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duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10515641)
What are your early expectations for our record? I was asked by a friend this morning and I suggested 80-82. I think we won't go 15-4 vs Minny or whatever it was since their rotation looks much improved. That should shave off 5-6 wins from last year if we split with them. I'd guess most of the other records vs opponents will stay about the same. We were pretty injury-free last season and losing Santana will hurt, as will Hoch.

I still think 89-90 wins.

They will be just fine without low-leverage Luke.

SPATCH 03-25-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10515641)
What are your early expectations for our record? I was asked by a friend this morning and I suggested 80-82. I think we won't go 15-4 vs Minny or whatever it was since their rotation looks much improved. That should shave off 5-6 wins from last year if we split with them. I'd guess most of the other records vs opponents will stay about the same. We were pretty injury-free last season and losing Santana will hurt, as will Hoch.

Hmmm I would be surprised as hell if our overall offensive production doesn't improve by quite a bit this year.

Pitching should be roughly the same. Ventura has a decent shot to match Santana's production.

80-82 wins would be very disappointing.

Three7s 03-25-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10516060)
I still think 89-90 wins.

They will be just fine without low-leverage Luke.

You think that's enough for a playoff spot or the division?

duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10516169)
You think that's enough for a playoff spot or the division?

It will be in the running, I believe.

Think the ceiling is a few wins higher than that. If everything goes right (Hosmer hits all year, Butler and Gordon return to form, Moose breaks through, every other hitter performs to average, Cain is healthy, Ventura is healthy and pitches like a RotY, team is healthy), the ceiling is actually pretty high.

RockChalk 03-25-2014 04:02 PM

Olney and Crastnick were talking about it on their podcast today. 92 wins was their expectation for us.

Discuss Thrower 03-25-2014 04:23 PM

And what if they actually win the division... Can they hang with any team in teh AL?

SPATCH 03-25-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 10516353)
Olney and Crastnick were talking about it on their podcast today. 92 wins was their expectation for us.

Nvm. 82 wins it is...

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-25-2014 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10516240)
It will be in the running, I believe.

Think the ceiling is a few wins higher than that. If everything goes right (Hosmer hits all year, Butler and Gordon return to form, Moose breaks through, every other hitter performs to average, Cain is healthy, Ventura is healthy and pitches like a RotY, team is healthy), the ceiling is actually pretty high.

"I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbet"

...Sorry, too many years as a Royals fan.

BlackHelicopters 03-25-2014 04:47 PM

Coming up on the 29th season...

alnorth 03-25-2014 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10516417)
And what if they actually win the division... Can they hang with any team in teh AL?

When you get into 5-game and 7-game series, you really only need to have 2 great pitchers to be roughly even with anyone. If we win the division, we probably will have found someone who could pitch beside Shields.

We'd be heavy underdogs against a terrific-looking team like the Dodgers, but I'd give us at least a 35-40% chance in 7 games against them.

tk13 03-25-2014 05:37 PM

If Moose hits and Ventura delivers, we'll be good. Especially Ventura. Lot of pressure to put on a kid, but we have to develop a starting pitcher. We could have 9 Wil Myers in the lineup and it wouldn't matter.

Prison Bitch 03-25-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10516060)
I still think 89-90 wins.

They will be just fine without low-leverage Luke.

You obviously missed the exploits last year of Aaron "Negative WAR" Crow, Tiny Tim Collins walking every third batter and Kelvin "Chicks dig the long ball" Herrerra.


I do like the last one to at least step up this year.

Prison Bitch 03-25-2014 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 10516353)
Olney and Crastnick were talking about it on their podcast today. 92 wins was their expectation for us.

They should be committed to an asylum immediately, before they hurt someone or themselves.

BeMyValentine 03-25-2014 06:39 PM

The last time we ended above .500 we then had three straight seasons of 100 loss baseball.

It was the 1980's the last time we had back to back winning seasons.

Deberg_1990 03-25-2014 06:39 PM

I read a Star article a few weeks back where Butler was getting some work in at 1st base. I guess they want more lineup flexibility this year?

GloryDayz 03-25-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10516825)
I read a Star article a few weeks back where Butler was getting some work in at 1st base. I guess they want more lineup flexibility this year?

I'd just be happy if they keep tabs on his weight this year. Not publicly, in the clubhouse, and make sure he stays fit and trim...

If they do that, it'll help him a LOT.

As for first base, he's not the best but if he stays in shape he could work in on occasion.

Discuss Thrower 03-25-2014 07:09 PM

Giavotella optioned to Omaha.


Wellbye.jpeg

alnorth 03-25-2014 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10516825)
I read a Star article a few weeks back where Butler was getting some work in at 1st base. I guess they want more lineup flexibility this year?

Well that, and it would be nice if he had any trade value at all next off-season.

SPchief 03-25-2014 07:22 PM

Game's on FSKC if anyone wants to watch. Aoki leads off with a single

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10516909)
Game's on FSKC if anyone wants to watch. Aoki leads off with a single

Thanks man!

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 07:27 PM

OMG BELLY OUR TIME BABY!

SPchief 03-25-2014 07:29 PM

Alex just misses a 3 run HR

mr. tegu 03-25-2014 07:33 PM

Screw anyone who disagrees. I love Dyson!

alnorth 03-25-2014 07:34 PM

Interesting article on the star about Schuster, the Royals have pretty much no intention whatsoever of putting him on the active roster, the Royals are performing some MLB transaction voodoo.

Its all about Carlos Peguero, his performance this spring has been great, but he has no options, zero chance of making the team, and the Royals want to keep him. He could be outrighted to Omaha, but he'd have to clear waivers first, and the Royals are afraid that if he was on waivers now, then someone might grab him.

Enter the DFA rule. When you DFA someone, you don't have to do anything for 10 days. 10 days from now, when he finally hits waivers, the season will have started and the other 29 teams will have had to set their rosters. Sure, one of them could make a mental note to be ready to clear a spot a few days after the season starts, but maybe they won't bother. He's more likely to clear waivers 10 days from now than tonight.

To DFA someone, you need a reason. Someone else has to take his spot. They could have promoted a minor leaguer but instead they saw Schuster, and thought "what the hell, maybe we can work out a trade", and picked him up.

WhawhaWhat 03-25-2014 07:35 PM

Big boy Home Run! The Royals just sat and watched.

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 07:35 PM

Chen gives up one to Parking Lot JJ

mr. tegu 03-25-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10516936)
Big boy Home Run! The Royals just sat and watched.

Horrible effort by Gordon. Someone should give him popcorn. Season over.

lewdog 03-25-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 10516930)
Screw anyone who disagrees. I love Dyson!

What, for his clutch hitting, his power or his great reads on fly balls?

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 07:45 PM

Chen getting drilled

kcjayhawks5 03-25-2014 07:47 PM

COME ON CHEN

alnorth 03-25-2014 07:47 PM

Odds that Chen collects his 15-start bonus?

SPATCH 03-25-2014 07:50 PM

Anybody watching via a stream? firstrowsports isn't working for me...

DeezNutz 03-25-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10516967)
Odds that Chen collects his 15-start bonus?

Not good. /Zimmer

mr. tegu 03-25-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10516945)
What, for his clutch hitting, his power or his great reads on fly balls?

All of the above of course.

Pablo 03-25-2014 07:55 PM

Well, I see I turned this thing on at just the right time.

Discuss Thrower 03-25-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10516984)
Well, I see I turned this thing on at just the right time.

Yeah no joke.

GloryDayz 03-25-2014 07:59 PM

OK, I think I'll change the channel now...

alnorth 03-25-2014 08:00 PM

Fun Fact: Chen has qualified for 10 and 5 rights under the CBA, which means he has a full no-trade this season.

mr. tegu 03-25-2014 08:00 PM

Why are they trying to run on Perez? LMAO

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:01 PM

Shields vs. Verlander for the opener

alnorth 03-25-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10517003)
Shields vs. Verlander for the opener

I've already taken off work to watch that game. Any objections to me starting that game thread Monday at 12:01 am?

tk13 03-25-2014 08:03 PM

Apparently Francoeur has been signed by the Padres to a minor league deal.

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:04 PM

Have at it alnorth

Discuss Thrower 03-25-2014 08:05 PM

The most pressing question is..

What in the world replaces Breakn a Sweat for Royals victories??

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:05 PM

HOsmer gets tossed. I likey

mr. tegu 03-25-2014 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10517009)
I've already taken off work to watch that game. Any objections to me starting that game thread Monday at 12:01 am?

Sounds good!

lewdog 03-25-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10517018)
HOsmer gets tossed. I likey

What?!

Shogun 03-25-2014 08:07 PM

lololol. Dumpster fire

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10517021)
What?!

2 close pitches and he "asked" the home plate ump. Now Ned's out mouthing

Shogun 03-25-2014 08:09 PM

lol @ trash fans booing hosmer while he walks out of a spring training game

lewdog 03-25-2014 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10517024)
2 close pitches and he "asked" the home plate ump. Now Ned's out mouthing

He asked and got tossed in spring training? He must have asked with some different verbage.

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10517027)
He asked and got tossed in spring training? He must have asked with some different verbage.

Hosmer followed the home plate umpire up the first base line, said one sentence and I believe the Home Plate Ump said "Oh that's bullshit" while he was tossing him

Pablo 03-25-2014 08:12 PM

Haha.

Oh, Bwuce.

lewdog 03-25-2014 08:13 PM

Hoz probably wanted to night off. Good for him.

DJJasonp 03-25-2014 08:15 PM

heh....it's starting to fall apart!!!!!

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/detroi...140500962.html

gblowfish 03-25-2014 08:17 PM

Hosmer must have a hot date, one last chance to bang some chick before they leave Arizona. Good for him.

alnorth 03-25-2014 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stonedstooge (Post 10517036)
Hosmer followed the home plate umpire up the first base line, said one sentence and I believe the Home Plate Ump said "Oh that's bullshit" while he was tossing him

oh. well, if thats what happened, Hosmer got himself run out then.

DJJasonp 03-25-2014 08:18 PM

a really cool story - sorry if repost:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...2656.html?vp=1

Discuss Thrower 03-25-2014 08:31 PM

Great. Rex Hudler with heavy machine guns and sniper rifles.

Pablo 03-25-2014 08:36 PM

Best part of the night so far. Guthrie with his Uncle Hud going strong right now.

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 08:36 PM

Gutrie doing standup in the dugout

GloryDayz 03-25-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10517009)
I've already taken off work to watch that game. Any objections to me starting that game thread Monday at 12:01 am?

No, but it better work God Dammit! Or else!!!!!!!!!

:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

lewdog 03-25-2014 08:49 PM

Opening game starts at 10 am for me! **** my life.

duncan_idaho 03-25-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10516724)
You obviously missed the exploits last year of Aaron "Negative WAR" Crow, Tiny Tim Collins walking every third batter and Kelvin "Chicks dig the long ball" Herrerra.


I do like the last one to at least step up this year.

Those aren't the only three guys in the pen.

Wade Davis (dominant as a reliever in 2012, dominant in that role for KC last year)

Kelvin Herrera (was great in the second half and very good after his return from Omaha - only allowed 1 HR in his final 38 IP).

Louis Coleman (lights out all season, especially against RHH, and greatly improved against LHH)

And yes, Crow and Collins. But Yost is actually carrying a lefty specialist in the pen this year, which should allow him to use Collins more appropriately (against RH hitters or more mixed lineups).

Crow, for as much as you rail against him, still has a good track record as a reliever and big-time stuff. He walks too many hitters, but he also has a good strikeout rate and is tough on elite RH bats. And he's not going to be the linchpin of the bullpen. Neither will Collins. Those roles likely fall to Davis and Herrera, who is really effective against LHP pitching because of his changeup.

gblowfish 03-25-2014 09:04 PM

Bueno looks muy Bueno!

Love watching Salvy work with the pitchers.

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10517147)
Bueno looks muy Bueno!

Love watching Salvy work with the pitchers.

He runs the team

Canofbier 03-25-2014 09:10 PM

Since Bray is passé, I went ahead and updated my avatar.

Deberg_1990 03-25-2014 09:15 PM

Great column from Rany the other day. Amazing fact:


http://www.ranyontheroyals.com

Back in 2011, I believe I wrote somewhere – and you’ll have to forgive me, I can’t find the reference – that the Royals probably had more Latin American talent in their farm system at that moment than they had developed in the 37 years before Dayton Moore was hired combined. Now, I know I can be guilty of hyperbole sometimes, hyperbole that occasionally tiptoes the line of outright untruth. But I stand by that statement 100%.

Here is a list of every amateur player that the Royals signed out of Latin America from 1969 to 2006, that would bat even 500 times or throw even 150 innings in the major leagues. (It’s possible that I missed someone, but I tried to be extremely thorough in my search.)

Player Signed Career bWAR

Melido Perez 1983 1987-1995 11.3
Luis Salazar 1973 1980-1992 9.1
Hipolito Pichardo 1987 1992-2002 6.3
Carlos Febles 1993 1998-2003 3.5
Runelvys Hernandez 1997 2002-2008 3.3
Andres Blanco 2000 2004-2011 1.2
Ambiorix Burgos 2000 2005-2007 0.7
Onix Concepcion 1976 1980-1987 0.0

This is an astounding list. In 37 years, the Royals came up with eight players that would last the equivalent of just one season in the major leagues, barely one every five years – two in the 1970s, two in the 1980s, two in the 1990s, and two in 2000. And it’s actually worse than that, because only three of those players amassed even 4 bWAR – the equivalent of basically two league-average seasons – in their careers.

Over 37 years, the best Latin American player the Royals developed who made a contribution to the team was Hipolito Pichardo. That is one of the most astoundingly depressing facts about the franchise that I’ve ever written, and I’ve written a lot of astoundingly depressing facts.

Pepe Silvia 03-25-2014 09:17 PM

Good luck this year guys, except your 4 games against the Cards.:)

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo (Post 10517184)
Good luck this year guys, except your 4 games against the Cards.:)

It will be nice to have you meet Mr. Ventura. HAHAHAHAHA

stonedstooge 03-25-2014 09:23 PM

Ump having a career night. 9 caught looking so far

Canofbier 03-25-2014 09:29 PM

Escobar just hit the ball so hard that he knocked the shortstop over!

C3HIEF3S 03-25-2014 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canofbier (Post 10517164)
Since Bray is passé, I went ahead and updated my avatar.

LMAO

Sure-Oz 03-25-2014 10:05 PM

Royals manager Ned Yost said Tuesday that he expects Omar Infante (elbow) to be ready for Opening Day.


Infante admitted that his elbow was still bothering him during a minor league game Tuesday, but Yost was pleased overall. "He played five innings, made two plays at second, had five at-bats, walked and scored from first on a double, so he looked good," Yost said. "Everything went well." Infante will play in another minor league game Wednesday before serving as a DH in a Cactus League game Thursday. "If he does good in all that, we're going to fly him to Milwaukee and let him play in both of those exhibition games and be ready for Opening Day," Yost said.
Source: Royals.mlb.com
Mar 25 - 11:05 PM

tyton75 03-26-2014 07:09 AM

I'm really starting to worry about who the backup infielder will be for Infante/Esky. I don't think Valencia can play all the spots, can he?

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-26-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10517501)
I'm really starting to worry about who the backup infielder will be for Infante/Esky. I don't think Valencia can play all the spots, can he?

Ciriaco didn't look good in the field last night.

Archie F. Swin 03-26-2014 07:24 AM

So, it looks like MLB.tv will not be showing opening day games.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...date=3/31/2014
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I understand MLB wants butts in the seats, but I don't live in the Royals media mkt. That's why I watch Royals games on MLB.tv!!

dallaschiefsfan 03-26-2014 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10517501)
I'm really starting to worry about who the backup infielder will be for Infante/Esky. I don't think Valencia can play all the spots, can he?

Pretty irrelevant, IMO. They have the Omaha pipeline up the road during half their games. As long as you can get through one game of Infante playing SS (if Escobar goes down) and Valencia or Moose playing 2B (if Infante goes down, then it's not really a pressing question. For that matter, I heard a random mention at some point during one of the ST telecasts that Yost thinks Moose can still play a decent SS in a pinch, if need be (he was drafted as a SS).

Point is...none of these are "great" options...they're just one-game emergency options. They HAVE indicated that if they wanted to give Escobar a game off, they put Valencia at 2B and Infante at SS, where he used to play as a utility guy back in the day.

dallaschiefsfan 03-26-2014 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 10517521)
So, it looks like MLB.tv will not be showing opening day games.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index...date=3/31/2014
This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I understand MLB wants butts in the seats, but I don't live in the Royals media mkt. That's why I watch Royals games on MLB.tv!!

And apparently, they're not broadcasting any audio/radio either...according to that page! CRAZY!!! >end sarcasm<

Dude...all the regular season game lineups/schedule are BLANK. You could calm down and think this through. They simply haven't updated their mlb.tv lineups for the start of the season. It will be on mlb.tv. Bank on it.

alnorth 03-26-2014 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10517501)
I'm really starting to worry about who the backup infielder will be for Infante/Esky. I don't think Valencia can play all the spots, can he?

He just needs to play 2B for 2 or 3 days next month. It won't be pretty, but he probably won't hurt us. Infante can cover for Escobar.

I think the plan is to wait until some injury in April or early May fixes the problem for us and we can bring up someone to give them a rest in May/June. If we are blessed enough to have no position player go on the DL for the first 2 months, then thats a good problem to have.


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