Yeah, didn't quite understand that.

209 man.

Somehow Roy Nelson just keeps getting it done. That dude is amazing. I doubt the results would have been the same against Carwin but he handled Mitrione.

GSP vs Diaz in March. Hendricks left out in the cold once again.

I fear it will be just GSP controlling from the top. I was really hoping for the GSP Silva superfight

Most likely you are right.

I think at this point there won't be any super fights. GSP really isn't a match for Silva and Silva doesn't want to move up and fight Jones.

What is that site that Pants always talks about where you can get a clear stream for like $4?

xmeforums.to

And it's $3.50

GET IT RIGHT, BUCK!

Speaking of it, the website just crashed on me. I don't know if it's working for anyone else or what's going on...

/sigh

I just went there, how the hell do you get the stream?

I'm not doing it now, there's a decent stream on the first row....Just for future reference?

Link 8 on thefirstrow.eu

pretty clear

What the hell happened to Mike Goldberg? This guy sucks.

JDS is going to knock him out again...first round.

I hope its the 3rd or 4th...want a better fight this time.

Velazquez owning. That's a 10-8 round.

Oh. My. God.

Good thing I don't bet.

Stream froze and missed first 20 seconds of the 2nd round...JDS already on the ground. Doubt if the fight makes it out of rd 2. gg JDS.

He's making JDS look like a rag doll!

Cain has insane cardio wow

This is a ****ing curb stomping.

Not really. If he did, the fight would have been over in the 2nd round...How did he not finish that? Dos Santos isn't even there.

He looks like he got hit in the face by an H-bomb.

JDS can take a ****ing beating. Holy crap.

for a heavyweeight to keep doing what he's doing. Hell, as ANY mma fighter who has the best cardio 9/10 will tell you Cain. When he trains the little dudes can barely keep up with him.

That was all Cain.

AND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JDS showed incredible heart to last all 5 rounds, but he took a career-changing beating in that fight. He'll be back, but he might not ever be the same after that.

HOLY CRAP, he got Mir'd

Great co and main events tonight. Money well spent.

That was between the 3rd and 4th rounds. You should have seen him at the end of the 5th. He had a Hasim Rahman-sized knot above his right eye and his face was about twice as bad as it looks in this picture. How he made it to the end of the fight, I'll never know.

Miller - Lauzon was one of the only ones worth a damn on the card IMO. JDS just flat got taken out behind the woodshed.

I thought both of the last 2 fights were well worth $55. In totally different ways, but definitely worth the money. MMA ppv dominates boxing ppv, in my opinion.

Heh, I don't get NASCAR for the life of me but I can see how you don't appreciate MMA unless you've taken a couple classes in a discipline. And don't get me wrong, it's brutal shit that rednecks love solely for the blood an pain.

But there is a lot of skill involved. I'm willing to give NASCAR the benefit of the doubt until I learn how to drive a race car.

I do see your point except for the 'blacks'. Anderson Silva is a ****ing ninja that may go his whole career undefeated and the current ambassador of UFC.

"undefeeted" - do we need to bump the roller coaster thread?

That main event was just flat out embarrassing for both fighters. Jesus Christ. Horrible. Cementing the fact that the UFC still can't put together a good crop in the HW division. Overeem will beat whoever they put in front of him and should hold the belt until he decides to retire. Just wow.

I dunno why....but I LMAO at that comment.

overeem would get stomped by either cain or jds on or off the steriods

ROFL
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Yeah I don't know when's the last time anyone gave a shit about boxing?

The one fight that everyone wanted to see never happened...and now probably never will if for anything else it's lost it's hype because of Pacquiao's recent losses. That mystique/invincibility and domination factor is gone now. Now I could give a shit whether or not he ever fights Mayweather. He's lost twice in a row...he's not the champ. There's just no star power or name recognition in the sport anymore. It's a dying sport. I couldn't name 5 current active professional boxers if I had to and in the 90's it was never like that. More and more amateurs are turning to MMA and eventually I see MMA as being an Olympic sport which will absolutely kill the sport of boxing or what's already left of it (btw - I think MMA as an Olympic sport would be ****ing awesome, hopefully Dana White gets it done, I know he's been lobbying for that).

As far as the MMA PPV's being "worth" their money ($55). I dunno. There are only a couple fights I think I've actually paid to see. Sonnen/Silva II which didn't really live up to the hype at all - got screwed there and then UFC100 which did live up to the hype and it was a kickass card.

Now I just watch them on firstrowsports.com or I go to the bar down the street and watch it for free. Of course I end up spending money anyways because I eat and drink a lot of beer during the 3-4hrs I'm there. Tonight I watched it online, and thought JDS was going to piss pound on Cain again...I dunno what the hell happened w/ JDS but he looked completely out of it after 3min into the first rd. I know he got hit a couple times but he was completely gassed. Then Cain didn't have it in him to finish him off, JDS was just asking to get knocked the **** out because he couldn't even raise his hands to fight/protect himself basically throughout the whole five rounds. The last round both were gassed as hell, JDS could barely stand on both legs and Cain was throwing shots about as fast as my grandfather.

Needless to say, glad I watched it online. Too bad Lesnar wasn't a better fighter and lasted longer in UFC...because no one really gives a shit about the HW division anymore. Hopefully this Daniel Cromier or whatever his name is can bring some life to the division after he puts a clown suit on the UFC's HW division's sacrificial goat Frank Mir.

I've been drinking. That didn't make much sense, not the first time. :toast:

Cheers brothers!

UFC needs Bobby Lashley and Dave Bautista LMAO

overeems been beat by a bunch of top ufc guys. hell rua beat him twice. cain would definitely whoop him. hed have a shot against jds. cains wrestling ground and pound relentless cardio will allow him to hold the title for awhile. only way cain loses is in the first 3 minutes on a lucky heavyweight punch. overeem doesnt even deserve to fight in the ufc. dudes been on the juice for the past decade

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Here Junior hold this for me.


Knuckle sandwich of death

youre an idiot

good rebuttal. u must know alot about mma

Cain will smash Overeem lmao.

Not even close IMO

Your reply doesn't even garner a response. It shows you don't even understand what you are watching. Lets dissect your post. So you want to sit here and say that comparing the Middleweight fights with Shogun/Overeem to the Heavyweight Overeem is the same thing? Fights that happened over 6-8 years ago? Lets just set that aside here and look at the fact that Overeem is the best Striker in the UFC at the moment. His kickboxing credentials speak for themselves. You honestly believe that if Cain got Overeem to the ground he would know what to do once he got there? Sorry, but Cain isn't holding him down there. Reem is an ADCC champ and he could work himself out of that situation. He also is not getting pounded out by Pillow fisted Cain Velasquez. Overeem is one of the most marketable fighters out there right now because of his unique background and sheer size. Overeem is a better striker than JDS and Cain. JDS was a better striker than Cain was as well. Overeem is just better bud, sorry.

Also please show me where Overeem has tested positive for steroids.

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herp derp

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wow, he looks tore up.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...a_white_040412

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You should just quit while you're way, way, waaaaaaaay behind.

Yeah, JDS definitely looks like he was the better striker.

Look at the UFC loser trying to play semantics. You were spewing all the same shit about Rua, you slob

Haven't watched the fights yet but I never thought JDS would be beaten down as bad as the pBp made it sound.

As for the Ubereem/Cain or JDS matchup, it is interesting on several accounts, especially the striking. Overeem did well in k1 because he covers up well and uses the larger gloves as defense. He gets tagged quite a bit more with the smaller gloves. Something to consider. Gonna be great fights though when they happen.

I will say that overeem has a punchers chance he has some of the best kickboxing in the world in any weight division in the ufc. adcc champ? lol whatchu smoking. boxing and wrestling are what wins in the ufc for the most part. bjj helps but its a whole different ballpark when u can punch someone. I dont see damian maia, palharas, dean lister winning ufc titles. bj penn is the only one and hes a little bitch at that. cain would play the same gameplan against overeem as he just did against jds. wrestle ride him & ground and pound out a victory. like I said before, only way overeem wins is if he knocks him out in the first 2 minutes

He tested positive for testosterone. In which he was cleared by a doctor as it was from a medication. Do some more research on the subject before you speak on it.

Yeah because being able to know how to use sweeps and sub defense is completely useless. Tell that to Comprido. Overeem has an excellent guillotine.

Testosterone is a steroid that acts as a hormone, dipshit. Go ahead and believe what you want to believe. 14-to-1

ROFL and if he was not cleared he would not be fighting. Go ahead and keep making shit up to be biased toward your point. Neither Cain nor JDS has faced a striker as good as Overeem. Maybe Crocop and Nogeuria but they were way past their primes and punching bags by that point.

Yeah jds' black belt in bjj really helped him alot last night didnt it

I don't give a shit about loser MMA

I will somewhat agree with this. I wasent giving overeem enough credit last night for his standup. I did not know he was a k1 champion. pretty badass. however jds' boxing skills were considered some of the best in the ufc in any weight class in the ufc up till last night cain made him look like an amateur. I just think cains relentless cardio, worldclass wrestling, and very good standup skills will allow him to hold the belt for awhile. overeem only beats him in the first 2 minutes on a punchers chance knockout. jds didnt look like the same jds last night. I was really perplexed by his showing.
anddont kid yourself overeems been juicing for the past 5 + years. prolly like over half the ufc test or 'bolic boosts im just saying. u cant practice mma for 4 + hours a day and lift weights and jump from 190 to 250lbs 5% bodyfat while making weight for fights. dude has definitely been on and off something for awhile.

Don't get trolled by idiots, Shogun.

This is fair. JDS does have some of the better boxing in the UFC. His biggest problem was, he was getting good looks in the 1st round until he seemingly dumped. He had no technique and he gassed. Cain was gassed during round 3 as well. But I credit that to him trying to finish. I'm not saying that Cain is a bad fighter. He has good wrestling and a solid striking game, I'm just saying that Overeem is a much much closer fight than you think it is. Also in 5+ years its completely attainable for Overeem to jump 60 lbs. Hes a world class athlete. He eats a lot of protein packed horse meat and has a very strict diet and weight training regimen. I read an article on it on a bodybuilding website with an interview with him discussing how he got that large. Now I will also say you're probably right, there is a lot of doping going on in sports and they are easily accessed now and people are hired to come in and manage their cycles so they're not caught. but he was cleared for his only positive test for testosterone that came from raised levels in a medication he was taking for his injured ribs. Chael Sonnen tested 16:1 as well.

damn horsemeat? I gotta get me some of that! lol

overeem will most likely smash bigfoot. dude sucks.
id like to read that article if you can ever find it that sounds pretty interesting.
I just dont see how he or anyone for that matter can gain 50 + lbs of all muscle while still training mma all day. you/he would have to be eating legitimately like a gorilla. lol

http://www.muscleprodigy.com/alistai...arcl-2256.html


haha good god

yeah thats one of the ones i was talking about, its unreal. and i read somewhere he eats somewhere between 5000-6000kcal a day

watch that video I posted also if you can...hes cooking steak talking about his eating routine...its hilarious

its ridiculous how much he and his daughter look alike but his mom looks nothing like him, but shes big too lol

some of the best athletic genetics on the planet coupled with amazing dedication to lifting, mma training and eating, I guess its possible. I dunno tho man id say hes been on something unnatural at some point in his career. that still doesnt take away from his shear dedication though. im an overeem believer now. still think cain will just out wrestle him though. itll be a great matchup

Glad we found a happy middle! I hope it will be a good fight. Its a classic style vs style fight and those are usually good.

Holy shit, just watched Cain vs JDS. Wow. Cigano gassed in the first and was beaten the **** down.

Honestly, they both looked pretty gassed after the 1st round. It's an example of why i'll never throw good money at a UFC heavyweight fight. These guys are so big and hit so hard that typically the first solid punch or two finishes the fight...and if the fight isn't finished then it drags on because they're too gassed to finish it.

You thought Cain looked gassed? I thought it was just because he moves/strikes awkwardly.

****, Cigano was just beaten. I mean, wow.

I'm pretty sure Cain wasn't gassed. He has amazing cardio.


I do wonder where this leaves Daniel Cormier. I thought he might be next in line if JDS won.

I think he's taking a fight at HW and will then weigh his options (i.e. see how Ubereem v Cain turns out).

There are a lot of good fights for Cormier outside of Cain. I also think he makes 205 without too much trouble. He's spoken openly about making the cut.

Dan struggled making 211 for the last several years when wrestling. Both feature night before weigh-ins as opposed to day of.

If he's going to make 205, it is going to be a process. He could do it but his kidneys have taken quite a bit of abuse from it previously.