That was like they dropped acid before deciding how to book that entire show....

Taker squashing Cena was like WTF...ending Asuka's streak was the wrong move...and Lesnar going over was really surprising.

So stupid to have Reigns get color with those stupid hard way elbows as well...why the hell they decided to use blood in that match is beyond me.

You know what match that would've been better served in...? Gargano/Ciampa...a literal blood feud lol...

Once again NXT was the real MVP...

I thought it was a pretty decent WM for what they were given to work with.

The FU was a big deal at one time. But the moves leading up to the FU became so played out and predictable that people started to hate it.

I think it's more by their own design that Cena and Reigns have such limited movesets. Hogan, Rock, and Austin were pretty predictable and had some contrived moves as well.

At least with Austin and Rock (or at least Austin), they were capable of pulling out a bigger moveset if they needed to but stuck with the pattern because it worked. Cena is debatable, but it's certainly not working for Roman.

All those guys had believable charisma while in the ring though. Reigns little head shaking stuff is so gimmicky, and Cena is stale. He doesn't even give 100% anymore, and I'm a huge Cena fan. As a kid when I met him he was very nice to me so I've appreciated him ever since.

I'm still a little disappointed in the squash that Cena took last night. It left me with more questions than answers.

Is that how Taker finally goes out? Because there's really only so many people worth putting him up against at this point. I don't think he has anymore classic matches in the tank...

It really appeared by that match (It sucked), that WWE just wanted to send Undertaker out with a win at WM, and Cena was open to taking the fall for it.

I wish he'd just quit it and stay retired. These past 3 years of Undertaker is not how we should remember him. I want to remember him for his classics like vs Triple H or Shawn Michaels.

The Taker match wouldn't have happened if they could stop booking themselves into a hole.

They knew his match with Roman last year was shit as soon as it ended and have spent the last year trying to repair that. He'll get his ring next year and **** off into retirement.

It did kind of make sense though. Cena talked all that shit and when Undertaker finally showed up he got shellshocked and choked.

They've legit ****ed up just about every way they could with Reigns. The biggest pop he's ever gotten on his own merit was when he went nuts on Vince Mcmahon and that stupid stable Sheamus led in Philadelphia and won the title. They turned around and had him cut those dumbass goofy promos the very next week.

It really shouldn't have been this hard to get him over, but I think it's too late now. They were downright apathetic towards that match until Lesnar won and shocked them.

I think they really screwed up when he came out on RAW the night after last year's WM and had unbelievable nuclear heat...they should've just turned him there and went with it.

No one wants to admit it but most of the popular guys all have contrived moves....for me the guys who don't these days like Styles are fun to watch. But I still like watching Cena in the ring just as much for his Mike work as anything.

I just don't get all the hate that is generated towards Cena...all he has done this past 10 years is be a company guy and never disappeared even when he was doing movies. (Yes that was a little shot at the Rock).

I understand the heat towards Reigns...he deserves it.

Most of the hate is over his booking, but lets not overcorrect by rewriting history when giving Cena proper credit.

I wasn’t around in the thread when it happened but I think the Nakamura heel turn could be a great thing for him.

I believe we will know Tuesday night.

It looked pretty promising based on his mannerisms when he was putting the boots to AJ. He does that type of shit to Bryan and the crowd will hate him.

Only thing that sucks is they're almost going to have to change his entrance. Easily could make that part of the storyline.

Maybe he just changes some of his mannerisms, something to that degree. I’ve generally enjoyed SD Live more since than the brand split, but now I’m not sure it’ll be close.

I guess things could change if the shakeup involves a ton of change, but as of right now there is a ton of promise on SD for potential feuds.

I don't know, man. That entrance is so ****ing over. Unless he uses it to berate the audience for singing along, it'll be hard to be an effective heel with that. It's like Bobby Roode and Glorious when he turns heel.

Obviously you've got Owens and Zayn to Raw, and I'd put Miz on Smackdown to finish up that storyline with Daniel Bryan. Outside of that, who knows what they do. If Nakamura isn't an effective heel, they've got nobody on that side currently who's really all that good. I'd say Samoa Joe, but it seems like he's the guy for Reigns to feud with during the Spring.

Sounds like Brock and Vince had a verbal fight backstage. Probably a work but who knows with those 2 crazy bastards.

Something about the ending not going the way Vince wanted it lol. Idk, but I can't stand Lesnar. I wish he'd just be done with WWE entirely.

No, it was actually Lesnar who was ****ing pissed. Yeah, he needs to go now. I'm willing to bet that Lesnar and Heyman come out tonight to run down the roster and someone like Bryan or maybe Lashley comes out and wins the belt.

I hope so. Lesnar needs to drop it immediately to somebody.

I kinda wish they would send Rollins to SD and insert him into the main event picture as a heel. Obviously not happening though unless Mahal goes to RAW.

I think it is dictated by creative too. If you ever watch videos of Hogan working in Japan, it's like watching a different person. Austin in WCW, and in his earlier days in WWE was less limited in his moveset too. Part of Austin's limited move set as time went on was dictated by creative, the rest was dictated by injury.

Shinsuke should be much better as a heel.

Lot of potential names... As mentioned Sami and KO. Also have (at least) Drew McIntyre, Cien Almas, Ember Moon and AoP looking finished with NXT. Have Joe, Jeff Hardy and Colin Cassady (no longer Big Cass) returning from injury. Have Bobby Lashley and potentially Alberto Del Rio (though he may be under a no compete for two more weeks) returning. Jericho may show up at some point leading up to the Greatest Royal Rumble.

That's just off the top of my head. Obviously some have to go blue side.

Lashley has been the rumor for months.

No way on earth they ever put Bryan in a ring with Lesnar, not with imapct testing required after every match.

No way they should bring back Del Rio. That dude is toxic.

I don't disagree, but it's a recent rumor and then Impact released him last week.

Keep in mind they need 50 bodies for that Rumble...

Didn't del Rio just no show the impact lucha show on Friday ?

So Lesnar re-signed with WWE. Wooo more Roman vs Lesnar coming SOON.

Greatest Royal Rumble in a cage match.

LMAO They can't get the reaction they want over here, so just take the coronation to Saudi Arabia.

Company is beyond ****ing clueless....

I mean a guy loses a match for the title, isn't it at that point somebody elses turn to be given a shot to take down the champion?

I'm just so tired of Lesnar and Roman.

They're not clueless. They just don't care. They tried to name a battle royale aimed at celebrating equality for women in the profession after a scumbag who set her peers back decades and was known for stealing money from and whoring out her girls. They named their annual philanthropist award given to kids dying of terminal diseases after a guy who wished another wrestler would hurry up and die from his cancer. They had Finn Balor enter last night with members of the LGBT community in a message of acceptance and now they're headed over to a country that sentences gay and lesbian people to either a lifetime of torture or death.

So Lesnar is signed for 1 more match. Vince called an audible during the match because of the crowd reception and will have Brock drop the title to Roman in Saudi Arabia in the hopes he'll get the crowd reaction he wants, and to give the show a big moment. LMAO So ****ing pathetic.

Vince is so unbelievably tone deaf.

Not to mention having this show in the middle of a women's wrestling boom in a country where none of the women can compete.

Nevermind their absolutely atrocious records on human rights. Also have 10 years of this shit. Get ready for Wrestlemania to be used to build up the Saudi Arabia show so Vince can get some of that sweet, sweet blood money.

Welp, this is pretty interesting...

Spoilers for tonight.

More hyped for Lucha Underground season 4 than anything WWE has done in years.

Superstar Shakeup ad was played during the taping of Main Event. Wonder if it's tonight?

I'd honestly forgotten about No Way Jose.

Already ditching their manager? Holy shit creative is stupid sometimes.

Crowd went silent during their debut as well. That's probably the worst start I've ever seen on the main roster.

LMAO Well, they succeeded in getting Lesnar hated, I guess.

Is that Chinese dude front row by the ramp creeping anyone else out

Ellering hates to travel, I guess. That's the reason.

Samoa Joe got a bit of a pop tonight.

Joe is so ****ing awesome.

Well that sucks for AOP. They’re destined to fizzle out without him.

So who's left for Smackdown? They're blowing their load all in 1 night.

I might be the only one, but I think the pairing of Woken Matt Hardy and Bray Wyatt has potential to be VERY entertaining...if creative doesn't screw it up.

It's already entertaining as all ****.

True...but it could get even better :D

Oops..Korean

Big Cass, Almas, Sanity, Iconic Duo?

El Generico

Also lol @ WWE trying to be meta by having Roman whine about getting a bunch of title shots. WELL GEE GUYS IT'S A REAL HASSLE MAKING MONEY AND BEING FAMOUS

Ember Moon is going to have to get a new finisher on the main roster, as neat as that looks and all doing a top rope stunner is going to leave her in a wheelchair by 45 if she does that 4-5 times a week.

I just don't think you can compress your spine that often without serious consequence, she should only bust it out a few times a year.

Loved Joe coming out like he did. Just perfect.

Not sure how well Lashley is going to work. Because he can't talk for shit. Works great, but you gotta talk for Vince to push you. Not sure how they'll handle that.

The Braun thing was ****ing stupid. I get the cheap pop both nights, but moving the titles for a day just makes that division look so weak.

Wyatt's gear needs to look more woken, somehow. And if this is just leading to him turning on Matt, it's a total waste. Creative needs to do more than that.

They needed something better to end the show.

Otherwise, pretty good night, although I didn't think it was up to the level of past night after Raw's. Actually think Smackdown tonight might be better.

Lashley improved in TNA. He's actually great in a cocky dick heel role.

Does nothing for me....maybe I have watched him for so long that the angry Joe act is getting old.

For those that have the network, if you haven't watched NXT Takeover New Orleans, you need to. It absolutely blew away Wrestlemania in terms of in-ring product, as expected. The 6-man ladder match was amazing and a complete train wreck in a good way. The title match was extremely solid between Almas and Black. The Gargano/Ciammpa match might end up being match of the year in any promotion. It was an old-school blowoff to a blood feud and expertly pulled off.

Angry Joe? That was cocky joe.

Yeah, I meant to post about Takeover on Sunday. It wasn't the best takeover, but it had some really great stuff. Loved, loved, loved the ladder match, and, yeah, the Gargano/Ciampa match just ruled.

Agree to disagree, I guess. He stole the show when he had promo time with Reigns and Lesnar, and he hasn't missed a beat as far as I'm concerned.

I get that people want to hate him because he was overused and never a heel after his original turn. But basically he was the only guy who hung around....now he will never bring the audience to the level that Austin and The Rock can just by showing up. But he has, at times, been the only guy who could set off the crowd....good and bad....all at the same time.

I grow tired of seeing Triple H....who should have retired and hung up his tights long ago. He could still do wonders as the new Corporate bad guy and never wrestle and still achieve the attention he wants.

And for all the Nakamura fans....I just can't get into the version of him they have in WWE.

Also...when are we going to see a Styles/Roode feud?

Angry Joe...cocky Joe it still looked stale to me.

That's ok with me....we don't have to agree that's what makes wrestling fun to chat about.

One man's superstar is another man's "meh".

Now I think we all agree the attempt to make us adore Reigns no matter the cost is wearing thin.

I'd love to see Joe/Lesnar 2. Much rather see than than Reigns in a cage.

Formation of a chaos 2.0 would be the best possible thing for him. Heel turn is a perfect start to that. Actually let him do Strong Style.

Find a way to slightly repackage Bludgeon Brothers (get rid of those ****ing fake hammers and the old Wyatt Family masks) and put them with Shin, and just have the stable brutalize everyone.

Then next week, send Finn and Gallows and Anderson over to Smackdown, have them reuinite with AJ into a legit stable of winners (stop jobbing them all out all the time...), and suddenly we have Chaos versus Bullet Club, and probably the hottest action on either brand.

All In just got a bit more interesting:

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Oh shit.

6 man ladder match at NXT Takeover was produced by HBK

I would agree with you, but I think they used it to just re-boot the RAW Tag division. The Tag Eliminator gives the division a fresh start.

They could have done the exact same thing exactly the same way they're doing it now. Because The Bar is facing the team that wins said eliminator. Like they're still champions. Just with no belt.

I just think philosophically it's stupid to have one guy beat the top tag team on his own (with or without a ten year old). And then you multiply that stupidity by having him hand over the belts the next night.

I also have issues with turning the so-called monster into mister jokey fun guy, picking kids out of the crowd for matches, but that's a whole other thing. Maybe the goal there is trying to turn him into the new Cena instead of Reigns.

I just have lots of issues with that whole thing...

This is pretty awesome, from cageside seats. Newbie reactions to Wrestlemania:There's more, all quality, but I'm not gonna post it all...