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There was a time when Chiefs fans were somewhat insecure about criticisms of Mahomes.

We have an entire thread about how Mahomes is better than Lamar Jackson.

I think most of us have really just moved on from the debate. Super Bowls are the only thing that really matter to Mahomes’s legacy at this point.

99.9% of QBs in history would trade their careers for his, even if he never played another down. There’s like 2, maybe 3-4 QBs who had better entire careers than what Mahomes has accomplished in his short time in the League.

Brett Favre won as many regular season MVPs as Tom Brady. The two aren’t peers though.

When a player achieves a certain level of greatness, the championships are all the matter. LeBron could win the NBA MVP this year, and it wouldn’t convince anyone that he’s better than Jordan (unless the person already believes that). Titles are the only thing that move the needle.

It’s Mahomes vs history. Not Mahomes vs Allen, or any other active QB.

It's like when someone tells a silly lie about you that has no bearing on your life at all.

Annoying. And you may occasionally slap down that person with cold, hard, unadultered truth.

But generally it's not even worth your time responding because it's so silly and settled, and you would be lowering yourself to truly engage in debate with them. You may occasionally poke and prod at them for shits and giggles, but the whole time you're secretly laughing at them on the inside.

Describes my feelings towards a certain forum here...

gordonelloyd

10-19-2024 07:38 AM

When Allan and Mahomes are both playing their A game Allen can match Mahomes. But you can count on Mahomes to play his A game when it matters and so far Allan hasn’t shown that to be the case. And he will also sometimes play so badly he can lose the game all by himself. Mahomes seldom does that. Allan hasn’t done it that much this year, so he may be improving in that area.

It’s true Allan has out played Mahomes this year and Mahomes has been uncharacteristically not up to his normal standards. But despite that he’s been there when it’s needed and we are undefeated.

All fans talk lots of gibberish to support their team. But even the most diehard bill‘s fan can’t seriously think that Allan is a better quarterback than Mahomes.

pugsnotdrugs19

10-19-2024 08:14 AM

Consuming the suffering of KingAllen and others like him is one of the absolute best parts of being on the right side of a dynasty.

Just makes people go full reerun in a way they otherwise couldn't.

KCBlitz

10-19-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17751113)

All fans talk lots of gibberish to support their team. But even the most diehard bill‘s fan can’t seriously think that Allan is a better quarterback than Mahomes.

Oh they’re dead serious about Allen being the better quarterback. In their minds the only thing separating the two is Andy Reid. They think if Allen is with KC he’d have 5 rings. Just browse through TBD at any given time. It’s truly delusional.

TambaBerry

10-19-2024 10:05 AM

I think Allen would have one at least with Reid but I also think Mahomes would have gotten Buffalo at least once if things were switched

RealSNR

10-19-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17751158)

It's all they've got.

Allen's never going to win them a Super Bowl and they know it. All they have is alt universe speculation and creating championships in Imaginationland.

The funny part is right now "Allen is king!!!!" when it was only two weeks ago when he set the record for lowest completion percentage in a game.

KCBlitz

10-19-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17751161)

I think Allen would have one at least with Reid but I also think Mahomes would have gotten Buffalo at least once if things were switched

Mahomes would have won at least 1 ring wherever he ended up in the draft. It’s the drive to succeed that separates him from most elite quarterbacks.

Rainbarrel

10-19-2024 10:36 AM

Allen gets an early start working his golf game. Do the Bills fans get mixed feelings when he yells FOUR

Lzen	10-19-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KingAllen (Post 17750115)

Cap numbers don’t win Super Bowls. Great QB’s do. And the Bills have the best one of those in the NFL.

ROFL

RedinTexas

10-19-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17751163)

Mahomes would have won at least 1 ring wherever he ended up in the draft.

Except Buffalo.

DRM08

10-19-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17751158)

Andy Reid was considered a Playoff choker until Mahomes helped him overcome that long history of Playoff disappointment. It is really interesting that people want to rewrite history as if Andy Reid had a million rings before Mahomes showed up.

FlaChief58

10-19-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17751214)

It's almost as if football is a team sport with a lot of moving parts, that all have to work together to be successful.

KCBlitz

10-19-2024 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17751214)

Mahomes’ detractors just gloss over this fact. Now Reid is the greatest coach of all time and any decent qb under tutelage would win multiple rings. It’s so ridiculous.

With the Chiefs’ defense playing better the burgeoning narrative now is Mahomes also has Spags to carry him. Anything fans, especially Bills fans, can say to not admit Mahomes is better than their qb they’re going to say it loud and proud. No matter how ludicrous.

DRM08

10-19-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaChief58 (Post 17751222)

It's almost as if football is a team sport with a lot of moving parts, that all have to work together to be successful.

Of course. But it’s not a coincidence that Belichick is unable to win without Brady. And the same thing is true with Andy & Mahomes.

Andy had two guys at QB that were drafted higher than Mahomes. There’s video footage of McNabb doing crazy athletic stuff similar to Josh Allen or Mahomes. Scramble around and then launch a 60+ yard accurate ball downfield. McNabb was very talented. Eagles had an elite defense every year with Jim Johnson as the DC. But they couldn’t win rings.

Alex Smith was pretty talented as well or he would not have been a #1 overall draft pick. The Chiefs had a pretty good defense during Alex’s time and even held the Steelers to no TD’s in one of their Playoff losses with Alex. Mahomes has helped wash away some of these problems for Andy. Just like Brady helped wash away problems for Belichick.

KCBlitz

10-19-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17751202)

Except Buffalo.

I think he would’ve gotten them a ring. Too bad their front office don’t have the foresight to draft a Mahomes.

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