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duncan_idaho 05-29-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9718375)
Choo is a quietly crappy outfielder who should be nowhere near center, but one of the best leadoff men in baseball. I'd bet he gets 13-16 million/year.

That crappiness stands out quite a bit in CF, but is not so bad in RF. Especially considering the offense he provides.

I'd gladly do 5 years, $75 million for Choo. That would take him into his age 35 season, but you'd get most of that value out of him, IMO.

Much better than spending that money on Ethier, IMO.

Simply Red 05-30-2013 12:09 AM

Guys - the season is young - the streaks will happen to most all teams - like the Chiefs - I understand your frustration. Really I do. But the Royals will get past it - they're just cold right now - they're WAY better than they've shown these last few weeks.

I have way more faith in the Royals - vs the Chiefs.

But I'd still go to the Berbiglia and stock up on Scotch if I were you.


cookster50 05-30-2013 06:39 AM

Can we just close this thread and be done with all things Royals yet?

stonedstooge 05-30-2013 06:42 AM

News reported LeadHead Ned exploded after the game yesterday. Then they show him giving his lines in his usual monotone demeanor about spanking players and threatening to send them down, etc. Bastard can't even do a rant properly.

Demonpenz 05-30-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9718378)
Supposedly the Dodgers are now spinning the tires on Chase Utley. Clown shoes.

kicking the tires?

BigMeatballDave 05-30-2013 07:03 AM

Yost fired yet?

Fansy the Famous Bard 05-30-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9718523)
Yost fired yet?

Nope, go back to sleep.

Archie F. Swin 05-30-2013 07:38 AM

While Yost is deserving of criticism, I will be pissed if GMDM is permitted to hire a third skipper. Moore and his talent evaluators must go.

duncan_idaho 05-30-2013 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin (Post 9718549)
While Yost is deserving of criticism, I will be pissed if GMDM is permitted to hire a third skipper. Moore and his talent evaluators must go.

I think Moore's talent evaluators are fine, actually. They are identifying talent.

Where it is failing is development. Starting pitchers have hit a wall at AA. Hitters have hit a wall in the majors.

After seeing the moronic comments of Jack Maloof - the guy who spent the past 5 years as the minor league hitting coordinator, the guy who sets the tone for hitting development for the entire system and who has ultimate say on what a hitter does - I have to place the hitting development blame at his feet.

I'm not sure what the situation is with his counterpart on the pitching side of things. I know at one time, they made a change to Rick KNapp, but I think he's been gone a year or so now.

I believe Knapp was replaced by Steve Foster late last year, but I can't confirm what Knapp is up to these days. Bill Fischer, who has been here since Moore arrived, is the Sr. Pitching Instructor. Haven't heard good things about him.

Basically, the consistent problem I've heard with development is that they take a cookie-cutter approach with pitchers and hitters.

All pitchers are pushed to be FB-CB-CH pitchers, using the same off-day program (though I think they've relaxed a little on the long toss/conditioning programs). Hitters are all preached the middle of the field approach.

KCUnited 05-30-2013 08:05 AM

Holy shit, Bill Fischer is older than Bill Muir. We really have an 82 year old pitching coach?

duncan_idaho 05-30-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9718570)
Holy shit, Bill Fischer is older than Bill Muir. We really have an 82 year old pitching coach?

Yes. And until Rick Knapp was hired in 2011, Fischer was the pitching coordinator for the minor leagues, setting the overall plan and tone for pitching development.

DJ's left nut 05-30-2013 08:22 AM

Okay, so I just can't stop giggling at the prospect that Fescoe put forward this morning:

Tony LaRussa.

Oh lord, that would be beautiful. With as long as you fellas have hated LaRussa, I would just crack me up if you hired him.

That said - not gonna happen. He's not leaving California to come back to Missouri to manage. He wouldn't have walked away from a WS winner if that was what he wanted to do. However, what could happen, is that you could throw a boatload of money his way to be the GM. He's talked about wanting to come back to baseball in a front-office role.

Would Royals fans flip their shit if LaRussa came in as a GM and brought Oquendo in as his manager? I think that would be his managerial move, IMO.

Strongside 05-30-2013 08:25 AM

Lets just give the Royals to Oklahoma City in exchange for the Thunder.

chefsos 05-30-2013 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 9718520)
kicking the tires?

Well, he is up on blocks at the moment.

duncan_idaho 05-30-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9718587)
Okay, so I just can't stop giggling at the prospect that Fescoe put forward this morning:

Tony LaRussa.

Oh lord, that would be beautiful. With as long as you fellas have hated LaRussa, I would just crack me up if you hired him.

That said - not gonna happen. He's not leaving California to come back to Missouri to manage. He wouldn't have walked away from a WS winner if that was what he wanted to do. However, what could happen, is that you could throw a boatload of money his way to be the GM. He's talked about wanting to come back to baseball in a front-office role.

Would Royals fans flip their shit if LaRussa came in as a GM and brought Oquendo in as his manager? I think that would be his managerial move, IMO.

I've long thought Tony La Russa was a brilliant manager who was ahead of his time. His ability to innovate and accept new data and trends was impressive, IMO. I like him individually, too. (Even if he IS friends with that crusty old bastard Buzz Bissinger).

That said, as a GM... he's a novice. And I honestly would be pretty scared by the way he treated Colby Rasmus (a very naturally talented but frustrating player) in the media.

The Cardinals' return for Rasmus helped them win a World Series, but it would have been higher if La Russa hadn't run him down so much in the press.

I don't think this would be a good fit for La Russa as the GM.


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