is the smaller and slightly more traditional of the two farmhouse ales that Side Project submitted for the tasting, with a portion of wheat in the grist and a bit less sheer tartness than the Saison Du Fermier. There’s certainly no shortage of flavor, however, with a panoply of fruit notes that practically defy description—sour apple, grape juice, pineapple, grapefruit and more, all singing in concert. The tartness enhances fruit flavors but isn’t what one would call “sharp”—rather, it’s velvety smooth and supple, allowing you to get lost in the complexities of flavors.

If there’s anything that makes giving them the #1 spot slightly more difficult, it’s the fact that each batch of Saison Du Ble or Fermier is so individual and small, receiving constant tweaks, that if we ever get to sample it again, it may very well be a noticeably different beer. The flip side of this coin is that even if it is different, it will more than likely still be amazing—perhaps in an entirely new fashion. After tasting what we’ve tasted, we’re inclined to give Side Project the benefit of the doubt.


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