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pugsnotdrugs19 10-23-2019 09:15 AM

Well I’ll say this

Been watching some A22 the past couple days and Jones just dominates guards all day long, especially as a pass rusher. I’d like to see him be apart of a much improved run defense moving forward but his impact has probably been downplayed by many this year, including myself.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-23-2019 09:23 AM

Jones is a phenomenal pass rusher but his run defense is a liability. If he learns to maintain his gaps and literally just be a cog in a gap then it allows the linebackers to come down and make plays. Before Jones was getting out of position and it allowed running backs to run free at will

O.city 10-23-2019 09:25 AM

It may end up being a blessing that they don’t end up trading picks for anyone I guess

But I think no matter what you do, there’s gonna be Holes on the roster. No team doesn’t have them

TRR 10-23-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14546598)
Well I’ll say this

Been watching some A22 the past couple days and Jones just dominates guards all day long, especially as a pass rusher. I’d like to see him be apart of a much improved run defense moving forward but his impact has probably been downplayed by many this year, including myself.

He’s a game wrecker in the pass game. Mediocre in the run game at best. He’s our DL version of Marcus Peters (sans the bad attitude). He can win you a game with the way he plays, but also freelances way too much, particularly in the run game. It’s what makes him great though!

Side comment...Rodgers probably will rip KC’s D a new one. But there isn’t much out there to acquire that’s going to change the course of this season. Health of our current players is the #1 goal. KC has enough, when close to full strength, to beat anyone home or away.

UChieffyBugger 10-23-2019 09:28 AM

Can Jones move to DE? if he can then I ain't got any problems with keeping him. I just need to see him step up where stopping the run is concerned, That's all.

chiefforlife 10-23-2019 09:32 AM

I am starting to believe that we play with the team we have.

Not because Veach didnt try but because for whatever reason, teams asking to much or not wanting to help the Chiefs get even better.

Not much left out there that is "on the market" anyway.

Watching the Jets the other night, the one bright spot they had was Leonard Williams. That dude was playing. Not sure why but he has been mentioned as trade bait. I believe I even heard a third rounder could get it done.
Now thats something to consider. Unfortunately thats about all I can see that would help our team and not cost us next years draft.

ToxSocks 10-23-2019 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14546611)
Jones is a phenomenal pass rusher but his run defense is a liability. If he learns to maintain his gaps and literally just be a cog in a gap then it allows the linebackers to come down and make plays. Before Jones was getting out of position and it allowed running backs to run free at will

God i can't wait for this narrative to die. This shit is so overblown.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 10-23-2019 10:03 AM

More people think we get PP

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL trade deadline is 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday, Oct. 29. What kind of action could occur before the deal-making clock runs out? <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSessler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarcSessler</a> proposes one buy/sell move for each AFC team.<a href="https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S">https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S</a> <a href="https://t.co/NpgWrXgi4m">pic.twitter.com/NpgWrXgi4m</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1187026391373451265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Marcellus 10-23-2019 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14546004)
Minkah would have helped

Trading a 1st round pick for a safety for this team would have been epically stupid. We don't need another safety.

Perfect example of someone wanting to do something just to say they did.

The Franchise 10-23-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14546688)
More people think we get PP

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL trade deadline is 4 p.m. ET on Tuesday, Oct. 29. What kind of action could occur before the deal-making clock runs out? <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSessler?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MarcSessler</a> proposes one buy/sell move for each AFC team.<a href="https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S">https://t.co/kpRRTVrS4S</a> <a href="https://t.co/NpgWrXgi4m">pic.twitter.com/NpgWrXgi4m</a></p>&mdash; Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1187026391373451265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For a 2020 1st round pick and a 2021 2nd round pick. No thanks.

The Franchise 10-23-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14546723)
Trading a 1st round pick for a safety for this team would have been epically stupid. We don't need another safety.

Perfect example of someone wanting to do something just to say they did.

He would have played CB here.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-23-2019 10:22 AM

Idk I kinda wanna become the team that’s trading their way into 10+ picks every year now. Which would probably be smart given what Mahomes’ contract is fixing to look like.

Marcellus 10-23-2019 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14546739)
He would have played CB here.

I know he plays "some" corner but you don't give a 1st round pick for a guy who plays "some" corner.

Perfect example, he is playing safety in Pitt and they have some bad corners.

Sure-Oz 10-23-2019 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14546738)
For a 2020 1st round pick and a 2021 2nd round pick. No thanks.

Trade a 2nd for Slay if he is available.

UChieffyBugger 10-23-2019 10:50 AM

As far as I'm concerned the situation is pretty simple. IF Veach can add a few defensive pieces to this team then we have a real shot of going to the SB. IF he can't, then we're left praying that what we saw against the Texans and Colts has been addressed by Spags schemes and some changes in personnel...let's see what Brett does. Because if we end up losing in the playoffs to the Ravens or Pats via ball control tactics then someone has to take the blame for that.


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