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Ragged Robin 01-05-2014 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10343848)
Again, show me where i said that Jenkins could never develop or improve? I actually stated that you are assuming he will improve to the point where he is a better option than Avery. I stated that he has shown nothing so far to say that he will. That is a true statement.

If you want to believe that i am butthurt over stating my opinion, then you obviously are female.

They're already pretty much the same player, however one being cheaper and 6 years younger intrinsically means that he has more potential to get better. I don't understand this imaginary pedestal you're putting Avery on.

Post after post you lash out with name calling and you're saying that I'm the one that's making this personal? ROFL

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Originally Posted by MeatRock (Post 10343865)
That's not the point. I agree they both need replaced. I never stated otherwise. I would rather keep Avery in the slot over Jenkins until Jenkins shows more than he has. Which has been absolutely nothing.

Avery doesn't play in the slot.

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343843)
Jenkins = Avery.

Both needs replaced. Neither are the solution to this team.

The stats say otherwise, but it seemed to me that Avery was the most targeted and productive WR. Jenkins is still young and is going to get big, he's going to be able to wreck some of the smaller quicker defenders. If he gets the right motivation to succeed, he will be good. He was rumored to be lazy in niner camp. I've not really heard anything good bad or neutral about him since he came the KC.

JakeLV 01-05-2014 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10343853)
Luck blows the doors off KC if he doesn't throw three picks. The defense had no answer for Hilton or any of the other options and the offense couldn't answer with touchdowns in key situations.

Alex's performance in that game is 50% smoke and mirrors based SOLELY on Luck's turnovers.

Right... The turnovers lead to 440 yards of offense.

The guy had 3 picks. 1 at the end of the half, which led to nothing. The other two leading to 10 points. So 34 points instead of 44.... Right all smoke and mirrors.

Again, there is no logical argument you can make that says because a score came from a TO, it doesn't count.

Good night sir.

Mav 01-05-2014 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10343853)
Luck blows the doors off KC if he doesn't throw three picks. The defense had no answer for Hilton or any of the other options and the offense couldn't answer with touchdowns in key situations.

Alex's performance in that game is 50% smoke and mirrors based SOLELY on Luck's turnovers.

Not that you will pay any attention to this but do you realize that the chiefs are built around the defense and jamal, and the Colts are built around Luck? Smoke and mirrors with out 37 percent of the offense. Debate it.

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10343880)
Not that you will pay any attention to this but do you realize that the chiefs are built around the defense and jamal, and the Colts are built around Luck? Smoke and mirrors with out 37 percent of the offense. Debate it.

I don't have to debate anything. You just proved what smart people already know.

Teams that are built around elite QBs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeLV (Post 10343875)
Right... The turnovers lead to 440 yards of offense.

The guy had 3 picks. 1 at the end of the half, which led to nothing. The other two leading to 10 points. So 34 points instead of 44.... Right all smoke and mirrors.

Again, there is no logical argument you can make that says because a score came from a TO, it doesn't count.

Good night sir.

She sure has a knack for bringing out the alts when she is in dire need of backup.

MeatRock 01-05-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10343867)
They're already pretty much the same player, however one being cheaper and 6 years younger intrinsically means that he has more potential to get better. I don't understand this imaginary pedestal you're putting Avery on.

Post after post you lash out with name calling and you're saying that I'm the one that's making this personal? ROFL



Avery doesn't play in the slot.

:banghead: I know Avery doesn't play in the slot. I am assuming that we upgrade the wide receiver position next year. Maybe play Avery in the slot.

It's never personal BTW. I never called you a name until after you claimed i was butthurt for posting a response. I then called you a douche.

Avery and Jenkins obviously have the same skill set, although one is more experienced and the other is younger.

We can assume shit all night long if you would like, but i will take the proven over the unproven.

MeatRock 01-05-2014 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10343867)
They're already pretty much the same player, however one being cheaper and 6 years younger intrinsically means that he has more potential to get better. I don't understand this imaginary pedestal you're putting Avery on.

Post after post you lash out with name calling and you're saying that I'm the one that's making this personal? ROFL



Avery doesn't play in the slot.

The cheaper argument holds very little water as cutting Avery saves maybe a million next year. That's pennies.

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10343888)
I don't have to debate anything. You just proved what smart people already know.

Teams that are built around elite QBs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

That you are an insecure simpleton that instead of admitting your mistake, will continue to fight a battle that has long since been lost. They made a movie about you, it was called Hell in the Pacific. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTPd3eOPPNQ

Coach 01-05-2014 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by laughsatyou907 (Post 10343868)
The stats say otherwise, but it seemed to me that Avery was the most targeted and productive WR. Jenkins is still young and is going to get big, he's going to be able to wreck some of the smaller quicker defenders. If he gets the right motivation to succeed, he will be good. He was rumored to be lazy in niner camp. I've not really heard anything good bad or neutral about him since he came the KC.

That's fine, and Avery may be the most productive WR, but he also drops a lot of easy passes. There's a reason why he played 4 different teams in 5 years. What the reason is, I have no idea.

And I just see Jenkins the same aspect as Avery is. Neither are the solution to the WR problem. I see both of them as solid depth, can fill in a pinch, but not starter material.

KC needs a WR or a TE that draws a lot of attention, away from Bowe and Charles.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10343853)

Alex's performance in that game is 50% smoke and mirrors based SOLELY on Luck's turnovers.

I see five very solid, long drives.

I see two aided by turnovers.

http://i.imgur.com/xEvjM53.jpg

Alex succeeded in this game on his own merits.

MeatRock 01-05-2014 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 10343867)
They're already pretty much the same player, however one being cheaper and 6 years younger intrinsically means that he has more potential to get better. I don't understand this imaginary pedestal you're putting Avery on.

Post after post you lash out with name calling and you're saying that I'm the one that's making this personal? ROFL



Avery doesn't play in the slot.

I don't understand your understanding of this imaginary pedestal you think i am putting Avery on. How's that?

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10343903)
That's fine, and Avery may be the most productive WR, but he also drops a lot of easy passes. There's a reason why he played 4 different teams in 5 years. What the reason is, I have no idea.

And I just see Jenkins the same aspect as Avery is. Neither are the solution to the WR problem. I see both of them as solid depth, can fill in a pinch, but not starter material.

KC needs a WR or a TE that draws a lot of attention, away from Bowe and Charles.

Don't get me wrong I wasn't praising Avery, everyone dropped a lot of easy passes which still dumbfounds me. I think Charles got so many targets because they were trying to open it up for Bowe, and Bowes' ego took over and he quit trying before they could open it up for him.

Discuss Thrower 01-05-2014 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead (Post 10343905)
I see five very solid, long drives.

I see two aided by turnovers.

http://i.imgur.com/xEvjM53.jpg

Alex succeeded in this game on his own merits.

All of those drives in the first half.

Everything after the last touchdown was Casselian, don't you deny it.

laughsatyou907 01-05-2014 01:16 AM

Like scoring on a turnover is a negative, you cowards.


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