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eazyb81 10-17-2011 08:50 AM

Big 12 should just replace Mizzou with West Virginia or Louisville and stay at 10 teams. The round robin format is more interesting and provides more national respect for the teams that would be in a North division.

Saul Good 10-17-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8001206)
Big 12 should just replace Mizzou with West Virginia or Louisville and stay at 10 teams. The round robin format is more interesting and provides more national respect for the teams that would be in a North division.

Looks like you're being about as productive as me today between CP and PM.

eazyb81 10-17-2011 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 8001221)
Looks like you're being about as productive as me today between CP and PM.

I was out of town the last four days for a wedding, need to make up for lost internet time.

Saulbadguy 10-17-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8001206)
Big 12 should just replace Mizzou with West Virginia or Louisville and stay at 10 teams. The round robin format is more interesting and provides more national respect for the teams that would be in a North division.

I'd much rather have West Virginia than Louisville. Athletically they are superior to both Mizzou and Louisville.

Louisville wouldn't be a bad consolation prize I suppose.

Saul Good 10-17-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8001261)
I'd much rather have West Virginia than Louisville. Athletically they are superior to both Mizzou and Louisville.

Louisville wouldn't be a bad consolation prize I suppose.

I think WVU joins the SEC along with NC State to round out the conference at 16.

eazyb81 10-17-2011 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8001261)
I'd much rather have West Virginia than Louisville. Athletically they are superior to both Mizzou and Louisville.

Louisville wouldn't be a bad consolation prize I suppose.

Superior is hyperbole; WVU is probably even with Mizzou in terms of overall football and basketball, with most of their football success under Rich Rodriguez. They've made a killing recruiting kids in SEC country that couldn't qualify at other schools, so it will be interesting to see how they do in the Big 12 with stiffer academic requirements.

HemiEd 10-17-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8001261)
I'd much rather have West Virginia than Louisville. Athletically they are superior to both Mizzou and Louisville.

Louisville wouldn't be a bad consolation prize I suppose.

I agree, WV would be an upgrade for the Big 12.

tredadda 10-17-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 8001289)
Superior is hyperbole; WVU is probably even with Mizzou in terms of overall football and basketball, with most of their football success under Rich Rodriguez. They've made a killing recruiting kids in SEC country that couldn't qualify at other schools, so it will be interesting to see how they do in the Big 12 with stiffer academic requirements.

I also disagree that WVU is "superior" to Mizzou in football and basketball. Their football success has come from getting kids that don't qualify at other schools as you have stated, but also they have benefitted from playing in a weaker BE at least from a football standpoint. Mizzou has been a consistent 10 win team playing in the Big XII which was arguably the second toughest football conference. Had they played in the BE (like WVU) or the WAC/MWC (like Boise State), they too would have played in big money BCS games. They were good enough to play in BCS games in previous years, the problem was they never made it to them due to their inability to beat OU and UT. Now put Boise, WVU, UCONN, or TCU in the Big XII over the last 10 years or so and see how many BCS games they play in and put Mizzou in an AQ conference like the BE and see how many Mizzou has.

tredadda 10-17-2011 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 8001302)
I agree, WV would be an upgrade for the Big 12.

They would. I would like to see WVU, UoL (as a travel partner for WVU and for their strong BBall team) and one other come in to replace Mizzou if they leave and bring the conference back to 12. They can then do something like how the SEC does it with a permanent cross conference rival game. There is too much money in a Big XII Championship game not to go to 12.

Saulbadguy 10-17-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8001321)
I also disagree that WVU is "superior" to Mizzou in football and basketball. Their football success has come from getting kids that don't qualify at other schools as you have stated, but also they have benefitted from playing in a weaker BE at least from a football standpoint. Mizzou has been a consistent 10 win team playing in the Big XII which was arguably the second toughest football conference. Had they played in the BE (like WVU) or the WAC/MWC (like Boise State), they too would have played in big money BCS games. They were good enough to play in BCS games in previous years, the problem was they never made it to them due to their inability to beat OU and UT. Now put Boise, WVU, UCONN, or TCU in the Big XII over the last 10 years or so and see how many BCS games they play in and put Mizzou in an AQ conference like the BE and see how many Mizzou has.

West Virginia destroyed Oklahoma in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. :doh!:

They have 2 BCS bowl victories and a Final Four appearance in recent history.

But yeah, I could see how they are "even" with Mizzou.

eazyb81 10-17-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 8001337)
West Virginia destroyed Oklahoma in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl. :doh!:

They have 2 BCS bowl victories and a Final Four appearance in recent history.

But yeah, I could see how they are "even" with Mizzou.

ku beat Virginia Tech in an Orange Bowl a few years back too. Guess they are better. :doh!:

I have to admit, this new defense mechanism by ku and ksu fans is pretty hilarious.

"Mizzou will never get an SEC bid!!! hahaha"

then:

"Well.....Mizzou will get destroyed in the SEC!!! hahaha"

then:

"Umm......West Virginia is even BETTER than Mizzou!!! hahaha"

Saul Good 10-17-2011 10:14 AM

It doesn't really matter. Its unlikely they wind up in the Big XII.

KChiefs1 10-17-2011 10:15 AM

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Bearcat 10-17-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8001321)
Mizzou has been a consistent 10 win team playing in the Big XII

Yeah, five 9+ win seasons in the history of the program (including 1960 and 1969).

And as stated by someone else last week, they're a consistent top-25 team in FB and BB, even though both programs combined have finished a season in the top 25 only 5 times in the last 10 years.

Pants 10-17-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 8001374)
Yeah, five 9+ win seasons in the history of the program (including 1960 and 1969).

And as stated by someone else last week, they're a consistent top-25 team in FB and BB, even though both programs combined have finished a season in the top 25 only 5 times in the last 10 years.

lulz

Bearcat with a dose of reality as usual.


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