Its kind of funny because all around in all athletcs together Iowa State is one of the top schools in the nation. But they aren't really great at anything outside wrestling, and football is the main thing driving the new conferences.. so they are pretty much dicked unless some of the conferences realize Iowa State is on the rise... or if they want to add a lower school or two just to keep a balance.

FWIW, the board I run has a 3.5k post thread that has some great information. Much better than this thread. A couple of the guys have gotten Orangebloods premium subscriptions to follow this.

http://goemaw.com/forum/index.php?topic=3457.0

Saul i'm going to join your board.

What is emaw?

If Mizzou got on it's knees, that just sucks. What a crock of shit. If you are gonna start something... finish it.

It's like leaving your wife for this hot chick... but then finding out the hot chick doesn't want you... now you have to kiss your wife's ass to come back home.

WTF

Every Man a Wildcat

Who gives a shit? :D

I like the idea of ISU, Mizzou, Kansas, and Kansas State joining the Big East the most.

East-
Pitt
West Virginia
UCONN
South Florida
Syracuse
Rutgers

West-
Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Missouri
Louisville
Cincinnati

And still being in an Auto BCS league.

Acronym for Every Man A Wildcat

Corny? Yes. And I was born in Manhattan...

There is NOBODY in the Big 10 on the level of Texas or Oklahoma. Had we went there, we instantly get those monkeys off our backs, become more competitive, get more money, more national recognition, and have a much better shot at winning. And winning establishes that "brand" thing that you don't seem to understand, either. Allow me to explain.

"Brand" comes from winning in something, at some point, for a long time. Brand sticks in the minds of the masses. You keep Brand forever, whether you continue to win or not (see Michigan, Notre Dame). Brand is 100 million Joe Nobodies who instantly associate Nebraska with winning football and turn on the TV. Brand is 100 million Joe Nobodies who instantly associate Kansas with winning basketball and turn on the TV. The key word is "winning." Brand tells people who don't know any better (and when it comes to Kansas and Nebraska, that's pretty much everybody) "Hey, I've heard of them! They're good! They win! I want to watch them." Brand is a trump card. Brand allowed a nothing school from a nothing state that hasn't been a player on a national stage for over a decade to blow us out of the water and snake our Big 10 invite. Brand allowed Kansas to snake our Orange Bowl bid two weeks after we beat them on the field.

Missouri's Brand is shit right now. Our Brand is complainer, troublemaker, and worst of all, chump. You can crawl in bed with Alden and put on your pom-poms and talk about playing with Texas and Oklahoma with honor and being legit, but that won't save us. We need a fresh start in a competitive conference and competent management, or things will never improve for us.

Exactly.

don't you want to actually join a stronger conference? That west division sucks teh ass.

Ohio State?

On the level of Texas or Oklahoma? No.

Thats my first option after keeping the Big12 in tact. And thats only if we can add someone like Utah, Cincinatie, Notre Dame, or someone along those lines... but that doesn't seem as realistic.