well now that's just bullshit.

everyone one in the goddamn world has known for the last 40 years that Mizzou had an interest in joining the B10. that's never been a secret. simply stating that "if we were approached we would listen" doesn't mean a damn thing.

if what Harvey Perlman said is true, Mizzou leaving for the B10 would have done nothing to the B12. Nothing. So saying that Mizzou even talking about leaving caused anything to happen is simply not true.

Nebraska was looking for a reason to jump, and Texas provided that reason. So if you want to blame Mizzou, go ahead. No one here cares any more.

OU and OSU will follow Texas. If Texas stays, so do the Oklahoma schools.

A&M is not going to stay in the Big 12 without Texas. Why would they?

I live in Denver and Air Force does not have a huge following here. Their following is in Colorado Springs.

I'm sorry, but, that conference is garbage. If the Texas five leave, that leaves only five teams, which is not enough to keep their BCS bid. Joining the MWC will be their only option. Again, there is no Big 12 without Texas. Texas leaves, this conference is extinct.

Yawn. So the Cyclones might be competitive this year?

They're still not a BCS school. They don't have a tv market.

KU to the PAC-10, Keitzman was right

that's really too bad. aTm was a decent academic institution and will instantly be the best research institution in the SEC, but that's like being the prettiest girl at fat camp.

so now we're gonna be fighting the SEC for TX recruits. super.

KU and KSU should just merge. They'd be unbeatable round these parts.

competative this year? there were only two games last year they werent. they would have won every other one if they were all on the same page and didnt beat themselves. and the tv market isnt what makes you a bcs team.
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As do I (Denver-Chief)...maybe it's my military friends...seems like I know lots of chAir Force followers here

;)

As in Buckley AFB Denver, CO

One of my best friends is a major in the Air Force, and he doesn't even give a shit about Air Force - Army all the way.

And that works out great for me, since every year he insists on making a bet with me on the Army/Navy game. It's like an annuity at this point. :D

:LOL: I wish I could say the Army fielded good teams....they ALWAYS lose to Navy

That's what's sad about all this.

Who has a better athletic history? Iowa State or Rutgers?

Iowa State or Mississppi St?

Iowa State or Baylor?

The Cyclones have an athletic tradition worth keeping. Unfortunately the dollar is running all of this and at this point what can you do?

Losing to Navy is a lot easier than it used to be. They've got a hell of a team.

Army, not so much. :D

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093803

Three different sources at Big 12 South schools being targeted by the Pac-10 told Orangebloods.com Sunday morning that Dan Beebe's attempts to secure a new TV deal on par with the SEC's $17 million/school payout for the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 is in play.

The sources said they are proceeding cautiously with the new information provided by Beebe.

But the information might slow down the rocket-like pace of Big 12 schools seeking a new home and possibly draw all the divided parties back to the table.

Here's what Beebe has provided to the five Big 12 South schools who have been targeted by the Pac-10, including Texas A&M, who has been in deep conversation about joining the SEC, according to sources.

--Beebe has secured information that enough money could be inked in its next TV negotiation (in 2011) that revenues per school would jump from between $7 million and $10 million in the Big 12 currently to $17 million, which is what the SEC pays out.


--Individal institutions would be allowed to pursue their own networks, which has been a goal of Texas. If the Longhorns went to the Pac-10, they would have to forgo their own distribution platforms, including a network, because the Pac-16 would seek to have a conference network in which all inventory is shared.

(Consultants have put Texas' ability to generate revenue from its own network at between $3 million and $5 million after a start-up window of about three years.)


--The Big 12 would proceed with 10 teams. Everyone would play everyone in football, providing a nine-game conference schedule. And the option to save or dump the conference championship game would be determined by the institutions.


--The loss of Nebraska and Colorado should have been a loss of about 16 percent to the league's revenue generating capacity. But because Colorado was an underperformer, the league lost only about 8.6 percent of its value with the loss of Nebraska, according to sources with knowledge of the Beebe Plan.

Hold on folks. This is about to get interesting. The key in all of this is that Texas appears to be at least reconsidering its position on going to the Pac-10 and will listen to the Beebe proposal and to the idea of remaining in the Big 12.

Nothing is done. It is fluid. But the Beebe Plan to hold the Big 12 together is definitely in play right now.

As Orangebloods.com was told by a top source in the day's developments: "The winds to keep the Big 12 together with 10 teams are getting stronger."

The plot only figures to thicken as Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott and Pac-10 chief operating officer Kevin Weiberg spoke to officials from Oklahoma and Oklahoma State in Oklahoma City Saturday and are in College Station today to speak with Texas A&M officials, according to sources.

Texas had been resolute up to this point that if Nebraska left the conference, it would accept an invitation to join the Pac-10 and lead an exodus that appeared to include Oklahoma, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State.

Texas A&M has been in deep discussions with the SEC and as of Saturday night had enough votes on its Board of Regents to join the SEC (believed to be 6-3). But the dissenting votes on A&M's regents board are apparently passionate about keeping Texas and A&M together and not breaking up a 100-year rivalry by having the schools head to different leagues.

SEC commissioner Mike Slive was in College Station Saturday. Sources close to the situation say A&M has an invitation to the SEC if it wants it. The SEC has also been doggedly pursuing Oklahoma.

But thus far, OU, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State have indicated they would stay with Texas. Up to this point, that appeared to be an announcement to join the Pac-10, starting as early as Tuesday of this week.

But with news that Texas is now seriously considering the Beebe Plan, there is a growing chance the Big 12, which is now at 10 schools (the Big Ten, by the way, is now at 12 schools) just might survive after all.

Stay tuned.