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threebag 01-27-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14754112)
Sad part is, with 9 people you know someone got there late, and he felt pressure/the need to push it.

Especially with two women who were unaccompanied by men to keep them on task. Probably had to stop late for a Latte

Pushead2 01-27-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14754343)
He says they were going 3-4 mph? So perhaps they were looking to land but just couldn’t see where?

It's possible since it's a helicopter. If the pilot was trying to land though, I would imagine he would have tried to bring the aircraft further down and break through the fog.

Buehler445 01-27-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 14754320)

ROFL

Thanks for not pointing out that you have more hair than I do.

Pushead2 01-27-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14754350)
Definitely. I know all of what he’s saying but there is no way I’d be thinking about it when I heard it.

Yeah, I'd imagine that's the hindsight for him and commenting on it.

notorious 01-27-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14754362)
ROFL

Thanks for not pointing out that you have more hair than I do.

With 3 kids chipping at each other constantly, I will probably pass you in that category, too.

Buehler445 01-27-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushead2 (Post 14754363)
Yeah, I'd imagine that's the hindsight for him and commenting on it.

Right. But I wouldn’t be thinking about whether or not there was rotor wash at the time to pay attention to what I saw. Or the sound. I wouldn’t have paid that much attention.

Pushead2 01-27-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14754377)
Right. But I wouldn’t be thinking about whether or not there was rotor wash at the time to pay attention to what I saw. Or the sound. I wouldn’t have paid that much attention.

If he was MX or maybe ATC, he MIGHT be paying attention to the sound, but you're most likely right.

rabblerouser 01-27-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14754343)
He says they were going 3-4 mph? So perhaps they were looking to land but just couldn’t see where?

Spatial disorientation?

Couldn't see where he was flying so was going slow to wait for clouds/smoke/smog/fog to pass before resuming normal flight?

RunKC 01-27-2020 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 14754177)
The guy is intelligent and his account is detailed.

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Hearing this makes me fear that the occupants burned to death. I pray to God that isn’t true

Megatron96 01-27-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 14754343)
He says they were going 3-4 mph? So perhaps they were looking to land but just couldn’t see where?

From the description, it sounds like he was hunting for the ground; a visual on anything on the ground. A road, a billboard, the overhead lights along a road, anything.

He had to be several hundred feet off the ground if there was no rotor wash effecting the bottom of the cloud cover, which the witness said was around 150 feet. This chopper was big if it could carry 9 people, so I'm guessing at least 300-400 feet off the deck? But surrounded on all sides by mountains/canyon walls. screw that noise.

ChiTown 01-27-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14754411)
Hearing this makes me fear that the occupants burned to death. I pray to God that isn’t true

If they were accelerating into the side of a mountain is, I'm guessing they all died upon impact.

Demonpenz 01-27-2020 02:02 PM

Wonder if he thought he was hovering whwn he was moving first.

Megatron96 01-27-2020 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 14754434)
Wonder if he thought he was hovering whwn he was moving first.

In that ship he should've had instrumentation that would tell him when he was in a hover? Probably should've had avionics that would put him in a hover at the press of a button.

Pushead2 01-27-2020 02:23 PM

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Coyote 01-27-2020 02:34 PM

Remember it’s better to be a witness then you can’t be on the mishap board.

I stil like the Mo. based TWA cap. This guy gives his view without drama. Cleaning up those type mishap sites is also no fun.


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