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Sassy Squatch 06-18-2024 09:53 AM

Probably a good decision to send Punk/McIntyre to Smackdown. Recently RAW has had almost all the compelling angles.

Bron Breaker destroying everyone
Chad Gable going full heel
Liv Morgan ****ing with Rhea

Smackdown had **** all by comparison. Cody and friends vs the Bloodline was already stale as **** before The Rock got involved and now it seems to be in a perpetual holding pattern until Reigns and Rock come back. Only thing I'd find interesting is Jacob Fatu debuting.

Jerm 06-18-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17555374)
Except for Kane/Undertaker on the build to WM14, the spooky/supernatural stuff never works all that well in wrestling.

The early Wyatt Family stuff in developmental and even in the beginning of their run on the main roster was awesome...

It was more the deranged Texas Chainsaw Massacre family style mixed with cultish stuff with a tinge of supernatural and it was great.

I do think stuff like that can still work.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17555719)
The early Wyatt Family stuff in developmental and even in the beginning of their run on the main roster was awesome...

It was more the deranged Texas Chainsaw Massacre family style mixed with cultish stuff with a tinge of supernatural and it was great.

I do think stuff like that can still work.

Agree. I think it worked because it had a sense of reality to it.

Crazy deranged cult. Never know what they’re capable of.

I think the real issue is finding opponents for them or just the idea that they’re competing in wrestling at all.

If they can just murder Chad Gable, then why do they care about getting DQ-ed for using a chair?

Mecca 06-18-2024 12:26 PM

It just never works, the minute they sell they lose the aura, if they don't sell they just murk people so anyone they work with comes out looking worse...it's a no win situation.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17555752)
It just never works, the minute they sell they lose the aura, if they don't sell they just murk people so anyone they work with comes out looking worse...it's a no win situation.

It worked so well with Kane, because he was working with Undertaker.

Neither character needed to compete for a title to be taken seriously.

I don’t see an obvious opponent for them that makes sense.

They almost needs to just have cinematic matches exclusively or something by like that.

Otherwise, we’ll get Nia Jax just sitting on Nikki Cross and killing her.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 12:43 PM

So is Chad Gable dead now? Or will he start feuding with Otis next week?

Jerm 06-18-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17555783)
So is Chad Gable dead now? Or will he start feuding with Otis next week?

Gunther too lol.

Sassy Squatch 06-18-2024 01:13 PM

That was always the problem with Fiend Wyatt in particular. No one ever got over after working with him (except LA Knight ironically) and a few top stars outright refused programs with him.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17555836)
That was always the problem with Fiend Wyatt in particular. No one ever got over after working with him (except LA Knight ironically) and a few top stars outright refused programs with him.

The Hell in the Cell with Rollins was bad. Why did the ref stop the match to protect a monster?

Goldberg beating the Fiend was jumping the shark.

Sassy Squatch 06-18-2024 01:17 PM

LMAO Goldberg having the audacity to outright bury that character is never not funny.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17555843)
LMAO Goldberg having the audacity to outright bury that character is never not funny.

They should bring Goldberg back to destroy this group like he did Raven’s Flock in 1998.

That would be hilarious.

otherstar 06-18-2024 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17555374)
Except for Kane/Undertaker on the build to WM14, the spooky/supernatural stuff never works all that well in wrestling.

Kevin Sullivan built an entire career on the spooky/supernatural. No, it never got super-huge, but he didn't work for the WWE, it was just his shtick in the NWA/WCW for years.

We'll see how this pans out. I'm skeptically optimistic.

smithandrew051 06-18-2024 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by otherstar (Post 17556089)
Kevin Sullivan built an entire career on the spooky/supernatural. No, it never got super-huge, but he didn't work for the WWE, it was just his shtick in the NWA/WCW for years.

We'll see how this pans out. I'm skeptically optimistic.

The Dungeon of Doom stuff in the early Hogan WCW days was pretty terrible.

His stuff from the territory days was great though. His possession or whatever of Luna was good stuff. She became almost unrecognizable from her early days.

Hard to compare the territory days to now though.

I’m curious to see where it goes. Could be great for all I know.

ToxSocks 06-18-2024 05:32 PM

I haven't kept up with this shit since the attitude era. So someone is trying to recapture the ol' Undertaker magic, eh?

Chitownchiefsfan 06-18-2024 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17556182)
I haven't kept up with this shit since the attitude era. So someone is trying to recapture the ol' Undertaker magic, eh?

It's slightly more complicated than that.
But yeah. Mostly.


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