Yup!

ROFL

Yeah same as it ever was really

Yeah. Because for the first time in 15 years we actually have an offense and QB that I believe we can win a Superbowl with, and it's all weighed down by the travesty that is our defense. Maybe I'm the only one but that infuriates me more than anything during the Peterson and Pioli eras.

Defense looked shitty the whole game, not just in garbage time.

Dude take a break or something

My biggest gripe with Sutton was how he overused and ruining Poe to the point he had to have back surgery after OTA participation and wasn't ever the same after.

Defense overall wasnt good but when you look into it a little more there certainly are improvements. I'm still holding out hope something gets done with Breeland and Berry comes back. Ford was great today we definitely missed him last year. Idk what's up with Houston.

What was he going to do? Outside of Poe, there wasn't a single body on the line that was worth anything.

Hey, I don't like the way the defense is playing. I also recognize that firing the coordinator isn't going to turn this bunch of scrubs into a respectable defense. Their two highest-paid "stars" are non-existent. In fact, I think Berry had a bigger impact on the game than Houston did.

Maybe it’s just me but it never seems like we sack rivers very often

As much as I hate him he’s so good at getting rid of it and such

People have short memories.

The 2002 and 2012 defenses were WAY worse.

I've never seen such awful corner play as we had in 2002 and GROB couldn't coordinate his way out of a wet paper bag.

For the most part Sutton's defenses have always given up yards but won the game by preventing TDs and getting turnovers.

That's not good enough in the postseason when your QB is Alex Smith but it's damn sure going to be good enough if your offense is in league with the 98 Vikings or 99 Rams.

This offense is going to be so good. They only scratched the surface today and put up 31 points like it was an accident.

I genuinely think this offense could have a 60-point game this year.

Agree to disagree.

It was actually both offenses. But the point still stands. And as one of the very few people who was actually objective about Alex Smith (hard on him when it was warranted, defending him likewise), all the offense needed to do in those two games was get a field goal and he couldn’t pull that off.

However, even with that being the case, it still is no excuse for the utter and complete defensive collapses. That falls on Sutton the same as the ‘03 _fense falls on GRob.

The issue I have is his ability to adjust. There was three sequences that the Chargers ran where they dumped it off to the RB in consecutive order. Two times in a row is a pattern, and the third time it happened, I was like "What is he doing?"

I think they got caught blitzing too much.

Jones should have had 4 sacks today. He was a monster in there

I think the numbers are throwing everyone a bit yardage wise. They literally gave them 130 yards in the mof in the 4th quarter to keep the clock running

He needs to learn to stop lining up in the neutral zone, though.

Ain’t that the ****ing truth

The most oddly amusing part about all this is the fact that Uncle Bob has been holding this defense together with duct tape and spittle for over 2 years.

Our defensive personnel department has been the Ellis Island of the NFL. "Give me your old, your broken down, your unwanted DBs, your huddled masses of non-tacklers yearning for a paycheck."

FAX

Dude. You’re insufferable.

Eric fisher appeared to play well.

Sutton should know to manage players snap count so their bodies won't breakdown in a season .

94% on the field in a season for someone who's 346 pounds was ill advised and Dontari's body broke down. because of it. This displays how short sighted Sutton is.

The entire OL seemed to be pretty good today. Mahomes kind of ****ed them once by scrambling way too early.

Your thread was a winner fax. You deserve a gatorade bath!

This was a classic Andy Reid game. He had all offseason to create a system for Mahomes and they came out of the gate on fire. A lot like 2017 opening day. But, then you see the chinks in the armor. You have the sketchy clock management at the end of the half, bewildering play calling at the goal line in the second half and the inability to effectively run the clock. The same little things that end up killing KC in the post season.

Not sure we can whine too much about Red Zone play calling.

Running Mahomes and risking an injury to him in that situation was stupid.

The whole O-Line have appeared to play well, yes, even Wylie or Erving. I'd like them to be a little more physical on the run game, but overall, their game was good.

Please stop running Mahomes.

Minus giving up a sack.

I'm so glad you are back Fax. When I saw it was you who started the gdt I knew we would win and it would be pretty amazing. Mahomes is a once in every 20 years or talent at QB. I dig the Favre comparisons, but Mahomes has some really unique traits with the way he handles the ball before he throws it. His play action/deception on the wr shovel passes, (which may be a rpo that's called in the snap cadence or something like that.) his feel for the timing and control of the snap. He just owns that ball the second it hits his hands, he's going to put it on target or get rid of it before you know wtf happened.

:arrow:Who gives a rats A**? CHIEFS WON ON THE ROAD!!:arrow:

This team will resemble the Don Coryell Chargers. All offense, and very little defense

Hill is a freak!!! When was the last time a WR was in the MVP race?

Yes he is. He's a created video game character. Um, Antonio Brown the last few years.

Did Breeland Speaks even play?

I saw him waddling off the field...and then on the next play he waddled too slowly and we got that penalty. ROFL

Dude is just a ****ing lump man.

Veach isn't the best GM.

Exactly

He's Rich Gannon with a howitzer.

Rich Cannon

Just watched the first few series on defense and I think I'm safe in saying that Houston wasn't the same ol' Fiddy today.

He was doubled a couple of times early, then he was single-blocked pretty easily (although a couple of those plays were away from him). What bothers me is that he seemed to give up on plays early ... real early for him. Engaged the blocker, then just stood there while the play went around him. Very unusual behavior.

Was he pacing himself? Does he have the flu? Does Kelce?

There was something very strange about this game.

The All-22 still isn't up, but it will be worth examining, I'm sure.

FAX

Our pass rush was legit today.

Hopefully we can get that kind of pressure on The Berger.

I was at the game and noticed a complete lack of pressure even when he wasn’t doubled and wasn’t dropping back. He had nothing pressure-wise.

Mother****ing this. We don’t need a Luck situation.

His ball control really surprised me. Other than that goal line run he played a really sharp clean game. I couldn’t believe it.

As much as the haters heads may explode, Alex probably deserves some credit there. If for no other reason than he showed it could be effective. Mahomes wasn’t doing that at Tech.

Also I think Kelce doesn’t get far enough down field for Mahones.

It was really amazing to see a guy go further downfield with his progressions. Only time it hurt us was when he didn’t just tuck and run and get an easy 3 at the end of the first half instead of trying to jam it into the end zone but what a great problem to now have.

I'm not really one to cry about lopsided calls because I think overall the refs suck equally for most teams but man did they miss a number of holding calls against our pass rush today. Kpass a few times and obviously Jones.

Sutton tore him a new asshole after that penalty.

I haven't re-watched the play yet, but ...

On the second jet TD (the one to #10), it appeared to me that, as Hunt was going right and Hill was jetting left, Mahomes pitched the ball to Hill in FRONT of Hunt. It almost seemed like Mahomes handed the ball to Hunt who then just passed it along to Hill.

Did you guys see that?

In other words, how could a defense possibly know where the ball was since it passed in FRONT of Hunt going the opposite direction.

I don't think I've ever seen that (or I saw it wrong).

FAX THE ONLY HALF BLIND AT TIMES

Fax you're starting the game thread next week.

I was shocked by this.

You guys have to see this ... I think it might have been a half-busted play, actually.

It occurred at 9:47 in the 4th (jet right to Hill).

If I knew how to post a cut-down, I would. Maybe we were just lucky today, but that was a weird play design. I hope that Mr. GoChiefs or someone can post it.

FAX

damn marc boerigter has packed on the pounds

https://i.imgur.com/sjiTBwr.jpg

It was really hot for a pro football game and our defense was getting roasted like a cheap hot dog left on the roller thing for too long at the 7-11.

Our defense was out on the field a long time, everyone along both sides of the los were giving their all. The ol and dl for both teams played really hard, Gordon, Allen, Rivers all balled out. The chargers don't suck on either side of the ball, they're a really good team. Mahomes and Hill beat them today.

Honestly, they probably told houston to take it easy b\c of the heat if we got any kind of lead/want to save him. There's less risk, and hopefully his production has more significance if he maximizes his effort later in the season. He's a 10-15 sack guy at this point in his career unless there are some significant ot injuries to his divisional opponents.

Yeah, calling bs on that. Houston will be lucky to reach 7-8 sacks this year.

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Looks like he could beat out Fisher for the starting LT gig.

Seems it's designed that way. Damn risky play requiring absolute precision.

I think that’s the play mentioned in the article posted a bit ago.

#me too

I have both in both my leagues.

For my money league, I started PM over Kirk Cousins.

Who else would rather see Tremon Smith take his lumps as a rookie than see Scandrick getting toasted every play?

[QUOTE=OKchiefs;13721257]Yeah, calling bs on that. Houston will be lucky to reach 7-8 sacks this year.

10-15 is the best case scenario, your projection is realistic.Just sayin, with the lead, they told him to chill if he didn't do it himself. His knees are probably done though, full of unwanted fluids, but his heart is pure and pounds with every snap. He's a big tough football player.

He's gonna get his 10, maybe more - if only because the other team will often be playing from behind.

Look, Houston's stats were 1 assist. 1 assist.

Now you can't judge a defender's performance entirely from stats, but if you're a factor in the game you will put up SOMETHING.

KC's defense can't be good if Houston plays like a JAG.

complete replay of game available here:

http://mygoodstream.pw/football/nflr...Yz0=&gs=3&gt=2

I just saw that article and I think you're right, Mr. Bob Dole.

After re-watching those two scores, they were identical plays. One to DAT and the other to #10. The one to Hill was more precise and much faster and cleaner, though ... at least the way I saw it.

I'm sure that, like me, you've seen some fabulous backfield ball-handling. But when they pulled that thing off, I was literally staring agape at the tv. The amount of choreography and timing involved was spectacular.

I've seen a lot of fakes, but I don't recall ever seeing that before.

FAX

andy is using all the college tricks in the books :D

we cannot forget tho, last year. all the success they had, UNTIL defenses figured them out... but...

andy sure is having fun with his new toy :thumb:

ETA: it just dawned on me. those quick 'pitch' td's pat 'threw'. i would be curious if andy does that specifically to 'pat' his qb's stats. tyreek and dat are receivers. if it's a handoff, our savior doesn't get credit....

is andy a stat whore for pat?

I think everybody was dragging ass on defense because it was maybe 80 degrees max and no sun at all during practice this week, fires might have had a residual impact on air quality. It was pretty brutal conditions for defense in general. The chargers we're gassed as well on d. Are we thin on defense? Yes. Is Houston done, or close to it? Maybe, but I don't think it matters how we or he plays on defense these next few weeks. That chargers offense/rb is pretty good, we won't see anything like that for a minute with the exception of bell next week if he plays. I like our chances when the weather cools down.

the lack of sacks and pressures is purely due to rivers ability to get the ball out fast. obviously we miss berry, but even without, i would say playing the steelers, you will see more pocket pressure.

i hate to say it, but there is a lot to learn from the browns this week. :thumb:

As much as Houston is paid I think he can play hard even when it's hot outside.

I thought Jones and Ford brought good pressure.

Houston needs to step it up

i just rewatched the reek td shuffle pass.... did not realize pat shuffled the ball IN FRONT OF HUNT, only for hill to snag it...

THAT IS ****ING BRILLIANT!!! :D

not gonna veer: he's my 'sideshow mahomes'

https://www.dictionary.com/e/wp-cont...deshow-bob.jpg

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2 TD’s and 254 yards

Chargers got some major garbage time stat padding yesterday. This game was over at 31-12 at the end of the 3rd. Chargers got all of those stats when the game was out of reach LMAO

Sorry dude, but with Bob Sutton and the Prevent... do you really think the game is out of reach?

Do you need some choke job reminders?

Until Sutton is gone, prepare your butthole.

I wish this team could just score like a normal team inside the 3. FFS pound the rock, give your lineman a chance to build some pride and attitude.

Andy has a concrete hard-on for trick plays in those situations. It’s cute at times, but frustrates the hell out of me.

Meh. Doing it now will open the middle up.

The game was out of reach dude. The Chargers were losing by double digits the entire 2nd half.

The Colts were down by 28 at halftime.

People talk about those missed catches that the receivers had for the Chargers but whose fault is that? That’s a big sign that Rivers recievers are not on the same page. Our guys made the big catches and theirs didn’t. The better team won.