For me, I don't really think that you can coach up accuracy, and by all accounts, Mayfield's is a good as anyone that has come out in years.

The question becomes, what is his work ethic and desire.

That was what separated Brees.

As to the question that was raised earlier, Watson or Mayfield?

I'm taking Mayfield.

I just don't believe that you can have sustained success with an arm that weak.

I think he'll be just fine. Watching him in hardknocks and he comes off as a guy that won't let adversity bring him down.

Dude has charm and personability. I think they have a star on their hands.

Man, you guys are a lot more confident in Mayfield than I am.

No way I’m taking him over Watson yet.

We have yet to see him against a real NFL defense. He’s used to playing shit defenses with all the time in the world and some really nice weapons. I just don’t think he’s this sure thing whatsoever. It’s not like Pat who had a shit OL, average weapons at best, and no defense playing against those bad defenses.

I don't want to speak for those guys, but I'm guessing you're overestimating Watson's professional experience.

I'm guessing these guys are viewing Watson as a complete unknown, so if you're going off college plus measurables, they're taking Baker.

Mayfield's footwork in the pocket is very, very good for a rookie. He also has been doing a good job keeping his eyes downfield.

All the rookie QBs (except Jackson) are doing well their first two games.

There are a ton of question marks with Baker. As said earlier I’m not sold on Watson, arm strength, durability and accuracy are big concerns with him.

Also Baker has walked on to 2 different programs and responded well in each instance.

It's been an entertaining season so far of Hard Knocks. I hope the Browns can find some success, that city needs it after Lebron left

Baker needs to sit and learn. Tyrod is a true pro's pro in this league and has more to teach Baker than most people would think.

I'm taking Watson for the size and higher ceiling.

Baker got tilted by Kansas, he should of laughed off those no talent players taunts but instead they got in his head. Dude is a Ryan Leafesque meltdown ready to happen.

Anyone see Terrance Mitchell bug the shit out of Landry on Hard Knocks and take a sucker punch from him? Didn't realize Landry was such a diva

Yeah, I saw that. I was liking Landry up until that episode, too.

Terrence Mitchell was being a punk.

Carl Nassib vs Todd Haley in the Oklahoma drill needs to happen.

Except for his very first program at Texas Tech where PM2 handed Baker his arse.:D