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Chiefspants 12-23-2024 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17873123)
What a wonderful world we live in when Deberg is back and he's taken on the role of trolling the trolls.

Return of the KING

BossChief 12-23-2024 09:02 PM

I wonder how many times the Mahomes to Xavier connections will knock Buffalo out of the playoffs.

Gotta eat the fans alive knowing they gave us both guys.

Bump 12-23-2024 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17872646)
Veach can’t draft WRs

/Chiefsplanet.

Then drafts Rice and Worthy in back to back years. He’s a balla!

2 out of 3 ain't bad


I don't know why there are people who think that GM's should have a 100% draft pick success rate. I guarantee that has never happened and it never will.

Overall Veach has been stellar at the draft. There's always going to be a few busts.

jjchieffan 12-23-2024 10:18 PM

I remember reading a story a month or so ago that was saying how Buffalo wasn't so dumb after all for allowing the Chiefs to trade up for Worthy. It went on to say how he looked like a bust and how much better Keon Coleman's stats were. I just rolled my eyes. Worthy had 264 yards to Coleman's 417. They both had 3 receiving TD's. Worthy should have better numbers as a first round pick they said. Now look at the numbers. Worthy has surpassed Coleman after Coleman missed 4 games due to injury. Coleman is at 498 yards and 3 TDs after 11 games. Worthy has 559 yards and 5TD in 15 games. Still less yards per game. But my point is that it's just silly trying to write someone off halfway through their rookie season. But you see it all over the media every year. This time, it was just someone trying to make Bills fans feel better about the Chiefs getting Worthy with their pick. Lol

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-23-2024 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17873232)
I remember reading a story a month or so ago that was saying how Buffalo wasn't so dumb after all for allowing the Chiefs to trade up for Worthy. It went on to say how he looked like a bust and how much better Keon Coleman's stats were. I just rolled my eyes. Worthy had 264 yards to Coleman's 417. They both had 3 receiving TD's. Worthy should have better numbers as a first round pick they said. Now look at the numbers. Worthy has surpassed Coleman after Coleman missed 4 games due to injury. Coleman is at 498 yards and 3 TDs after 11 games. Worthy has 559 yards and 5TD in 15 games. Still less yards per game. But my point is that it's just silly trying to write someone off halfway through their rookie season. But you see it all over the media every year. This time, it was just someone trying to make Bills fans feel better about the Chiefs getting Worthy with their pick. Lol

He passes the eye test, too. You see him making plays just about every week. Just some rookie struggles early in the season, not to mention an offense that's literally had to reinvent itself week after week with all the injuries we've sustained.

He's gonna be fine.

Smed1065 12-24-2024 03:56 PM

Is it wrong I have a man-crush on him? Man him and Rice next year I hope.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-24-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065 (Post 17873683)
Is it wrong I have a man-crush on him? Man him and Rice next year I hope.

I was the same way with Rice last year. I was freaking out down the stretch and in the postseason when everything started clicking with him.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 02:54 PM

Worthy is Nagy’s new Tarik Cohen.

Gadget focal.

Deberg_1990 12-25-2024 03:56 PM

Worthy got penalized for this. Gun motion or not?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WILD: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> WR Xavier Worthy raised up his shirt and did NOT PULL OUT ANYTHING and the NFL refs assumed just assumed it was a gun motion.<br><br>Worthy should not have been penalized for this.<a href="https://t.co/teJ4WcdM4A">pic.twitter.com/teJ4WcdM4A</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1871984716330774847?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BWillie 12-25-2024 03:58 PM

He's getting better (and being utilized more) on the shorter and intermediate routes. We don't really need him to be the deep burner. That isn't how we move the ball and score anyway.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17876964)
He's getting better (and being utilized more) on the shorter and intermediate routes. We don't really need him to be the deep burner. That isn't how we move the ball and score anyway.

Not a fan of using Hollywood and DHop as decoys for gadget plays at the LOS to Worthy.

Chiefspants 12-25-2024 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17876978)
Not a fan of using Hollywood and DHop as decoys for gadget plays at the LOS to Worthy.

The only thing I didn’t like about it was that Pitt was eventually able to time it.

Otherwise those play calls were golden against Pitt’s line today, especially as we couldn’t get anything going on the ground.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17876982)
The only thing I didn’t like about it was that Pitt was eventually able to time it.

Otherwise those play calls were golden against Pitt’s line today, especially as we couldn’t get anything going on the ground.

I don’t care about a few times.


That should not be fundamental to the offense.

RunKC 12-25-2024 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17876611)
Worthy is Nagy’s new Tarik Cohen.

Gadget focal.

LMAO

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PHOG 12-25-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17876959)
Worthy got penalized for this. Gun motion or not?


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WILD: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> WR Xavier Worthy raised up his shirt and did NOT PULL OUT ANYTHING and the NFL refs assumed just assumed it was a gun motion.<br><br>Worthy should not have been penalized for this.<a href="https://t.co/teJ4WcdM4A">pic.twitter.com/teJ4WcdM4A</a></p>&mdash; MLFootball (@_MLFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/_MLFootball/status/1871984716330774847?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, and there was another play later in the game where Worthy had a nice sideline catch for a 1st down, and he got up and gave the signal for a 1st down, and that same ref was on down the field reaching for his flag and I guess decided not to throw it. PUTZ, that's not a flag!

TwistedChief 12-25-2024 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17877007)
LMAO

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AD Mitchell is the “alpha” WR MahomesMagic was promised.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17877007)
LMAO

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Irrelevant to the point I made but ok.


LMAO

Chiefspants 12-25-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17876999)
I don’t care about a few times.


That should not be fundamental to the offense.

It’s essentially our “four yard run” with an offensive line that can’t run the ball. Until it stops being effective, I see why we’re leaning on it like we are.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-25-2024 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17876611)
Worthy is Nagy’s new Tarik Cohen.

Gadget focal.

Congrats on finding something to bitch about.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17877017)
It’s essentially our “four yard run” with an offensive line that can’t run the ball. Until it stops being effective, I see why we’re leaning on it like we are.


Hopefully we’re saving the best stuff for the playoffs. I don’t want to see that heavy a mix of LOS gadget plays again this year.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17877030)
Congrats on finding something to bitch about.

Sounds like you’re on your period.

Merry Christmas.

dlphg9 12-25-2024 04:31 PM

Lol MahomesMagic can't stand that his, "Alpha WR", AD Mitchell sucks so much shit and Xavier Worthy, a real alpha, is becoming Patrick Mahomes' number one target.

RunKC 12-25-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17877030)
Congrats on finding something to bitch about.

He bitched and hated that we won the SB last year bc we didn’t win it his way throwing 50 yard bombs all game. Only Chiefs fan here that was mad that we won the SB.

But he is just a kid in Hawaii that only follows this team bc of Mahomes as seen by his registration date.

A loser
A traitor
A coward

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17877071)
He bitched and hated that we won the SB last year bc we didn’t win it his way throwing 50 yard bombs all game. Only Chiefs fan here that was mad that we won the SB.

But he is just a kid in Hawaii that only follows this team bc of Mahomes as seen by his registration date.

A loser
A traitor
A coward


You’re just making shit up now because you’re a brain damaged tool who can’t read or write.

I know you love shitty ass offense though.

Your boy hopefully silent in the playoffs.

Reid will fully take over and we’ll score more than 30 first playoff game.

Chitownchiefsfan 12-25-2024 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17877032)
Hopefully we’re saving the best stuff for the playoffs. I don’t want to see that heavy a mix of LOS gadget plays again this year.

No1curr

Dunerdr 12-25-2024 04:45 PM

I’m just here to upvote all the callouts that Mahomes magic is down voting

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:48 PM

It’s the Mahomes isn’t that good crowd back in play.

staylor26 12-25-2024 04:48 PM

The Chiefs look as good as they've looked all season for the second week in a row and this bundle of sticks wants to bitch SMH.

TwistedChief 12-25-2024 04:50 PM

Can you imagine watching Worthy over the last few weeks and labeling him a “gadget” player?

It’s embarrassing.

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17877117)
Can you imagine watching Worthy over the last few weeks and labeling him a “gadget” player?

It’s embarrassing.

Imagine having this poor reading comprehension.


Embarrassing.

Wisconsin_Chief 12-25-2024 04:53 PM

The 1-2 of him and Rice is going to be a lot of fun to watch for a very long time.

We’re at the end of one dynasty with another one already brewing on the back burner. We are utterly ridiculous.

TheGuardian 12-25-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17877123)
The 1-2 of him and Rice is going to be a lot of fun to watch for a very long time.

We’re at the end of one dynasty with another one already brewing on the back burner. We are utterly ridiculous.

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

It's crazy!

philfree 12-25-2024 04:55 PM

This version of the Chiefs is a balanced team. Results speak volumes...

TwistedChief 12-25-2024 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17877119)
Imagine having this poor reading comprehension.


Embarrassing.

“Gadget focal.”

MahomesMagic 12-25-2024 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17877132)
“Gadget focal.”

That’s criticism of his usage not the player.


You really are slow as shit with the basic reading skills.

TwistedChief 12-25-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17877136)
That’s criticism of his usage not the player.


You really are slow as shit with the basic reading skills.

He is not being used as a gadget player, dude.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-25-2024 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17877071)
He bitched and hated that we won the SB last year bc we didn’t win it his way throwing 50 yard bombs all game. Only Chiefs fan here that was mad that we won the SB.

But he is just a kid in Hawaii that only follows this team bc of Mahomes as seen by his registration date.

A loser
A traitor
A coward

I've come to accept those people are part of CP no matter how annoying they may be. Doesn't mean they can't be shamed, tho.

Bump 12-25-2024 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17877123)
The 1-2 of him and Rice is going to be a lot of fun to watch for a very long time.

We’re at the end of one dynasty with another one already brewing on the back burner. We are utterly ridiculous.

I just hope Rice can come back from that, that was a rough injury. If he can then it's going to be awesome.

gordonelloyd 12-25-2024 07:21 PM

Really good seeing worthy usage today, although I also want one long bomb to him each game.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-25-2024 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17877431)
Really good seeing worthy usage today, although I also want one long bomb to him each game.

It’s coming, like the throw to Watson today, Mahomes wasn’t late… when he gets that thing out on time, Worthy is sure to run under one

When he’s even he’s leavin… eventually a defense is gonna get fed up with all the paper cuts we are delivering and take a risk.

-King- 12-25-2024 08:30 PM

I really don't care about deep shots. If theyre there, fine go for it. But this is what Ive been asking for all season. When they just use him like a normal WR, he's deadly and a playmaker. Early in the season I felt as if they just pigeon holed him too much as a deep threat and didn't just allow his natural abilities shine. Now defenses have no idea what's coming from him and he's a risk to make a play all over the field. He can literally be on a run play one play, a screen the next, a short pass the next, an intermediate pass the next, and a deep shot the next play. He can do it all.

dlphg9 12-25-2024 09:44 PM

He will be All Pro next year.

Hammock Parties 12-25-2024 11:05 PM

59 rec
638 yards
6 TD

20 car
104 yards
3 TD

RunKC 12-25-2024 11:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WRs that have scored more TDs than Xavier Worthy:<br><br>- Ja&#39;Marr Chase<br>- Terry McLaurin<br>- Justin Jefferson<br>- Amon-Ra St. Brown<br><br>End of list. <a href="https://t.co/UZGDeTbxty">https://t.co/UZGDeTbxty</a> <a href="https://t.co/fBqqFeVTyL">pic.twitter.com/fBqqFeVTyL</a></p>&mdash; The 33rd Team (@The33rdTeamFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1871983837598904473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RealSNR 12-26-2024 08:32 AM

Noooo how could we let the Bills get Keon Coleman!!!

staylor26 12-26-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17877830)
Noooo how could we let the Bills get Keon Coleman!!!

Speaking of which, where's PGM? :hmmm:

CasselGotPeedOn 12-26-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17877831)
Speaking of which, where's PGM? :hmmm:

He got romper'd. He started a thread there called Lounge Thread Responses, as if anyone gives a **** what that miserable shit bag thinks.

Sassy Squatch 12-26-2024 08:54 AM

Over the last three game stretch Xavier Worthy has 21 catches, 190 receiving yards, and 2 TDs. Oh, and I guess you can add in the 50 yards rushing and TD there as well.

staylor26 12-26-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17877840)
Over the last three game stretch Xavier Worthy has 21 catches, 190 receiving yards, and 2 TDs. Oh, and I guess you can add in the 50 yards rushing and TD there as well.

Borderline WR1.

smithandrew051 12-26-2024 09:22 AM

We all would’ve signed up for 750-ish total yards and 9 TDs.

Hell of a pick from a GM who somehow can’t pick WRs despite having 3 of the 4 he’s taken in the first two rounds be good picks.

Yes, Hardman was a good pick too (even if DK is obviously better).

pugsnotdrugs19 12-26-2024 09:38 AM

I told my buddy yesterday, it doesn't look exactly the same but the impact he's having is no different than Rice last year was doing for us. It might be more actually because of how threatening the speed is.

ThaVirus 12-26-2024 09:42 AM

He looks really good.

Hoping he can escape the shoe string tackles more and more as his career goes on. I’d love to add some explosion back into our offense.

Bwana 12-26-2024 09:59 AM

He's really come around and will do great things for us for years to come.

Bl00dyBizkitz 12-26-2024 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17877882)
He looks really good.

Hoping he can escape the shoe string tackles more and more as his career goes on. I’d love to add some explosion back into our offense.

He's always one broken tackle away. I don't know if that's a strength thing or he needs to explode through the holes faster, but he's literally inches away from breaking off a long TD run.

Gary Cooper 12-26-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17877874)
I told my buddy yesterday, it doesn't look exactly the same but the impact he's having is no different than Rice last year was doing for us. It might be more actually because of how threatening the speed is.

Rice was better at YAC because of his physicality. Worthy is easier to bring down despite the speed advantage. Defenders are taking him down by his ankles.

Worthy has more help around him now than Rice last year. Rice was the only competent WR, whereas now there's Hopkins and Brown to take the pressure off. We should see continued success if all three stay healthy.

BWillie 12-26-2024 10:17 AM

I don't really see him beating coverage like Rice beat coverage but the coaches are now utilizing him in a way we can use his speed on more than just deep routes.

JPH83 12-26-2024 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper (Post 17877923)
Rice was better at YAC because of his physicality. Worthy is easier to bring down despite the speed advantage. Defenders are taking him down by his ankles.

Worthy has more help around him now than Rice last year. Rice was the only competent WR, whereas now there's Hopkins and Brown to take the pressure off. We should see continued success if all three stay healthy.

Yeah I agree. Rice was at.a different level with less of a supporting cast. Keep Holywood next year though and it's a pretty exciting triumvirate. Would love to get Brown back on a similar deal but it already feels a fantasy.

philfree 12-26-2024 01:26 PM

I'd like to hear Worthy's explanation of the gesture he made? Was he really showing his make-believe gun or was there another meaning?

suzzer99 12-26-2024 01:28 PM

Hard to imagine another meaning for that.

Deberg_1990 12-26-2024 01:31 PM

Very similar stats to Tyreek Hills rookie year.

Although Tyreek probably had more touches because of punt and kicking returns.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-26-2024 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17877926)
I don't really see him beating coverage like Rice beat coverage but the coaches are now utilizing him in a way we can use his speed on more than just deep routes.

I'd say they're opposites in that Worthy is destroying man coverage lately, while Rice last year was killing zone.

Rice only started beating man at intermediate to deep levels really to start this season. They just weren't using him like that in 2023.

Makes you dream about what they could be with both guys out there with more than a year in the system. Worthy ran that out-up-comeback double move route against the Texans that Tyreek made famous and he beat Stingley bad doing it. Mahomes just didn't get it out to him on time and that's something they'll have down by 2025.

staylor26 12-26-2024 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17878168)
I'd say they're opposites in that Worthy is destroying man coverage lately, while Rice last year was killing zone.

Rice only started beating man at intermediate to deep levels really to start this season. They just weren't using him like that in 2023.

Makes you dream about what they could be with both guys out there with more than a year in the system. Worthy ran that out-up-comeback double move route against the Texans that Tyreek made famous and he beat Stingley bad doing it. Mahomes just didn't get it out to him on time and that's something they'll have down by 2025.

Exactly. BWillie is a ****ing clueless moron.

ThyKingdomCome15 12-27-2024 02:32 AM

Through 16 games of Worthy's rookie year his stat line reads...

52 receptions
788 yards
6 TD's

Wait... that's actually Torry Holt in 99. Not saying they're the same kind of player but it's pretty amazing what he's done considering the multitude of plays left on the field. There are many.

Basileus777 12-27-2024 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17878168)
I'd say they're opposites in that Worthy is destroying man coverage lately, while Rice last year was killing zone.

Rice only started beating man at intermediate to deep levels really to start this season. They just weren't using him like that in 2023.

Makes you dream about what they could be with both guys out there with more than a year in the system. Worthy ran that out-up-comeback double move route against the Texans that Tyreek made famous and he beat Stingley bad doing it. Mahomes just didn't get it out to him on time and that's something they'll have down by 2025.

Yep, Rice in his rookie year was a big slot zone buster. He was doing more this year, but alas the injury. Worthy and Brown are here to beat the man coverage teams have been playing against the Chiefs these past two seasons.

JPH83 12-27-2024 04:37 AM

Man I really hope Rice comes back at the level he was reaching before injury, and we find a way to bring Holywood back. If Hopkins made it back that quartet is about as good as it gets.

O.city 12-27-2024 08:52 AM

I'm grudgingly changing my tune on Hollywood. They need to bring him back and just hope he can stay healthy.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-27-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17878989)
I'm grudgingly changing my tune on Hollywood. They need to bring him back and just hope he can stay healthy.

It's a no brainer with our cap constraints.

Already knows the offense, already an established chemistry with Mahomes. If you can bring him back on a similar deal, you've got three legit proven WRs in this offense that cost you probably $10M or less in 2025.

O.city 12-27-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17878992)
It's a no brainer with our cap constraints.

Already knows the offense, already an established chemistry with Mahomes. If you can bring him back on a similar deal, you've got three legit proven WRs in this offense that cost you probably $10M or less in 2025.

I'd try to do it for more than a year though.

pugsnotdrugs19 12-27-2024 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17878994)
I'd try to do it for more than a year though.

Sure, I just don't know that he would sign up for it. And the injury history does give you some pause there.

Kiimo 12-27-2024 11:59 AM

I haven't been paying attention but what are the odds DHop comes back next season?

RunKC 12-27-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17878997)
Sure, I just don't know that he would sign up for it. And the injury history does give you some pause there.

I’d offer him the MVS/Reid 3 year special. Adjusted with inflation it could be a $15 or so million APY deal with a nice signing bonus payday the moment he puts pen to paper.

We can definitely do that

DJ's left nut 12-27-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17877830)
Noooo how could we let the Bills get Keon Coleman!!!

Wait - did anyone really say that?

I mean I wasn't even loudly on the Xavier Worthy bandwagon (my memory is that I wanted DeJean when the pick came up) and I never for one second bemoaned taking him over Coleman.

There are people who are fans of this team, who have watched this team play, and thought that Keon Coleman was the guy to have on the roster over Worthy?

That's...odd.

Deberg_1990 12-27-2024 12:18 PM

Does Coleman look like a bust? Seems like he’s had some decent games this year?

He may yet turn out ok? Just not as dynamic as Worthy.

But I do not understand why the Bills still trade with us??

DJ's left nut 12-27-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 17879291)
Does Coleman look like a bust? Seems like he’s had some decent games this year?

He may yet turn out ok? Just not as dynamic as Worthy.

But I do not understand why the Bills still trade with us??

He's maxed, IMO.

He might get a little better, but the player that Deandre Hopkins is right now is Coleman's ceiling.

He might develop into a top 50ish WR in the league. Maybe. Which isn't to say that he's a bust, just that he's no real loss. And he doesn't bring a skill-set that's all that hard to find.

BWillie 12-27-2024 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17879271)
Wait - did anyone really say that?

I mean I wasn't even loudly on the Xavier Worthy bandwagon (my memory is that I wanted DeJean when the pick came up) and I never for one second bemoaned taking him over Coleman.

There are people who are fans of this team, who have watched this team play, and thought that Keon Coleman was the guy to have on the roster over Worthy?

That's...odd.

I never wanted Coleman for the Chiefs and I've said as much but I've liked him as a prospect ever since he had the best gauntlet score. He doesn't really fit how we play, he's more of a Bengals style WR. Seems like he's doing just fine. The next guy I LOVED was Ladd McConkey because he had the next best gauntlet score. That guy looks like he would be tailor made for this offense.

I like Worthy alot. He is like Mecole Hardman on steroids. Maybe the next DeSean Jackson but he's probably got 200-250 of his yards on just quick outs where we just throw in the ball right away because the DB is giving him a big cushion due to his speed. That is useful obviously and speed is his #1 ally but as a 3rd down reliable move the chains guy like Rice, DHop, and Tyreek he just isn't there yet (like duh obviously) but he's been very promising.

Sassy Squatch 12-27-2024 12:28 PM

He's pretty close to dead last in terms of separation. That's just not going to fly in this offense.

staylor26 12-27-2024 12:33 PM

Coleman is the new Gabriel Davis.

Kiimo 12-27-2024 12:50 PM

Coleman is kind of like Drake London. His lack of separation would be a problem if he wasn't so good at getting contested catches.

I'd much rather have Worthy and I feel we're just scratching the surface with him. If all those long bombs connected dude would be getting talked about in rookie of the year conversations (non QB of course, Daniels is insane)

RunKC 12-27-2024 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17879319)
Coleman is the new Gabriel Davis.

And we got DeSean Jackson 2.0 LMAO

staylor26 12-27-2024 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17879319)
Coleman is the new Gabriel Davis.

To clarify, he's had some big plays/days due to Allen's ability to play backyard football, but the consistency and overall play isn't there yet.


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