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Sassy Squatch 08-06-2024 06:17 PM

Overall? Bron Breakker.

GloucesterChief 08-06-2024 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17618935)
Overall? Bron Breakker.

Breakker and Ilja are certainly the future right now.

New World Order 08-06-2024 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17618778)
Macho Man and Flair are great choices. Neither was muscled up in their primes, though Savage was in his later years. Despite that, their look was unique with their costumes and Ric's white mullet haircut. Both great on the mics and in the ring.

Austin isn't far off. His look was great with the shaved head, goatee, and black skull jackets. Arguably the best ever on the mic. Good in the ring before his injuries (maybe not a 10 though).

If the average chiefs fan lifted weights, they would look like stone cold

loochy 08-07-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17619021)
If the average chiefs fan lifted weights, they would look like stone cold Bastion Booger

FYP


https://www.wrestlecrap.com/app/uplo.../09/bbc-02.jpg

Jerm 08-07-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 17618926)
Great discourse, guys.

Who do you think, on an active roster of any promotion, has the potential to be remembered as a "10"?

Gunther/WALTER...I mean he's already there for me but he's got so much more he can add on to his career.

otherstar 08-07-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17618695)
Yep. Kurt Angle is the quintessential pro wrestler. Could play every role to near perfection, face or heel, comedy or serious, and to top it all off has actual legitimacy as one of the greatest amateurs of all time.

Indeed, Kurt would give Brock Lesnar a run for his money (if he didn't outright beat him) in a regular wrestling match (NCAA or Olympic rules match).

otherstar 08-07-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17618707)
The only problem with Macho Man is that his persona was the same inside and out of the ring.

Even when you are a heel you have to have time to "turn it off" or you burn yourself out mentally. I think that happened to Mach Man.

I think that happened to quite a few guys back in the day....because of kayfabe the wound up living their gimmick (Flair is another case in point).

Mosbonian 08-07-2024 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17619748)
Gunther/WALTER...I mean he's already there for me but he's got so much more he can add on to his career.

If Gunther had better skills on the mic then I might agree with you....

The problem with many of today's WWE stars is that they are horrible on the mic.....very few have the charisma to carry and opening segment like Cena, Austin, Shawn Michael's.

The closest to really working the crowd into a frenzy are guys like Seth Rollins.

Gunther needs someone to help him learn to be better on the mic.

Chitownchiefsfan 08-07-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17619862)
If Gunther had better skills on the mic then I might agree with you....

The problem with many of today's WWE stars is that they are horrible on the mic.....very few have the charisma to carry and opening segment like Cena, Austin, Shawn Michael's.

The closest to really working the crowd into a frenzy are guys like Seth Rollins.

Gunther needs someone to help him learn to be better on the mic.

I think this is due to decades of McMahon micro managing what wrestlers said. It's gotten better since HHH took over and should only get better as time goes on.

Gary Cooper 08-07-2024 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17619862)
If Gunther had better skills on the mic then I might agree with you....

The problem with many of today's WWE stars is that they are horrible on the mic.....very few have the charisma to carry and opening segment like Cena, Austin, Shawn Michael's.

The closest to really working the crowd into a frenzy are guys like Seth Rollins.

Gunther needs someone to help him learn to be better on the mic.

I heard that's because more promos are scripted than before. There's less trust placed by the company in today's stars to improvise on their promos. Not sure if that's true.

Jerm 08-07-2024 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 17619862)
If Gunther had better skills on the mic then I might agree with you....

The problem with many of today's WWE stars is that they are horrible on the mic.....very few have the charisma to carry and opening segment like Cena, Austin, Shawn Michael's.

The closest to really working the crowd into a frenzy are guys like Seth Rollins.

Gunther needs someone to help him learn to be better on the mic.

Yeah it's not a bad point...I think he's improved big time in that regard though and will continue to get better.

It would be cool to see him as this stoic just badass heel with a mouthpiece like a Heyman or someone like that though.

New World Order 08-07-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17619735)

Bastion Booger should have been heavyweight champ

Sassy Squatch 08-07-2024 12:26 PM

Oof, hard disagree on Rollins having mic skills. He floundered for literal years trying to find a compelling character and eventually settled on completely superficial crap like dressing like a Prince cosplayer and having a song that's fun to sing along to for the crowds.

He's constantly playing second, third, or even fourth fiddle in his feuds nowadays.

New World Order 08-07-2024 12:30 PM

Let’s just talk about the greatest years in wrestling, specifically 1997-1999

loochy 08-07-2024 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17620028)
Let’s just talk about the greatest years in wrestling, specifically 1997-1999


undertaker
stone cold (pre-injury WWF version)
hbk
angle



maaaybe HHH and rock


later on, Eddie was getting REALLY good


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